Patriots Pregame Thread Week 15 pregame: Pats @ Cardinals

[Real fan 02]

Way to negotiate ...!

We know, the team knows, the league knows.. we need talent it's no secret.

 

[borg]

Remember we are the opponent who makes other Teams feel good about themselves. The Cardinals Offense should give us hell: they have a Very Good TE - WR's and RB.

Interestingly, Harrison Jr's completion % is 52% (45/86)
While the midget QB's passing % is (68.4)

Harrison's YAC is an anemic 2.2 yds/rec

Midget QB has rushed for 444 yds and 4 TDs
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OT: Looking at Puka Nacua's stats in just 8 games....What a stud. What value.
1 drop this season.
And the eye test: Few veterans with this much game awareness / smarts and he's only in year 2.
NE chose Andrews, Ryland, Sow, Mafi in rounds 4 & 5 before Nacua was drafted in final pick of rd 5

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[archstanton543]

Interestingly, Harrison Jr's completion % is 52% (45/86)
While the midget QB's passing % is (68.4)

Harrison's YAC is an anemic 2.2 yds/rec

Midget QB has rushed for 444 yds and 4 TDs
--------------------------------------------------
OT: Looking at Puka Nacua's stats in just 8 games....What a stud. What value.
1 drop this season.
And the eye test: Few veterans with this much game awareness / smarts and he's only in year 2.
NE chose Andrews, Ryland, Sow, Mafi in rounds 4 & 5 before Nacua was drafted in final pick of rd 5

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Who is "Midget QB"?

 

[Real fan 02]

Interestingly, Harrison Jr's completion % is 52% (45/86)
While the midget QB's passing % is (68.4)

Harrison's YAC is an anemic 2.2 yds/rec

Midget QB has rushed for 444 yds and 4 TDs
--------------------------------------------------
OT: Looking at Puka Nacua's stats in just 8 games....What a stud. What value.
1 drop this season.
And the eye test: Few veterans with this much game awareness / smarts and he's only in year 2.
NE chose Andrews, Ryland, Sow, Mafi in rounds 4 & 5 before Nacua was drafted in final pick of rd 5

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The Rams defense is very good. Allen carved them up. He will have 10 TD against our defense.

 

[KCSVEN]

Arizona is one of those teams where the offense looks great against weak defenses.
Kyler is an average QB, too undersized and too inaccurate to ever be great. Elite runner that historically gives Pats fits so I expect them to look good against the Pats defense.
They drafted Harrison over Nabers which goes to the poor NFL scouting, Separation is the most important metric in wide receivers, Nabers was great at it, Harrison was not. Gonzalez will take Harrison out if they let him.

Cards defense stinks. Analyzing various Advanced metrics has Cards at 26th and the Pats at 27th.

Maye should be able to move the ball again this week which gives them a shot. When on the road the false starts and other dumb penalties have killed them, so I expect those mistakes to kill them again.

If it was at New England and not in Arizona I'd pick the Pats.
Unless Bills don't need the last game, this is probably the game left where they have half decent odds of pulling off a victory.

Cards season is over with a loss, playing at home, playing a weak defense, crowd noise, all leads to likely Cards win. Can Drake Maye overcome all that? Maybe, but I expect his supporting cast to let him down just enough.

FYI
-Arizona's offense is the LEAST penalized offense in the NFL, Patriots are 10th MOST penalized offense.
-Arizona is 3rd least penalized defense, Patriots are 4th least penalized defense.

 

[archstanton543]

FYI
-Arizona's offense is the LEAST penalized offense in the NFL, Patriots are 10th MOST penalized offense.

I find that hard to believe (I don't think you're making that up. I just find it wild that there are 9 more teams with more penalized offenses).

 

[KCSVEN]

I find that hard to believe (I don't think you're making that up. I just find it wild that there are 9 more teams with more penalized offenses).

Interestingly the Ravens offense is #1 with 105 penalties, Patriots have 88, Cards have 67
Ravens, Titans, Jets, Seahawks, Browns, Texans, Panthers, Cowboys, Packer, Patriots in that order.

Patriots 88 penalties on offense vs the opposing team's offense in same games is 71 penalties
Pats first 2 games I believe they only had 4 total on offense so that skews the # a little bit

 

[PatsFan2]

Who is "Midget QB"?

Murray arch.

 

[PatsFan2]

Arizona is one of those teams where the offense looks great against weak defenses.
Kyler is an average QB, too undersized and too inaccurate to ever be great. Elite runner that historically gives Pats fits so I expect them to look good against the Pats defense.
They drafted Harrison over Nabers which goes to the poor NFL scouting, Separation is the most important metric in wide receivers, Nabers was great at it, Harrison was not. Gonzalez will take Harrison out if they let him.

Cards defense stinks. Analyzing various Advanced metrics has Cards at 26th and the Pats at 27th.

Maye should be able to move the ball again this week which gives them a shot. When on the road the false starts and other dumb penalties have killed them, so I expect those mistakes to kill them again.

