Watch out for the NFL* shenanigans today. Footballs will be measured during today's game

[Patsrock]

Score 12 TDs in first half and do a Carolina Panthers and give each one away

 

[venecol]

Nope. Psi can go down without the mass of the ball changing one iota if that reduction in psi comes from temperature change alone. Weight only goes down if air is removed

You're right, at the time the argument was that the ball was somehow lighter by reducing the psi by a couple of pounds. Sports Science said the weight difference was negligible (weight of a dollar bill). So they must have meant releasing air from the ball by 2 psi.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

So if Brady sits this one out and they state that the "random" testing shows tampering, do we lose JG for 4 games or would he just get a fine for an equipment violation?

Kidding btw.

I appreciate your sense of humor but I honestly don't know what to expect from the clowns running the NFL. Just when you think they can't get any slimier, they raise the bar.

 

[DaBruinz]

Ben Volin ✔ @BenVolin
An NFL official just carried three Wilson bags full of footballs into the officials locker room. Time to check the air pressure


Guarantee that we won't hear what the results are since they will exonerate the Patriots.

 

[Tony Cahncuhd]

Ben Volin ✔ @BenVolin
An NFL official just carried three Wilson bags full of footballs into the officials locker room. Time to check the air pressure


Guarantee that we won't hear what the results are since they will exonerate the Patriots.

Idiots. If they knew what they were doing, they'd check them outside first.

 

[Ross12]

Ben Volin ✔ @BenVolin
An NFL official just carried three Wilson bags full of footballs into the officials locker room. Time to check the air pressure


Guarantee that we won't hear what the results are since they will exonerate the Patriots.

Bet you they'll let them sit in the warm locker room for about 20 minutes while they wait for everyone to get their crap together, destroying the entire exercise's purpose.

 

[PP2]

Idiots. If they knew what they were doing, they'd check them outside first.

If they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have let this information leak out in advance of their testing. They're just bumbling fools at this point.

 

[DaBruinz]

Bet you they'll let them sit in the warm locker room for about 20 minutes while they wait for everyone to get their crap together, destroying the entire exercise's purpose.

well, not really.. If they let them get back to room temperature and they measure out the same, then it still vindicate's the Pats when their footballs come out to be the correct psi..

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

I'm a bit hazy on what the NFL is trying to accomplish today.

Are they trying to disprove Ideal Gas Law?

By picking a game with no temperature change, the pressure change should be minimal. The NFL can reveal the results with no pressure change and claim, " see the pressure changed in the AFCCG so therefore the Pats cheated." neglecting to mention temperature change....
You know it's coming....

 

[reflexblue]

It's all about giving them enough time to warm up. Wet takes longer. They will swap out the balls they are testing with the back up footballs.

If they really wanted to see how weather affects pressure they would test them on the sidelines during the game.

If they really wanted a game to be played with footballs at 13 psi they would inflate them on the sidelines and not in a room that is X degrees warmer or colder.

Water is a better conductor than air, so if they were looking for a fair comparison this won't be it. but of course goody and his minions aren't.

 

[TB_Helmet]

I was thinking about it, and I know we hate to hear this, but the correct way to do this from a scientific standpoint is to let the footballs warm up at halftime and then measure the PSI level. That way if it's under the 12.5 limit, you know the footballs were tampered with. You negate any effect brought on by a temperature change. That's what they SHOULD have done last January.

The Patriots should still be conducting their own measurements and broadcasting them far and wide.

 

[DaBruinz]

By picking a game with no temperature change, the pressure change should be minimal. The NFL can reveal the results with no pressure change and claim, " see the pressure changed in the AFCCG so therefore the Pats cheated." neglecting to mention temperature change....
You know it's coming....

Not if they release the fact that they let the balls get back to equilibrium before testing them. Then they would only confirm what the Patriots have said. And what scientists have said in support of the Patriots..

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

By picking a game with no temperature change, the pressure change should be minimal. The NFL can reveal the results with no pressure change and claim, " see the pressure changed in the AFCCG so therefore the Pats cheated." neglecting to mention temperature change....
You know it's coming....

I guess, but since the NFL is already being called out for junk science and fraudulent investigations, they may want to tread lightly.

 

[DaBruinz]

I was thinking about it, and I know we hate to hear this, but the correct way to do this from a scientific standpoint is to let the footballs warm up at halftime and then measure the PSI level. That way if it's under the 12.5 limit, you know the footballs were tampered with. You negate any effect brought on by a temperature change. That's what they SHOULD have done last January.

The Patriots should still be conducting their own measurements and broadcasting them far and wide.

No. The correct way to do this, from a scientific standpoint, is to measure them inside and record the data. Then measure them OUTSIDE at half-time. Then measure them inside after the game after they have reached equilibrium.

This way you get a baseline for the balls. You get a baseline of what the temperature does to the balls when they are dry, but with a 32 degree temperature delta. You get the final result of what the balls measure after having been in play and have gone through the both a negative and positive temperature delta.

Nothing they record from today's game will show that the balls were tampered with during the AFCCG. It can't because it's missing a major factor. The rain..

 

[TB_Helmet]

No. The correct way to do this, from a scientific standpoint, is to measure them inside and record the data. Then measure them OUTSIDE at half-time. Then measure them inside after the game after they have reached equilibrium.

This way you get a baseline for the balls. You get a baseline of what the temperature does to the balls when they are dry, but with a 32 degree temperature delta. You get the final result of what the balls measure after having been in play and have gone through the both a negative and positive temperature delta.

Nothing they record from today's game will show that the balls were tampered with during the AFCCG. It can't because it's missing a major factor. The rain..

Right, but the point of this (stupid) exercise, as stated by the NFL, isn't to determine the effect of weather on PSI levels. It is to make sure that no teams are tampering with footballs. The NFL absolutely doesn't want to find out what the effect of weather is on footballs, because they'd have to give us our draft picks back. There's no way they'll measure them outside in cold weather. That's why the Patriots should be doing this.

 

[jah]

The NFL absolutely doesn't want to find out what the effect of weather is on footballs, because they'd have to give us our draft picks back.

They already know and nobody would make them give the picks back.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Seems like they screwed with the K balls. Both Gost and Allen were a touch off today.

 

[RobertWeathers]

They already know and nobody would make them give the picks back.

There is hope....Christmas is coming.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

Wrong: Watch out for league shenanigans "today"

Right: Watch out for league shenanigans everyday

They are scum, period.

 

[blackglass3]

If our local media had any balls, they'd have been running these tests every week since the season started.