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Patriots Pregame Thread We are on to Tampa Bay: AFCE vs NFCS division leaders, 2025 Week 10

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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Ugh... One of the few things I DIDN'T miss about us being the best team in the league.

I'm setting the over/under on the number of times Romo glazes Mahomes during this game at 147.5 and yes I aware he's not on either team. PLACE YOUR BETS!

KC's passing game is 10th in the league and their running game is 5th. They also have 4 losses in 9 games. I don't get the Mahomes love this year.
 
I was going through the remaining games for all the playoff teams and it's very possible that there'll be 5 or 6 AFC teams that will all finish at 12-5. The Pats could make it to 13-4 with a win against TB, Buf or Bal. I doubt they lose to Cincy, Mia, NYJ or NYG.

Denver's in the driver's seat if they can win one of their two vs KC. Then they'd only need to avoid losing two out of @Was, @LV, GB, Jac and the Bolts.

The Indiots also have a decent chance to be better than 12-5 if they can avoid losing two of their away games at KC, Sea, Jac and Hou, while only losing one of their home games, Atl, Hou, SF and Jac.

Buffalo has a tougher road with nine games remaining, including TB, @Pit, @NE and Philly, with @Mia, @Hou, Cin, @Cle and NYJ.

LC at 6-3 could only afford to lose two out of Pit, @Jac, LV, Phi, @KC, @Dal, Hou and @Den to get to 12-5.

Pitt at 5-3 is in the same kind of place as LC but with 9 games to play. They have Bal twice, Buf and @Det.

The 5-3 Jags also have 9 games remaining with the toughest being a home and away with Indy, LC and Denver.

Then there's KC, who actually could run the tableif they can get by Ind and Den at home and a road game vs Denver after an extra week's rest.

And incredibly, the Ratbirds at 3-5 could run the table if they get by Pit and NE at home and GB and Pit on the road. A real possibility
Too far away to guess. Injuries always happen, teams always lose games they should win. Week to week and see how it all shakes out.
 
I was going through the remaining games for all the playoff teams and it's very possible that there'll be 5 or 6 AFC teams that will all finish at 12-5. The Pats could make it to 13-4 with a win against TB, Buf or Bal. I doubt they lose to Cincy, Mia, NYJ or NYG.

Denver's in the driver's seat if they can win one of their two vs KC. Then they'd only need to avoid losing two out of @Was, @LV, GB, Jac and the Bolts.

The Indiots also have a decent chance to be better than 12-5 if they can avoid losing two of their away games at KC, Sea, Jac and Hou, while only losing one of their home games, Atl, Hou, SF and Jac.

Buffalo has a tougher road with nine games remaining, including TB, @Pit, @NE and Philly, with @Mia, @Hou, Cin, @Cle and NYJ.

LC at 6-3 could only afford to lose two out of Pit, @Jac, LV, Phi, @KC, @Dal, Hou and @Den to get to 12-5.

Pitt at 5-3 is in the same kind of place as LC but with 9 games to play. They have Bal twice, Buf and @Det.

The 5-3 Jags also have 9 games remaining with the toughest being a home and away with Indy, LC and Denver.

Then there's KC, who actually could run the tableif they can get by Ind and Den at home and a road game vs Denver after an extra week's rest.

And incredibly, the Ratbirds at 3-5 could run the table if they get by Pit and NE at home and GB and Pit on the road. A real possibility
KC getting lucky as hell that they get DEN and IND while they’re missing their best defensive players (Surtain and Buckner)
 

I see that Mahomes is 28th in accuracy, right behind Carson Wentz and Justin Fields. How can that be when I heard him described as one of the frontrunners for MVP?
 
KC's passing game is 10th in the league and their running game is 5th. They also have 4 losses in 9 games. I don't get the Mahomes love this year.
I don't loathe Mahomes the way some people do. I see a lot of similarities between the hate the Chiefs get and the hate we got in our run, and I didn't appreciate it then so I'd be hypocritical to do so now. I just hated the insane hype he got. I think the worst was that Monday Night game vs the Rams where each team scored like 800 points. His balls were so polished by the announcers they shined more than Peyton's massive forehead.

