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I'm surprised that some of the people posting in this thread, whose opinions I normally respect, are so utterly clueless on this one.
1. What part of he could have/should have made the catch, but Brady threw it on the wrong shoulder and made it a tough as hell catch do you guys not understand. Sure Welker is going to say he should have made it, but for a 5-9 guy that it a circus catch.
2. Welker is maning up and showing EXACTLY WHY he should be a Patriot next year and beyond, and all you guys can do is use that against him--to prove that somehow that was really the single play (if there is one) that lost us the game. Absolutely pathetic. I would expect this kind of idiocy out of Jets fans but not here.
In the Superbowl against a good defense, you better be able to throw the football deep downfield to your tight end and not underthrow it to an ancient linebacker for an interception, especially in the fourth quarter.Oh, gimme a break, he said himself he's caught that ball a thousand times before.
In the Superbowl against a good defense, I'm sorry, but you better be able to catch a ball that hits you on both hands if you want to be paid as an elite receiver.
Yes you are the only one.
Hopefully, Ocho will be able to read his impending pink slip.Irving fryar would've been a better option than Ocho. I really hope they atleast attempted to tweak his option reads and dumb them down.
i thought brady threw it where it had to be thrown
there was a giant on one side of welker, and one trailing him, so brady throws it to the shoulder where there's only one person who can possibly catch it, welker
and welker gets both hands on it and flubs it
that's on welker and he knows it
First of all, Welker had space but wasn't "wide open." There WERE three defenders within 5 or so yards of him, still not the easiest throw to make. Don't make it out like he was running free with nobody around him and Brady could have just lobbed it and Welker could have run under it.
It wasn't a good throw, but it wasn't a horrible throw either. It was a throw that did give Welker a chance to make a play. Not all throws are going to be perfect, especially with pressure. The ball got there, hit Welker in the hands and he dropped it. It wouldn't have been an easy catch, but it's one he could have and should have made. Just like it wasn't a perfect throw, but it was one Brady could have and should have made.
Neither Brady nor Welker succeeded in making the play, stop trying to blame it on one or the other. Both guys messed up.
These teams played exactly how we all should have expected them to. The breaks bounced in the Giants favor... The game came down to a few key areas, some of them individual plays. Steve Weatherford was a big part of it too, plus the Giants recovering their two fumbles.
Let's stop the witch hunts.
1.) You don't know what shoulder the ball was supposed to go to.
2.) Regardless of the shoulder question, Welker should have had the ball. It wasn't that tough a catch.
Yes he does.
See my post.
It was a very difficult catch.
No offense but it's been broken down by coaches as well as others, and that throw was a damn good throw by a quarterback who knows how to adjust his passes based on how the play unfolds. Plays are designed a certain way and quarterbacks are expected to throw it in a certain place, but plays rarely go as expected and only rookie QB's would have still thrown that pass in the agreed upon place.
The receiver is expected to make similar adjustments, and honestly I think Wes did. This wasn't an issue of Welker not being able to get to the ball. Both made adjustments.
But even if I wasn't going to go based on breakdowns then considering the amount of times Brady has done this beginning with his first Super Bowl as a 2nd year starter, considering the fact he had a 96 yard drive in the 2nd quarter and broke Joe Montana's record for pass completions in a Super Bowl, considering the fact that Welker wasn't the only one dropping good balls, but happened 3-4 times on that last drive........I have to freaking give the benefit of the doubt that Tom, was on point, not bothered by the clock pressure, while the receivers were. It was all because of the lack of time and clock pressure.
You could see them trying to run before securing the catch. That's all Welker did right there too. It wasn't that he was unable to catch it. He didn't secure the catch. Receiver fundementals 101. Same thing happened on the final drive.
Mike and Mike in the morning was just talking about it and they also broke it down. They also mentioned that players are graded after each game. That's graded as a drop. Period.
Having said that, not only was Welker's play not the play that cost us the game but people are overlooking the massive ass beating we got in field position and poor clock management that overshadow anything else that took place in this game. Neither Brady nor the receivers were really at fault.
Our execution in clock management and field position wasn't even close. We got abused on both and none of the single plays we failed to make match this. Atrocious. And it's the same exact mistake that happened during the first Giants game. Same thing that happened in the last Super Bowl.
At first I didn't understand how we could be the #2 special teams in the league and get abused so miserably by the Giants in this department. But now I do. They are as good in this as we are in passing. Their punter is freaking amazing. He's as precise in punting as Brady is in passing. Gotta give them credit. They have a very special player there.
I'm surprised there isn't much talk on the Branch drop the very next play. It also would have given the Pats a 1st down and chewed up another few minutes. Has anyone broken this pay down? I haven't seen it in slow mo, but the throw is a little behind Branch, but looked to be a drop.
Shhhhhhhh...........use your good karma and think with me ..... 'Tom, go get Lindsey'
No offense but it's been broken down by coaches as well as others, and that throw was a damn good throw by a quarterback who knows how to adjust his passes based on how the play unfolds. Plays are designed a certain way and quarterbacks are expected to throw it in a certain place, but plays rarely go as expected and only rookie QB's would have still thrown that pass in the agreed upon place.
The receiver is expected to make similar adjustments, and honestly I think Wes did. This wasn't an issue of Welker not being able to get to the ball. Both made adjustments.
In the Superbowl against a good defense, you better be able to throw the football deep downfield to your tight end and not underthrow it to an ancient linebacker for an interception, especially in the fourth quarter.