Tony Eason

[Brady-To-Branch]

I'm basing it on watching him play. Once he got scared of being hit, he would curl up in the fetal position as soon as he saw a defender coming towards him.

I'm basing it on watching him. I lived in the boston area at the time and probably watched every game he played since I've been a fan since the early 60's.

Since you seem to be basing your argument solely on some chicken**** statistics, explain to me how a QB goes from three seasons averaging almost 3,000 yards to being washed up in his 5th year in the league.

Tables don't display well, so why don't you pull out your little statistics page and explain how he just disappeared without a major injury?

I'm not even basing it on the SB game. I'm basing it on watching him quit his career because he was too scared to play.

Injuries cut his career short. Specifically it was an injury to Eason's throwing shoulder.

I agree, what are statistics and facts worth when compared to the ablility of going inside a man's head and know that he was "scared"?

My "little statistics page" proves that Grogan had far less success in the playoffs than Eason.

Here's some more info on Eason...

http://www.patriots.com/alumni/index.cfm?ac=alumnibiosdetail&bio=3065

...vs. Tampa Bay, in minus 25 wind chill, connected on 16 of 27 passes for 155 yards in leading NE to 10-7 OT win (NE's first OT win in the NFL);was 13 of 19 for 129 yards in 2nd half (completing first five passes)

Winning in OT. That's something Grogan never did. Eason rebounded from a separated shoulder a few gamnes earlier in that game. NFL began regular season OT in 1974. It took the Pats 14 years to win their first OT game.

 

[mgteich]

The Miami game is one the greatest moments in patriot history, yet Eason is remembered for losing to the greatest ever 1985 Bears (after our blocking TE was hurt). For pats fans he is forever "doe eyes" or the quarterback is skirts. IMHO, these characterizations are grossly unfair.

Hannah's Bear Bryant background made his standards different from those of today. I think Eason would have been better suited for today's football, and I think Hannah was wrong to tarnish Eason with such a blanket statement which I believe was exaggerated. I remember Eason torching Miami for 3 TDs in Miami in the AFFCG, a place where we hadn't won in 18 tries. How much of a ***** was he that day?

 

[italian pat patriot]

he playied not so many seasons

he dressed in the Nfl only our uniform ?

 

[Joker]

yeah...just us...and he should have dressed IN A DRESS....little Califairy QB that he was

 

[italian pat patriot]

Winning in OT. That's something Grogan never did. Eason rebounded from a separated shoulder a few gamnes earlier in that game. NFL began regular season OT in 1974. It took the Pats 14 years to win their first OT game.

credit to Tony Eason - no doubt from my side

 

[3 to be 4]

A tough one...and the fact he wished money to appear here..OR a nimber of tickets OR something like that only makes me think of him in a negative way.
He was not tough, not a winner at all and in the top 7..but I would say in the lower part.

thats bull****. i dont remember the "tough" Steve Grogan playing well in any playoff games but it was Eason that did everything asked of him in NY, LA, and Miami on the way to SB 20.
1984, 1985, and 1986 Eason gave us the best Quarterbacking we had seen up until that point. And then everybody hated him because he wasnt the sainted Doug Flutie.

Raymond Berry and Tony Eason deserve all our appreciation for bringing a Super Bowl to a region that never dared dream of one before.

 

[3 to be 4]

anyway it is a petty thet Tony Eason did not participate with all the other 1985 players at the parade @ The Razor

i think that he feels the fans does not love him


probably he was not a real football player but still i think that he playied also very good games for us and the run at our first Super Bowl was also a credit to him

well it was petty that Drew Bledsoe didnt come back for the SB rally but that doesnt make him weak and a loser.

 

[italian pat patriot]

well it was petty that Drew Bledsoe didnt come back for the SB rally but that doesnt make him weak and a loser.

i totally agree with you

 

[patfanken]

You can add my name to the list who think that Eason had a better career than most give him credit for. Few remember that in the season following the Superbowl, Eason had the best QB rating in the league. Also his proclivity to go down easily was well earned, because early in his career he got the snot knocked out of him. Few are willing to remember that in his first few years he was a pretty good scrambler. It is true however that somewhere along the line he lost his love for the game, and his career ended soon after.

I am very disappointed in Hannah's remark that HAS tarnished Eason forever IMHO. However I am not surprised by it, since I had the displeasure to know John personally from the financial services industry (which Hannah did very well, trading on his name). And from my few personal encounters with him, his arrogance boardered on being an A..hole. I also wasn't surprise that he failed miserably at being a HS HC at Somerville MA. Just another example of a great player who was unable to translate his greatness to others.