I feel like as a person he seems to be pretty humble and down to Earth, I just want him and his team and their wretched fan base to suffer all the worst misery football has to offer. (except injuries.)
 
Too far away to guess. Injuries always happen, teams always lose games they should win. Week to week and see how it all shakes out.
Yes, that's true, but I decided to take a closer look just for the heck of it.

I also took a shot at seeing how many teams could get to 12-5. There could be a lot of those.
 
KC getting lucky as hell that they get DEN and IND while they’re missing their best defensive players (Surtain and Buckner)
They also played most of their tougher opponents (Philly, Bal, Det) at home. They only had to travel to Buffalo and they lost that one.
 
I don't loathe Mahomes the way some people do. I see a lot of similarities between the hate the Chiefs get and the hate we got in our run, and I didn't appreciate it then so I'd be hypocritical to do so now. I just hated the insane hype he got. I think the worst was that Monday Night game vs the Rams where each team scored like 800 points. His balls were so polished by the announcers they shined more than Peyton's massive forehead.

I feel like as a person he seems to be pretty humble and down to Earth, I just want him and his team and their wretched fan base to suffer all the worst misery football has to offer. (except injuries.)
I don't loathe him either and he does come across okay.
I don't see him getting much hate, but I could be wrong and I'm just not seeing it. It's just that he's not having a very good year but still gets the hype.
 
Bucs are worse off with their 3 that are out (Irving, Godwin, Reddick) than Pats with (Rham, Boutte, Elliss)

Yes, Boutte is a huge piece of the pass game, and Williams is not ready to help. But I think the Pats are more versatile - based on newness of system and already built on a diverse offense each week where they can feature the other guys. I look for Henderson & Hollins to be featured in the pass game due to defense keying on Diggs & Henry. And I really hope they try Williams a couple deep shots.
Williams is going to be productive today.
 

Vrabel letting himself get distracted again. Everyone knows it's sacrilegious to give attention to loved ones in the sidelines before a game.
 
I was going through the remaining games for all the playoff teams and it's very possible that there'll be 5 or 6 AFC teams that will all finish at 12-5. The Pats could make it to 13-4 with a win against TB, Buf or Bal. I doubt they lose to Cincy, Mia, NYJ or NYG.

Denver's in the driver's seat if they can win one of their two vs KC. Then they'd only need to avoid losing two out of @Was, @LV, GB, Jac and the Bolts.

The Indiots also have a decent chance to be better than 12-5 if they can avoid losing two of their away games at KC, Sea, Jac and Hou, while only losing one of their home games, Atl, Hou, SF and Jac.

Buffalo has a tougher road with nine games remaining, including TB, @Pit, @NE and Philly, with @Mia, @Hou, Cin, @Cle and NYJ.

LC at 6-3 could only afford to lose two out of Pit, @Jac, LV, Phi, @KC, @Dal, Hou and @Den to get to 12-5.

Pitt at 5-3 is in the same kind of place as LC but with 9 games to play. They have Bal twice, Buf and @Det.

The 5-3 Jags also have 9 games remaining with the toughest being a home and away with Indy, LC and Denver.

Then there's KC, who actually could run the tableif they can get by Ind and Den at home and a road game vs Denver after an extra week's rest.

And incredibly, the Ratbirds at 3-5 could run the table if they get by Pit and NE at home and GB and Pit on the road. A real possibility
I think Denver has at least 4, maybe 5 losses left in them.
Indy is overrated. Daniel Jones is turning back into a pumpkin

Baltimores defense is ass. They were 1-3 with Jackson. One won against hapless Miami doesn’t make them a threat to run the table.


This is a perfect storm year where every team has flaws and there is no great team. Reminiscent of 2001.
 
Easy friend. That’s a lot of pressure to put on young Caedan !
Hard call. What’s worse playing a d being the worst player in the league, or not even being allowed to play?
Polk made the team worse, Wallace pretty much is the same as forfeiting the pick.
 
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