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[Huckleberry1]

Settle down old man. Don't have a coronary. Chill out bro. You take yourself and this forum way too seriously. Don't forget to take your blood pressure medication and wear your leg stockings to control varicose veins. As a fellow Pats fan, I love you man.

I’m fine, just so you know the research done on internet trolls who try to use passive aggressiveness to agitate overwhelmingly show that they are mentally ill, so I need to keep that in mind when responding to you. I should give you sympathy instead. So go get some help Venecol, as you clearly need it.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Using the troll logic being applied in this thread whomever is calling plays for the highest scoring offense in the NFL “ SUCKS,” and they are lucky to have a job in the league. And they are never going to succeed in the league.

 

[venecol]

Steven Belichick is 34 and he will definitely be a defensive coordinator and head coach in this league for a long time to come. He calls the defensive plays for a defense that is first in scoring defense, and yet somehow you try to label him as a failure. So back it up, where is the evidence to support your claim that he sucks ? So far all you have done is spew sh.t, but then again that’s all you can do because the facts show that is doing a good job. Come back with some facts next time.

So you believe that Little Steven is the best Defensive Coordinator in the NFL.

Good talk.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Settle down old man. Don't have a coronary. Chill out bro. You take yourself and this forum way too seriously. Don't forget to take your blood pressure medication and wear your leg stockings to control varicose veins. As a fellow Pats fan, I love you man.

Don’t you guys have a big game this week? Or are the Bucs locked in to their playoff spot.

 

[Huckleberry1]

So you believe that Little Steven is the best Defensive Coordinator in the NFL.

Good talk.

I believe he’s doing a really good job, and if they had the worst scoring defense I would say he’s doing a bad job.

You on the other hand want to claim he’s doing a terrible job when the facts show the opposite of what you claim.

 

[Huckleberry1]

So you believe that Little Steven is the best Defensive Coordinator in the NFL.

Good talk.

In other news, Jonathan Taylor is a really bad RB, and Justin Jefferson sucks too. Don’t be fooled by the numbers, or their play, they are just lucky to have a job.

 

[Biffins]

BS. Just plain BS. Did Bill give his kids a help in getting in the door. Sure he did. But you seem to ignore the obvious by selective memory. Steve's rise in the organization came with EVERY chance to fail. He didn't just appear on the Pats sideline one day. He spend 4 full seasons as a coaching assistant learning everything from breaking down film to getting the coffee. At every step between being gofer and a position coach, he has had to be able to DO the job. He had to gain the respect of the players as well as his dad. He has had to follow the same path as McDaniels, Patricia, Flores, etc.

And, after following BB for the past 20 years, do you REALLY honestly believe that if Steve didn't have an aptitude to coach in the NFL, he'd have a job here?? He's been doing this for NINE freakin' years. THis hasn't been a meteoric rise. This has been more like like a long trek that has many more miles to go. In every area he's taken from coaching DB's to LB's he's HAD success. Now he's calling the defensive play calls. It's not a huge responsibility since whatever is called will often be changed by a formation, motion, or personnel grouping. This is still a cooperative group effort to coordinate the defense.

He's an easy target for those here looking for low hanging fruit. Kind of sad, but understandable. There ARE some very lazy people here.

You’re right. My bad. The best person in the whole world to run our defense just happens to be the HC’s son. He is obviously the most capable person we can hire. There’s noone better.

 

[venecol]

I believe he’s doing a really good job, and if they had the worst scoring defense I would say he’s doing a bad job.

You on the other hand want to claim he’s doing a terrible job when the facts show the opposite of what you claim.

First off, you're the only one that continues to repeat that Little Steven is doing a terrible job. Find where I said that and I'll eat my words. My only issue with Little Steven is the nepotism going on which I think is holding the team back from acquiring better talent.

Now, let's look at the numbers, shall we?

Pats played 6 games against teams ranked top 10 scoring offense, losing 4 & allowing 24.7 ppg (making them #22 scoring defense).
Pats played 3 games against teams ranked between 11-20 scoring offense, losing 1 & allowing 16.0 ppg (pretty good).
Pats played 6 games against teams ranked between 21-32 scoring offense, losing 1 & allowing 10.7 ppg (excellent).

Yea, I know. I'm just trolling. Blah, blah blah

 

[Huckleberry1]

First off, you're the only one that continues to repeat that Little Steven is doing a terrible job. Find where I said that and I'll eat my words. My only issue with Little Steven is the nepotism going on which I think is holding the team back from acquiring better talent.

Now, let's look at the numbers, shall we?

Pats played 6 games against teams ranked top 10 scoring offense, losing 4 & allowing 24.7 ppg (making them #22 scoring defense).
Pats played 3 games against teams ranked between 11-20 scoring offense, losing 1 & allowing 16.0 ppg (pretty good).
Pats played 6 games against teams ranked between 21-32 scoring offense, losing 1 & allowing 10.7 ppg (excellent).

Yea, I know. I'm just trolling. Blah, blah blah

Put those numbers up against any other top defense and you will get the same results. Great offenses score more against great defenses than bad offenses do, that’s what makes them great offenses. And the Patriots have still been the best scoring defense this season, so Steven Belichick is doing a good job. Your problem is that he’s Belichick’s son, and you hate Belichick. If Mayo was calling the plays you wouldn’t have said a word. You haven’t made any argument about scheme, play calling, or who is playing or not, simply that he’s Belichick’s son.

 

[Huckleberry1]

First off, you're the only one that continues to repeat that Little Steven is doing a terrible job. Find where I said that and I'll eat my words. My only issue with Little Steven is the nepotism going on which I think is holding the team back from acquiring better talent.

