What offense is truly dangerous

[pherein]

GB and SF have the top 2 take aways or turnovers for the season. But do their numbers on defense really show how good the offense is , or is their offense a product of the defensive turn overs?
An offense starting on there own 20 is way different than an offense starting after a turnover on the other teams 20-40.
This is interesting to me because, what if you face a Brady and they have ball control, and you can't count on a turn over.
GB would have lost the game to the giants, if not for a pick 6. Is turn overs GB's weakness. Granted many games are decided by turn overs. But my question is if you take the defense out of it, and forget the turn overs.
What is the best offense that can beat it down the field?
Play by play and continue a drive.

 

[jcdavey]

GB and SF have the top 2 take aways or turnovers for the season. But do their numbers on defense really show how good the offense is , or is their offense a product of the defensive turn overs?
An offense starting on there own 20 is way different than an offense starting after a turnover on the other teams 20-40.
This is interesting to me because, what if you face a Brady and they have ball control, and you can't count on a turn over.
GB would have lost the game to the giants, if not for a pick 6. Is turn overs GB's weakness. Granted many games are decided by turn overs. But my question is if you take the defense out of it, and forget the turn overs.
What is the best offense that can beat it down the field?
Play by play and continue a drive.

the packers are one of the truely dangerous offenses, they can put together long sustained drives , it's not all points off turnovers, in fact some games, they don't even punt till the 4th qtr lol

any offense can be stopped though, you just have to find the right matchup

the rams , who beat the saints, were able to stop GB and rodgers on several drives

the rams made GB punt 5 times, and new orleans punt 7 times

watch the tape and see how the rams did that to GB and NO, and then copy it lol

 

[ausbacker]

For mine there are only 3 true juggernaut offenses in the NFL; Green Bay, New England and New Orleans. Pittsburgh is fast approaching that, but their success is and always will be dictated by their defense.

The theme of 2011 seems to be your best unit has to be on their game whilst your complimentary units need to be opportunistic when those game breaking moments arise.

 

[pherein]

For mine there are only 3 true juggernaut offenses in the NFL; Green Bay, New England and New Orleans. Pittsburgh is fast approaching that, but their success is and always will be dictated by their defense.

The theme of 2011 seems to be your best unit has to be on their game whilst your complimentary units need to be opportunistic when those game breaking moments arise.

Yeah, but is GB, NE, NO really that good on offense if you discount turn overs?
no way GB wins vs Giants without pick 6 or other games, and its a battle if we don't pick 6 PM in the SB, or pick Farve in division game. Im just wondering with out the turn overs and short field. Who really is the most dangerous offense ?

 

[ausbacker]

Yeah, but is GB, NE, NO really that good on offense if you discount turn overs?
no way GB wins vs Giants without pick 6 or other games, and its a battle if we don't pick 6 PM in the SB, or pick Farve in division game. Im just wondering with out the turn overs and short field. Who really is the most dangerous offense ?

Yes, they are. These 3 teams score like it's out of fashion, turnover or no turnover. They're problematic for everyone and can win every game they're involved in.

 

[patsfan-1982]

i would say the saints the why Brees spreds the ball around and that running game it's pretty hard to stop

 

[757PatsFan]

The Saints might have the best offense in the league and if they carry that momentum into the playoffs they will be very dangerous. They have too many weapons. Sproles is a great change of pace back and is electrifying in the open field and ingram and thomas are both good too. Then pair them with their recieving game and it makes it tough for defenses to shut down all those guys. And on top of that they have one of the best offensive lines in football. I would take the Saints offense in a heartbeat.

 

[DaBronxPats14]

I'd say Saints, Packers & Steelers for obvious reasons but if our D doesn't step up EVERYONE is dangerous. I personally like our Offense best! what seperates us from those 3 is their defenses. If we had just a consistant above avg defense week in and week out we'd be undefeated. Brady does what needs to be done sometimes too much causing miscues to compensate for lack of D. Pats get everyone healthy on one page WE ARE most dangerous team in NFL.

 

[Deus Irae]

Yeah, but is GB, NE, NO really that good on offense if you discount turn overs?
no way GB wins vs Giants without pick 6 or other games, and its a battle if we don't pick 6 PM in the SB, or pick Farve in division game. Im just wondering with out the turn overs and short field. Who really is the most dangerous offense ?

The Saints and Packers are the most dangerous offenses. They are more complete than the Patriots, as they have much better weaponry at WR.

 

[DaBronxPats14]

The Saints and Packers are the most dangerous offenses. They are more complete than the Patriots, as they have much better weaponry at WR.

Agreed! WR and that's where we compensate with our 2 Tight End formation. If we had a REAL WR (Welker Excluded) and one who can stretch out field keep team's defense honest, we'd be talking about Brady breaking his own TD record couple of more wins.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

GB and SF have the top 2 take aways or turnovers for the season. But do their numbers on defense really show how good the offense is , or is their offense a product of the defensive turn overs?
An offense starting on there own 20 is way different than an offense starting after a turnover on the other teams 20-40.
This is interesting to me because, what if you face a Brady and they have ball control, and you can't count on a turn over.
GB would have lost the game to the giants, if not for a pick 6. Is turn overs GB's weakness. Granted many games are decided by turn overs. But my question is if you take the defense out of it, and forget the turn overs.
What is the best offense that can beat it down the field?
Play by play and continue a drive.

Green Bay is the most explosive but is probably the best candidate for a one game gameplan.

New Orleans is the most weaponized. Not sure how to gameplan. Can they become the most turnover prone?

Patriots create the toughest mismatches with Gronk/Hernandez.

The only thing that makes sense for New Orleans would be to go back and look at all their turnovers over the past several years and start there for an answer. making them run the ball is probably not the answer.

 

[TheComeback]

The Saints and Packers are the most dangerous offenses. They are more complete than the Patriots, as they have much better weaponry at WR.

I'd almost say the Saints over the Packers on offense. They have a much better line, and a powerful rushing attack. The Packers running game is about effective as ours, and Rodgers' mobility has covered up a lot of problems up front.

 

[TheTruth3402]

I think defense and offense work hand in hand, energizing each other.

When a defense is opportunistic and gives the offense unexpected short fields and scoring opportunities it turns the best offenses into transcendent status. Look no farther than the Packers D leading the league in turnovers this year, and what that's done for Rodgers and Co.

Yes, there is always emphasis on execution on 3rd down and in the red zone. A good O must be able to sustain drives and move the ball. That much has been a fundamental Patriots principle. But a good D makes an offense better.

The same goes for a defense. They need to know that all the pressure is not on them. They don't have to go out and hold the other team under 17 points. Or, if they do have an off game, if they give up a TD late in a close game, the offense can rally to cover things up. When the D doesn't have to play worried it is a real confidence boost, allowing the D to play a little bit looser. Look no farther than the Broncos this year.

All that being said, there are some units that are so good that it almost doesn't matter. I would point to the 2000 Ravens' D as a perfect example. 2007 Pats' O and this years' Packers and Saints O would also qualify, IMO. Those four groups I would consider "truly dangerous".

 

[PATSNUTme]

Last year the Patriots had a real high turnover ratio and that is why they finished 14-2. The most important stats are PPG, Red zone, and takeaways. Maybe not even in that order. YPG is the least meaningful of the stats.

GB does not turn the ball over and they get a lot of turnovers. I don't know how they would fare if the had a couple of turnovers more during a game then a good team they would play. But you can say that about any team.