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WHAT IF? TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT OCT 16TH JETS OVERINFLATION:

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I wonder if the Refs measured the PSI at halftime vs. the Jets if we would have lost a 1st round pick and have Brady suspended because the balls were over inflated?

The more you actually read about this, the worse the NFL looks.

Too bad people only read the headlines theses days.

Excellent point.
And Kraft would have caved and gone along "for the good of the 31"
It really irks me that I actually believe that Kraft would have done so
 
Where did u get this info?

Here's a fairly decent article that puts the texts in more context and points out the obvious flaws in Wells version:
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/wells-report-lost-text-messages

09:05:45 EDT
McNally: Tom sucks… I’m going make that next ball a f*ckin balloon.
09:07:08 EDT
Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done.
09:07:37 EDT
Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though...
09:08:07 EDT
Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn... The refs f*cked us... a few of then were at almost 16.
09:08:29 EDT
Jastremski: They didn’t recheck then after they put air in them.
09:16:31 EDT
McNally: F*ck tom… 16 is nothing… Wait till next Sunday
09:16:52 EDT
Jastremski: Omg! Spaz.

There is a 1:23 gap between the first text and the second so perhaps there are missing texts that show the change in direction of the conversation or other elements. But on face value, you have potentially missing texts and the actual participants describing the context. To construe a more nefarious meaning only comes with a pre-existing prejudiced slant.
 
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Seriously, why shouldn't that be investigated? If those balls were in the Jet's hands this is a far more clear (measurements wise) and egregious case of tampering with football PSI. But oh yeah, Patriots probably didn't make a formal complaint to the league because they aren't a bunch of crying b******.

And to address some of the other posts let's not anyone start assuming the referees, who were also stealing charity balls, are beyond reproach.

The Jest's game in question was in New England. The Jests, for all their other faults, had little control over ball prep in that game.
 
The Jest's game in question was in New England. The Jests, for all their other faults, had little control over ball prep in that game.
That's why Brady was pizzed at his own people for not getting the balls right. Perhaps it has come back to bite TB that he did not insist that the refs measure the balls at halftime (he was complaining to Jastremski during halftime). He just played with what the refs handed him. Although I can imagine that he must have said something to the refs and they just said "The balls fine just play the game" and never gave it another thought.
 
Given the inconsistencies with gauges and the very casual way in which the balls are handled and measured by the refs, another possible explanation for the 16 psi is the refs measure them and they come in low. They then pump them and don't remeasure thinking "a few pumps and we're good to go". Pats measure them the next day with a different gauge obviously and they are high. Albeit 16 psi sounds way to high but the bigger point for me is the inconsistency in measurements that appear to have occurred, the lack of understanding of Ideal Gas Law and these 2 factors mixed with a very casual procedure by the refs pre-game really needs to be addressed in overhauling the current protocols.

The thing that I've never understood with regards to the conclusions in the Wells report is for the deliberate act to occur, this would mean that Tom picks out the balls he wants to use, he and the locker room guy then have no idea what the refs have done with them (add air) but somehow Tom is relying on the locker room guy to take air out of them in a very short timeframe such that he can't possibly remeasure them and really just has to go by best guess and then Brady doesn't get to touch these until they are in play.
How could a QB who is quite particular about the balls rely on such an inaccurate and reckless way of modifying them.
 
Here's a fairly decent article that puts the texts in more context and points out the obvious flaws in Wells version:
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/wells-report-lost-text-messages

09:05:45 EDT
McNally: Tom sucks… I’m going make that next ball a f*ckin balloon.
09:07:08 EDT
Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done.
09:07:37 EDT
Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though...
09:08:07 EDT
Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn... The refs f*cked us... a few of then were at almost 16.
09:08:29 EDT
Jastremski: They didn’t recheck then after they put air in them.
09:16:31 EDT
McNally: F*ck tom… 16 is nothing… Wait till next Sunday
09:16:52 EDT
Jastremski: Omg! Spaz.

There is a 1:23 gap between the first text and the second so perhaps there are missing texts that show the change in direction of the conversation or other elements. But on face value, you have potentially missing texts and the actual participants describing the context. To construe a more nefarious meaning only comes with a pre-existing prejudiced slant.

When I read that, it seems to me Jastremski asks McNally to do the balls regularly. But when? Obviously not after the refs. And isn't this Jastremski's job?

I would interpret this as Brady/Jastremski wanting McNally to get those balls in spec in concert with the refs, and I'd bet this is how it happens.

The explanation in the Patriots' context report is pretty laughable/implausible.
 
When I read that, it seems to me Jastremski asks McNally to do the balls regularly. But when? Obviously not after the refs. And isn't this Jastremski's job?

I would interpret this as Brady/Jastremski wanting McNally to get those balls in spec in concert with the refs, and I'd bet this is how it happens.

The explanation in the Patriots' context report is pretty laughable/implausible.

I think most of the work on balls happens early in the season and they try to use the same balls for all games. But it's also reasonable to think that some balls get taken out of rotation by interceptions, trophies (guys keep balls after tds), Gronk destroying them or NFL officials stealing them to resell. So I could see that on any given week there are five balls to get ready for every game.