That being said, John is a deserving HOFer and the best OLman of his generation (which is my generation). But because of his bad shoulders, he was as culpable of the bad showing in Superbowl XX as Tony Eason. He plain sucked that game. A game I attended.

disclaimer: Eason's banishment and Hannah's comment are kind of pet peeves of mine. He was what he was, a good but not great QB, and one of the better ones the Pats ever had. Probably #5 on the list behind Brady, Bledsoe, Grogan, Parilli, and tied with Plunkett (who we also ran out of town, much to our discredit). He wasn't deserving of being banished to Patriots Purgatory

 

[Murphys95]

he playied not so many seasons

he dressed in the Nfl only our uniform ?

Eason actually played his final 2 years as a Jet.

And by the way, revisionist history hits every fan base - even New England's. In regards to Grogan - IMO he was by far the most criticized QB ever in New England. The fans and media just bashed him relentlessly (of course, conveniently you won't find any of those bashers now). Fans would chant for his backup, Matt Cavanaugh, over and over again during the games in the early '80's. Grogan was a pariah for many years in New England.

It's nice to hear other fans supporting Eason. No he wasn't the greatest QB, but he contributed to the Patriots...and was successful for the most part.

 

[RayClay]

Injuries cut his career short. Specifically it was an injury to Eason's throwing shoulder.

I agree, what are statistics and facts worth when compared to the ablility of going inside a man's head and know that he was "scared"?

My "little statistics page" proves that Grogan had far less success in the playoffs than Eason.

Here's some more info on Eason...



Winning in OT. That's something Grogan never did. Eason rebounded from a separated shoulder a few gamnes earlier in that game. NFL began regular season OT in 1974. It took the Pats 14 years to win their first OT game.

http://www.patriots.com/alumni/index.cfm?ac=alumnibiosdetail&bio=3065

Curious article here. Lots of quarterbacks, (probably all) play through shoulder injuries *Tom Brady?*

"Coach Raymond Berry, saying the slumping New England Patriots need a spark, benched Tony Eason as his starting quarterback yesterday and replaced him with Doug Flutie. Eason, struggling to rebound from two injury-plagued seasons, played poorly in losses to Miami and Seattle after doing well in a 27-24 season-opening victory against the Jets. Berry said Eason would be the third-string quarterback behind the 5-foot-10-inch Flutie and Steve Grogan on Sunday at Buffalo."


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE0D6123BF93BA1575AC0A96F948260

Wonder why Raymond Berry through him under the bus in this NY Times article?

He conspicuously says his benching is for a "spark" rather than for injury.

Maybe those grizzled hall of famers admire a quality he lacks.

 

[RayClay]

Injuries cut his career short. Specifically it was an injury to Eason's throwing shoulder.

Actually he had three productive seasons then played four seasons before he retired including 16 games in his final season with the Jets.

 

[3 to be 4]

Steve Grogan was not that good of a starting QB. His most effective work, IMHO, was as a backup to Eason. When he came off the bench when Eason got hurt in 1985, Grogan was great for those 6 games, but you have to wonder if he would have kept it up. Like Bledsoe, Grogan never put together a solid 16 game season.
In 1986, Grogan once again provided great moments off the bench, at home in a loss to the Jets and the great last minute win at Miami to win the division.
But he drove me nuts in the late 70's and early 80's. He couldnt complete a screen pass to save his life. How about during the collapse in 1980 when he threw 5 picks at SF?

 

[RayClay]

Steve Grogan was not that good of a starting QB. His most effective work, IMHO, was as a backup to Eason. When he came off the bench when Eason got hurt in 1985, Grogan was great for those 6 games, but you have to wonder if he would have kept it up. Like Bledsoe, Grogan never put together a solid 16 game season.
In 1986, Grogan once again provided great moments off the bench, at home in a loss to the Jets and the great last minute win at Miami to win the division.
But he drove me nuts in the late 70's and early 80's. He couldnt complete a screen pass to save his life. How about during the collapse in 1980 when he threw 5 picks at SF?

Grogan had a strong arm but didn't have very good "touch" on his passes.

