Tomase Delivers Another Shot at Dillon

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

I seem to remember him not updating it for like weeks after the article which mentioned that Chad Jackson caught EVERYTHING in rookie camp. I must have looked at that blog like 20 times!
Reiss usually comes up with something, even when things are dead.

 

[JoeSixPat]

5 rings was what I thought in my gut from the start.......

Gotta go with my instinct, hope I didn't sell Pats Nation short!

After the first one I assume?

With the exception of **** Rehbein, if anyone predicted 5 rings for the 6th round pick, that person should throw out some random lottery numbers.

 

[arrellbee]

5 rings was what I thought in my gut from the start.......

Gotta go with my instinct, hope I didn't sell Pats Nation short!

Maybe you wanna be more aggresively positive - maybe re-up as "5 rings and counting" or "More Rings for Brady". LOL

 

[shakadave]

Where was it EVER said that Corey Dillon was not a good teamamte and was unwilling to help out young players? Everything I have ever heard from his teamates was nothing but positive.

Exactly right. I would be shocked if Dillon enacted a freezeout. Even his media freezeouts sometimes seem lighthearted, as when he joked last year continually about how he was too old to play.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

11 Rings For Brady!!!!!!!!!

 

[arrellbee]

Don't suffer NO fools ......

 

[patchick]

Exactly right. I would be shocked if Dillon enacted a freezeout. Even his media freezeouts sometimes seem lighthearted, as when he joked last year continually about how he was too old to play.

Wow, that didn't seem "lighthearted" to me at all. He delivered a pretty severe cold shoulder to the media. Dillon has been many terrific things in New England, but to these eyes lighthearted has never been one of them!

On the tone of this thread in general: maybe Tomase is, indeed, full of crap, but the fact that he's being negative isn't evidence either way. (Nor is that single photo of Dillon, IMO.) You get two opinions -- one you like, one you don't. So you bash the guy who suggests bad news and ridicule him for being negative, while embracing the more positive opinion. It's a natural impulse...but it always reminds me of Reggie Lewis.

 

[Richter]

I bet Tomase finds a lot of cream pies.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Patchick: We have to talk about something or there isn't anything to talk about. If you love the media much more than us, start a thread about something more interesting. I will be happy to participate! If we had more than a picture to look at about Dillon, we would 'go there'!
What we actually have is a bunch of guys in the media who don't seem to have their facts straight and we are simply trying to figure something to talk about.
I mentioned in one thread that Dillon always looked a half step behind Faulkster in camp. Curran's blog mentions that the other journalists are making wild guesses about people's weight and reporting it as fact, or even as 'insult'. Read Felger's article on Sullivan and start a thread on it. Tell us whether you think Felger deserves to call Sullivan a tube of goo, based on the width of his face (according to Curran).

Give us a new topic, and we'll run with it!

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Easy now, Richter!

I said 'creme pies'

 

[wcda]

The Pojo has a slide show showing with a pic of Dillion. http://www.projo.com/slideshow/minicamp1/ its about the 3rd or 4 pic. Looks real good to me.

 

[RayClay]

Wilfork looks a little chubby.

That must be how they get them to play NT.

"You work hard and get constantly double teamed. If you do a great job, somebody else gets the glory"

But.....

"You can eat all the cheeseburgers you want!"

 

[SoonerPatriot]

Tomase is just a football rookie, and as such, is merely acting as Felger's cabin boy while carrying Felger's water. Felger has always had an agenda against Dillon. I continue to have the rock-solid belief that Corey will have a big year, and Maroney will be eased into his role. By next year, Corey will enter his "Bettis phase": short yardage, goal line, and 4th Q monster. All this is fuel for the big guy's tank, and when he runs angry, he runs better.

And what would you base that on, the fact that you think Corey, 32, will have a really big year?

Last year in camp all we heard was how healthy he was, how good he looked yada yada yada. He comes out against Oakland and gets repeatedly stoned at the LOS and this was before all the injuries.

 

[RayClay]

And what would you base that on, the fact that you think Corey, 32, will have a really big year?

Last year in camp all we heard was how healthy he was, how good he looked yada yada yada. He comes out against Oakland and gets repeatedly stoned at the LOS and this was before all the injuries.

You're right, he has no right to get injured.

Then he should have just sat down and let Givens run against Buffallo instead of helping us win.