Now, let's look at the numbers, shall we?

Pats played 6 games against teams ranked top 10 scoring offense, losing 4 & allowing 24.7 ppg (making them #22 scoring defense).
Pats played 3 games against teams ranked between 11-20 scoring offense, losing 1 & allowing 16.0 ppg (pretty good).
Pats played 6 games against teams ranked between 21-32 scoring offense, losing 1 & allowing 10.7 ppg (excellent).

Yea, I know. I'm just trolling. Blah, blah blah

Bulsh.t. You are the one who claimed the problem with the Patriots was nepotism, and posted a meme of Steven Belichick. That was trolling , and you know it. You then threw a temper tantrum about “ Little Steven “ claiming no one would want him as a coach, with absolutely no way of knowing that at all, and the coaches who get top jobs are almost always those with the top units. Steven Belichick is a good young coach who is doing a good job, I know that upsets you but it’s the truth. I’m sorry they are having such a good season as well. I know you said they were going to be losers, but at least Patriot fans can be happy about the season.

Goid luck to your Bucs, if the Patriots don’t win I would love to see Brady get #8 before he retires, which will probably be after this season.

 

[catent]

There's going to be several HC vacancies next season and interviews have already started. Several DC are being considered. How many teams do you think will consider Little Steven for a HC position? Forget HC. How many teams would consider Little Steven for a DC position? If you're being honest and not a totally blind Homer, you'd admit the answer is NONE. You know why? Because he's got ZERO street cred. He's basically Daddies little helper. Little Steven brings nothing to the DC position: no new ideas or schemes, no creativity. At least Mayo played the game at a high level and has natural instincts that Little Steven will never achieve. Little Steven is a waste of space and an embarrassment on national TV. He's also not respected by the players or lacks the connection necessary to inspire them.

"How many teams do you think will consider Little Steven for a HC position? Forget HC. How many teams would consider Little Steven for a DC position? If you're being honest and not a totally blind Homer, you'd admit the answer is NONE"

How do you know this?
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"Little Steven brings nothing to the DC position: no new ideas or schemes, no creativity ... He's also not respected by the players or lacks the connection necessary to inspire them"

How do you know this?
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"He's basically Daddies little helper ... Little Steven is a waste of space and an embarrassment on national TV"

You're better than these mean-spirited, dreckish soundbites.

 

[catent]

I don't know how Steve is performing in his role, I don't know internally how the team feels about him, I'm not sure if placing someone else in his role would result in a better outcome. Dean Pees is a good example that not every recognizable name necessarily brings success. I do, however, feel a bit uncomfortable with the optics and agree with the sentiment that it would've been a good idea for Steve to have learned under Bill and then been setup with a coaching gig elsewhere, independent of the team, rather than move-up internally within the Patriots organization. At the same time, I trust Bill's judgment and would like to think if he felt Steve was negatively impacting the team in his role, Bill would address that.

What I think is completely out-of-bounds, regardless of how you feel about Steve being the DC, is belittling, insulting, and shaming the guy without any knowledge of what actually happens internally. You better have a darn good reason to call someone a "waste of space" because that's a very harsh phrase. If it turns out the guy is actually competent and has worked hard to improve at his job, saying he brings nothing to the table, that he isn't respected, that he's completely useless, etc, is really unfair to the guy. Imagine someone who has absolutely zero idea of the work/time you've invested at your job saying that you're useless, haven't earned anything, so forth ... that'd be pretty rough stuff.

I'd like to think this forum is better than the clickbaity, dreckish, modern-media soundbites we've seen in this thread. There's a legitimate conversation to be had here but it doesn't belong anywhere near there.

 

[Triumph]

BB should have let his kids go and earn their credentials at other teams. He should have done it a while ago. He can make intro and get them a job but then it’s up to them to succeed.

Look at what Mike Shanahan did. Or Jack Harbaugh with his kids. Ultimately you need to let the kids try and make it on their own. The nepotism at the Patriots should be unacceptable. Kraft needs to clamp down on it.

Where do you think Bill got the idea?

 

[patfanken]

You’re right. My bad. The best person in the whole world to run our defense just happens to be the HC’s son. He is obviously the most capable person we can hire. There’s noone better.

the fact that you believe that Steve "runs our defense" shows how delusional you are about this particular topic. But you DID do a good job of showing us how SARCASM is used.

 

[Triumph]

the fact that you believe that Steve "runs our defense" shows how delusional you are about this particular topic. But you DID do a good job of showing us how SARCASM is used.

Bill Belichick finally reveals who is calling the Patriots' defensive plays

New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick has shrouded mystery over the team's defensive play-caller ever since Brian Flores left the team after 2018. But Belichick let it slip after the Patriots' Week 12 win over the Arizona Cardinals. He said Steve Belichick made…

patriotswire.usatoday.com

 

[Triumph]

Steve Belichick is calling the defense and he is allowed latitude to pick the schemes.

How can anyone who watches the Patriots religiously not see who is the de facto Pats DC?

Belichick credits son Steve for role in slowing down Tom Brady

Bill Belichick praised his son, Patriots outside linebackers coach Steve Belichick, for making life difficult for Tom Brady in Sunday night’s Patriots-Buccaneers showdown.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Triumph]

2 seasons in succession the Pats high flying defense craps the bed.

Sure, they will smoke the Jags, but who knows how the Miami game will go.

 

[RobertWeathers]

2 seasons in succession the Pats high flying defense craps the bed.

Sure, they will smoke the Jags, but who knows how the Miami game will go.

It was high flying last year?

 

[Triumph]

It was high flying last year?

Booger Men

 

[RobertWeathers]

Booger Men

That was 2019.