 

[PonyExpress]

http://www.patriots.com/alumni/index.cfm?ac=alumnibiosdetail&bio=3065

Curious article here. Lots of quarterbacks, (probably all) play through shoulder injuries *Tom Brady?*

"Coach Raymond Berry, saying the slumping New England Patriots need a spark, benched Tony Eason as his starting quarterback yesterday and replaced him with Doug Flutie. Eason, struggling to rebound from two injury-plagued seasons, played poorly in losses to Miami and Seattle after doing well in a 27-24 season-opening victory against the Jets. Berry said Eason would be the third-string quarterback behind the 5-foot-10-inch Flutie and Steve Grogan on Sunday at Buffalo."


http://www.patriots.com/alumni/index.cfm?ac=alumnibiosdetail&bio=3065

Wonder why Raymond Berry through him under the bus in this NY Times article?

He conspicuously says his benching is for a "spark" rather than for injury.

Maybe those grizzled hall of famers admire a quality he lacks.

ray clay,
I clicked on the links and can't seem to find that quote or a NYtimes article. Another point, Eason may have appeared in all 16 games for the Jets in 1990 but he only threw 28 passes the whole season. You may be right that his shoulder problem was not as serious as some allege, but his stint with the Jets doesn't demonstrate that point. Great back and forth though...

 

[RayClay]

ray clay,
I clicked on the links and can't seem to find that quote or a NYtimes article. Another point, Eason may have appeared in all 16 games for the Jets in 1990 but he only threw 28 passes the whole season. You may be right that his shoulder problem was not as serious as some allege, but his stint with the Jets doesn't demonstrate that point. Great back and forth though...

Sorry, accidently copied link twice, it's here.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE0D6123BF93BA1575AC0A96F948260

I rated Eason #5 based on his talent and contributions. If it was talent alone, he would have been #1 or 2.

I hate to harp on something, but when somebody tells me I watched game after game of this guy after he'd given up then waited for John Hannah to make a comment before I decided what I thought of him it ticks me off.

Statistics don't matter in this case. The GAMES WERE ON TV.

He would roll up into a ball when a rusher broke free. I saw it. After his 3 good years.

I've seen Jim Miller play against us when he coudn't throw 15 yards. He hung in there, for what it's worth.

I could throw a better pass than Joe Kapp for crissakes, but no one ever questioned his guts.

 

[Joker]

Tony Eason, Darryal Wilson, Stephen Starring, Steve Moore

1st, 2nd, and 2 third round picks in THAT draft....uh, not for nothing but we could have drafted DAN MARINO, who went 12 picks later ...OR Darrell Green, who went right after Marino.

Eason was a Caliphag and belonged in a San Diego jersey...and you clowns are beating this dead horse like he was some special player...Grogan was TEN times the QB little "curled up in a girlie ball" Eason could ever hope to be. Champagne Tony...heh...what a joke....more like Ripple Phoney.

 

[italian pat patriot]

thats bull****. i dont remember the "tough" Steve Grogan playing well in any playoff games but it was Eason that did everything asked of him in NY, LA, and Miami on the way to SB 20.
1984, 1985, and 1986 Eason gave us the best Quarterbacking we had seen up until that point. And then everybody hated him because he wasnt the sainted Doug Flutie.

Raymond Berry and Tony Eason deserve all our appreciation for bringing a Super Bowl to a region that never dared dream of one before.

the bad fact is that we faced the Bears in Super Bowl XX (one of the best teams ever in NFL history imho).

the fact that he made 0 on 6 and the dysaster on THAT game probably
playied a part of the reason why fans are against him

but as per several fans the majorit that seems to be WITH him we should finally consider him absolutely a good Patriot player and without any doubt one of the best qb our franchise ever had.

of course he could have done more but we should never forget that thanks alos to him we arrived to try to win the Big Game

let's hope in the future he will come to Gillette and i really hope that the fans will cheer him like i should if i could be there

 

[italian pat patriot]

You can add my name to the list who think that Eason had a better career than most give him credit for. Few remember that in the season following the Superbowl, Eason had the best QB rating in the league. He was what he was, a good but not great QB, and one of the better ones the Pats ever had. Probably #5 on the list behind Brady, Bledsoe, Grogan, Parilli, and tied with Plunkett (who we also ran out of town, much to our discredit). He wasn't deserving of being banished to Patriots Purgatory

nice words too

 

[italian pat patriot]

It's nice to hear other fans supporting Eason. No he wasn't the greatest QB, but he contributed to the Patriots...and was successful for the most part.

he could have done more - he could have done less
but as you said he contributed for us surely and we could finally say without any doubt that he was successful too