From an above mention article on what the Giants equipment guys do for Eli:

I want a brand new ball that feels like it’s 10 years old,” Manning said Wednesday. “You want it to feel like it’s been in your house for 10 years, where you’ve been playing Saturday afternoon games with it for a long time.

"I want it broken in but it should still have nubs on it. The process has gotten better as we’ve changed some schemes and techniques. We’ve honed in what works.”

The Skibas explained the Giants’ procedure.

? The new ball is rubbed vigorously for 45 minutes with a dark brush, which removes the wax and darkens the leather.

? Next, a wet towel is used to scour the ball until the ball’s outer surface is soaked through.
? While the ball is wet, it is brushed again.

? Then the ball is taken over to an electric spin wheel, where it undergoes another high-speed scrubbing.

At this point, the ball is put aside overnight. Then the process is repeated twice over the next couple of days.

About five days after it was removed from its box, the ball might go into the rotation of footballs used in a Giants practice. The goal is to get the new balls banged around, thrown and dropped in the grass and dirt. The players rough up the ball and sweat on it, which helps the aging.

In practice, various balls are in varying stages of being broken in — curing like a pigskin — and all the while, the Skibas are feeling the footballs, waiting to see if one might qualify for Manning’s special bag of footballs.

“You’re always looking for pearls, chasing after the perfect one,” Joe Skiba said. “Meanwhile, every ball Eli is practicing with feels very much like the game balls. So they’re candidates, too. Sometimes he’ll turn around and flip one to me and say, ‘That’s a good one.’ Sometimes, he wants me to throw a ball away, too.

“And we never let him throw a ball in a game that he hasn’t already thrown in practice and liked.”

The rate of attrition in the prized collection of game balls is significant. Receivers catch touchdown passes and keep the balls for souvenirs. Balls are intercepted and taken to the opposing sideline. And the system is not perfect. Ball boys are supposed to make sure the balls are properly rotated during changes of possession, but there are glitches.

When the Giants were at Kansas City earlier this year, safety Antrel Rolle picked off a pass and took the ball to the bench as a souvenir. It had a Giants logo on it. The Chiefs had apparently not substituted their ball when their offense came onto the field. No wonder it was intercepted.
 
I think most of the work on balls happens early in the season and they try to use the same balls for all games. But it's also reasonable to think that some balls get taken out of rotation by interceptions, trophies (guys keep balls after tds), Gronk destroying them or NFL officials stealing them to resell. So I could see that on any given week there are five balls to get ready for every game.

From an above mention article on what the Giants equipment guys do for Eli:

I want a brand new ball that feels like it’s 10 years old,” Manning said Wednesday. “You want it to feel like it’s been in your house for 10 years, where you’ve been playing Saturday afternoon games with it for a long time.

"I want it broken in but it should still have nubs on it. The process has gotten better as we’ve changed some schemes and techniques. We’ve honed in what works.”

The Skibas explained the Giants’ procedure.

? The new ball is rubbed vigorously for 45 minutes with a dark brush, which removes the wax and darkens the leather.

? Next, a wet towel is used to scour the ball until the ball’s outer surface is soaked through.
? While the ball is wet, it is brushed again.

? Then the ball is taken over to an electric spin wheel, where it undergoes another high-speed scrubbing.

At this point, the ball is put aside overnight. Then the process is repeated twice over the next couple of days.

About five days after it was removed from its box, the ball might go into the rotation of footballs used in a Giants practice. The goal is to get the new balls banged around, thrown and dropped in the grass and dirt. The players rough up the ball and sweat on it, which helps the aging.

In practice, various balls are in varying stages of being broken in — curing like a pigskin — and all the while, the Skibas are feeling the footballs, waiting to see if one might qualify for Manning’s special bag of footballs.

“You’re always looking for pearls, chasing after the perfect one,” Joe Skiba said. “Meanwhile, every ball Eli is practicing with feels very much like the game balls. So they’re candidates, too. Sometimes he’ll turn around and flip one to me and say, ‘That’s a good one.’ Sometimes, he wants me to throw a ball away, too.

“And we never let him throw a ball in a game that he hasn’t already thrown in practice and liked.”

The rate of attrition in the prized collection of game balls is significant. Receivers catch touchdown passes and keep the balls for souvenirs. Balls are intercepted and taken to the opposing sideline. And the system is not perfect. Ball boys are supposed to make sure the balls are properly rotated during changes of possession, but there are glitches.

When the Giants were at Kansas City earlier this year, safety Antrel Rolle picked off a pass and took the ball to the bench as a souvenir. It had a Giants logo on it. The Chiefs had apparently not substituted their ball when their offense came onto the field. No wonder it was intercepted.

Also remember that in cold weather or rainy games, there are 24 balls to prepare.
 

Visitor Teams prep their own balls and the NE ball boy takes them to the Refs has the checked, adjusted and then to the field for play. Any over inflation must have happened when the Refs tested and Adjusted them. So outside of taking them to the refs and then the playing field they have complete control.
 
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