If it was at New England and not in Arizona I'd pick the Pats.
Unless Bills don't need the last game, this is probably the game left where they have half decent odds of pulling off a victory.

Cards season is over with a loss, playing at home, playing a weak defense, crowd noise, all leads to likely Cards win. Can Drake Maye overcome all that? Maybe, but I expect his supporting cast to let him down just enough.

FYI
-Arizona's offense is the LEAST penalized offense in the NFL, Patriots are 10th MOST penalized offense.
-Arizona is 3rd least penalized defense, Patriots are 4th least penalized defense.

That's why we have lost so many close games. We don't have the Talent to overcome penalties.

 

[Real fan 02]

Murray arch.

PF2 did you get a chance to see that rams/bills game? Allen was sensational.. I'd say he puts up 10 TDs on us in one game. Mighty mouse Tyler Murray will be running all over our slow defense all game

 

[PatsFan2]

Arizona is one of those teams where the offense looks great against weak defenses.
Kyler is an average QB, too undersized and too inaccurate to ever be great. Elite runner that historically gives Pats fits so I expect them to look good against the Pats defense.
They drafted Harrison over Nabers which goes to the poor NFL scouting, Separation is the most important metric in wide receivers, Nabers was great at it, Harrison was not. Gonzalez will take Harrison out if they let him.

Cards defense stinks. Analyzing various Advanced metrics has Cards at 26th and the Pats at 27th.

Maye should be able to move the ball again this week which gives them a shot. When on the road the false starts and other dumb penalties have killed them, so I expect those mistakes to kill them again.

If it was at New England and not in Arizona I'd pick the Pats.
Unless Bills don't need the last game, this is probably the game left where they have half decent odds of pulling off a victory.

Cards season is over with a loss, playing at home, playing a weak defense, crowd noise, all leads to likely Cards win. Can Drake Maye overcome all that? Maybe, but I expect his supporting cast to let him down just enough.

FYI
-Arizona's offense is the LEAST penalized offense in the NFL, Patriots are 10th MOST penalized offense.
-Arizona is 3rd least penalized defense, Patriots are 4th least penalized defense.

I remember Pre Draft M Nabers saying he was better than Harrison Jr.

 

[PatsFan2]

PF2 did you get a chance to see that rams/bills game? Allen was sensational.. I'd say he puts up 10 TDs on us in one game. Mighty mouse Tyler Murray will be running all over our slow defense all game

Yeah I saw the game let's just say like our last Playoffs game...have the Bills Punted yet?? Buffalo is looking like the Team in the AFC. KC does not look as good and it will catch up with them in the Playoffs. Buffalo and Baltimore have no excuse this year even in Arrow Head.

 

[PatsFan2]

The Rams defense is very good. Allen carved them up. He will have 10 TD against our defense.

Allen will help us to solidify the #1 or 2 overall. That's the sweet spot for T Hunter.

 

[Nunchucks]

Arizona does well what the patriots do poorly. Arizona will run all over the patriots and that will open up the passing game for them.

I expect another game where the patriots defense is MIA and the offense just isn't talented enough to do anything.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yeah I saw the game let's just say like our last Playoffs game...have the Bills Punted yet?? Buffalo is looking like the Team in the AFC. KC does not look as good and it will catch up with them in the Playoffs. Buffalo and Baltimore have no excuse this year even in Arrow Head.

Agreed... Mahomes doesn't look himself.. as great as he's been.. could it be his best years are behind him?? Brady got even better at 30 then he was at 25... Buffalo everyone on thier offense so fast.. I think KC can be had in the divisional round.

 

[Real fan 02]

Allen will help us to solidify the #1 or 2 overall. That's the sweet spot for T Hunter.

I wish it was already January I'm tired of watching this year's team. I know what Drake can do.. we know this defense is a joke.

 

[PatsFan2]

I find that hard to believe (I don't think you're making that up. I just find it wild that there are 9 more teams with more penalized offenses).

IF I had to guess I would say.

Browns
NY jets
NY Giants
Dallas
Jaxs
Tenn
Raiders
Bears
Panthers
-Patriots-

 

[Real fan 02]

IF I had to guess I would say.

Browns
NY jets
NY Giants
Dallas
Jaxs
Tenn
Raiders
Bears
Panthers
-Patriots-

Patriots are around 22nd ranked i think..

 

[PatsFan2]

Agreed... Mahomes doesn't look himself.. as great as he's been.. could it be his best years are behind him?? Brady got even better at 30 then he was at 25... Buffalo everyone on thier offense so fast.. I think KC can be had in the divisional round.

I don't think it's him it's more like his supporting cast. They lost R Rice... X Worthy is a decent Rookie both D-Hop and Kelce are long in the tooth. I think Kelce is going to retire after this year, banging Swiftie and playing football is hard work.

 

[PatsFan2]

Patriots are around 22nd ranked i think..

It's said we are ranked 10th in Offensive penalties: I think that's being kind.