what's up with the late flags?

[PatsFaninAZ]

You must have missed a couple of superbowls in the not so distant past. Or the Hoculi debaucle. And those are just ones even the media focused on. Generally no one but disgruntled fans have until now.

Every official is going to make mistakes. Can current officials do better? Sure.

Can the present replacements do better than the regulars? No way.

 

[ThatllMoveTheChains!!!]

i used to mind this, but thinking about it some more its really not so bad

throwing the flag immediately and then figuring out if it was indeed a penalty or what penalty it was is stupid, if a ref thinks a couple of secs about the play, and decides that a penalty did happen, and which happened (which honestly does take a second or two) then im happy

i dont agree that it is always due to sideline/crowd reaction, the reaction is always there

The true issue is allowing players and coaches to argue calls. The flag motion or any other shenanigans trying to show up the ref should result in 15yds. They should be limited to asking the official what they saw that made them call/not call something and that's it.

 

[Patsrock]

Different situation. This is a bad mistake by the R, who is in charge of keeping time outs, regardless of what it says in the stadium. Clearly in this situation, whatever caused the R to think only 2 not 3 time outs had been called was something that nobody caught -- the Ravens actually thought there was a third time out, because they ran a play instead of kneeling on the ball. It seems pretty clear there was some confusion in the stadium on that day.

Yesterday was a pretty fundamental case of poor rules execution, with not one member of the 7 member crew knowing the rule, which made for it to be corrected 2 minutes later. This is much different. They actually announced in the stadium that the third time out had been charged -- for all we know, the Cardinals played accordingly (playing pass defense because they know it's too risky for the Seahawks to run with no time outs).

It doesn't matter. A 4th timeout was issued and it should not have been. The officials still screwed up. If you going to call the replacement officials out for the same thing, you have to call out the locked out guys too.

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

It doesn't matter. A 4th timeout was issued and it should not have been. The officials still screwed up. If you going to call the replacement officials out for the same thing, you have to call out the locked out guys too.

Again (and for the last time), I'm calling out the replacement officials for not knowing the rules (like calling the 2 minute warning when the POA is pending), not for judgment errors, which are made by every official at every level.

 

[Patsrock]

Again (and for the last time), I'm calling out the replacement officials for not knowing the rules (like calling the 2 minute warning when the POA is pending), not for judgment errors, which are made by every official at every level.

And the time out was screwed up just 3 season ago and that is not a judgement error. That was a screw up on the rules/