What a jerk.

 

[LloydBraun]

Dillon

Dillon will be fine. He and Mauroney will be a potent force this year.

Tomase is a Barenaked Ladies wanna-be. Whenever I see Meterperel or Tomase on FSN NE, I usually turn the TV to another channel. The naysayer Felger is leading me to do that as well.

I do not mind opinions, but please base them on a few facts.

 

[Ring 6]

I find this ridiculous.
There is absolutely NO WAY that there is a question whether Corey Dillon will be in shape to play football.
It may be that he's a bit out of shape because he was recovering from a leg injury.
To suggest that Corey Dillon will be out of shape for the football season is simply ludicrous to me.

 

[SoonerPatriot]

You're right, he has no right to get injured.

Then he should have just sat down and let Givens run against Buffallo instead of helping us win.

What a jerk.

He looked bad against Oakland -- before he was injured. It's also important to note that Dillon apologists continually point to his numerous, nagging injuries last year as the sole reason for his decline in production, yet ignore the fact that recurring, nagging injuries are a typical symptom of an older player that's begining to break down. But maybe your'e right. Dillon will defy his age. He will be the ageless wonder, He will continue to produce 1,600 yard seasons until he's 50, the time when he takes over George Foreman's grill empire.

Keep dreamin.

 

[Ring 6]

He looked bad against Oakland -- before he was injured. It's also important to note that Dillon apologists continually point to his numerous, nagging injuries last year as the sole reason for his decline in production, yet ignore the fact that recurring, nagging injuries are a typical symptom of an older player that's begining to break down. But maybe your'e right. Dillon will defy his age. He will be the ageless wonder, He will continue to produce 1,600 yard seasons until he's 50, the time when he takes over George Foreman's grill empire.

Keep dreamin.

A good rule of thumb is extreme opinions are usually wrong.
That means that the idea that Dillon is today exactly what he was in 2004 is wrong. And also that he is done is wrong.
Using one game, a game we won, as the 'proof' is foolhardy. Pretending 100% of the dropoff was injuires AND pretneding they wont happen again is foolhardy too.

The facts as I see them are that Dillon was severely hampered by injuries. That at his age the recurrance of injuries is a legitimate concern, but that if he had been injury free the dropoff from 04 to 05 would have been reasonably small.

What will happen in 06? Depends if he stays healthy, which is less likely each year. The reason it is much less of a concern is that if he is fine, Marouney learns and spells him, if he is not Marouney steps in and RB is by far the one position where rookies play as well as vets.

Not to be flippant but we cant really lose on this one.

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

It's not hard to recognize that many of the comments here regarding Tomase and the 'media' are straight out of the right wing's manual for hating the liberal-factless-biased-against-anyone's-success (except the slobs in Hollywood) media. The irony is that Tomase works for a right wing paper; just another tabloid raving about values in the op-eds while saying and showing anything to get attention - have you ever looked at the NY Post?

Give these reporters a break - they're just people like us trying to make their way in a tough world. Judging from all the TV shows, news columns, blogs, and radio talk, etc., we seem to be pretty hungry for the thoughts of these close observers of the Patriots. Personally, I love to see as much as can be put out - I don't mind sorting the through a little chaf to read the wheat.

 

[PonyExpress]

And what would you base that on, the fact that you think Corey, 32, will have a really big year?

Last year in camp all we heard was how healthy he was, how good he looked yada yada yada. He comes out against Oakland and gets repeatedly stoned at the LOS and this was before all the injuries.

Oakland had a very good run defense early in the year before their season collapsed, with Big Ted, Sapp, and Tommy Kelly doing an excellent job up front. You probably have heard BB compliment Tommy Kelly's ability in the past. Those boys are usually good for a game of total effort a year and they hung one on the Pats in Game 1, which I didn't find a surprise, considering it was prime time and the kickoff classic. The very next week they stoned KC's rushing game, the best in the league, that had devastated the Jets the week prior, limiting them to 3.5 yards a carry. My opinion about Dillon is based on my knowledge of Dillon's personality and career. If you read the training camp reports in 2004, you would see similar complaints by reporters about Dillon lolligagging and not putting forth full effort during drills. By the way, my definition of a "big year" for Dillon is 800 yards and 5-10 TDs, with Maroney and Faulk combined matching that total.