The Official NFL Cut Thread

[BradyFTW!]

One injury and it’s a problem. We are banking on Jules to be the same player he once was. I don’t trust dorsett. The guy has been a bust to this point. Hogan’s the big wildcard here. I wish at times he would do better against man coverage. Looks like Edelman will be tom’s security blanket again.

That's the nature of the salary cap. In any given year, every team is one injury from having a major problem across most of the positions on the roster. It takes fantastic drafting and cap management just to have solid starters at every position, nobody has strong depth at all or even most positions.

 

[maineman209]

 

[BradyFTW!]

That's really interesting, seems like they're trying to turn him into a swiss army knife given that he's now taken snaps at DT, DE and LB. He's athletic and has a high motor so I hope they find a place where they can use that to full effect. I'm skeptical it'll work out, he's big for a LB (although the Pats seem to like that), but if he can drop a bit of weight and add a bit of agility and maybe fill something like a 2014-Ayers type role, that could be a great role for him.

 

[Ring 6]

Where was ray?

 

[maineman209]

I'm guessing that Bolden is a "bridge cut" like last year - to allow the Pats to keep someone through cuts to get them on IR/Eligible to Return.

 

[Clonamery]

I think most of the draft forum are comfortable with my scouting history .And I had him pegged as a backup/potential developmental starter. Hardly qualifies as "going this hard".

You're also a decent chap.

 

[maineman209]

 

[mcmurtry86]

Are you kidding me? About one half into the season Dola had torn his groin and another quarter later Vereen had his hand broken. Gronk didn't play the first couple of games because of the complications with his arm surgery.

The offense was Edelman (before he was Edelman), Dobson, KT, Mulligan, Hooman, Collie and Josh Boyce.

2013 was so bad it is not even close to 2018.

Are you kidding me? You completely and apparently deliberately missed my qualifier: "on paper going into the season"

Nice job arguing something I didn't say though.

Also, for reference, I was purely talking WR. Not taking into account TE or RB. If you think 2018 WR > 2013 opening day WR, that's fine but you should make that argument and not invent arguments to debate

 

[miloofcroton]

If you really believe that I'd recommend you check out the following depth charts:

Cowboys
Bills
Jaguars
Cardinals - Fitzgerald is 35 and they have little else
49ers
Seahawks - Baldwin already has a knee injury that's unlikely to get anywhere near 100% this season
Colts - nothing there after Hilton.
Jets - this one is tough, since opinions vary so widely on Kearse, Pryor and Anderson. I'm not a fan of any of them, so I think their WRs suck.
Panthers - Funchess might be good, everyone else they have sucks.
Bears - Robinson is coming back from the same injury as Edelman, with no familiarity in their offense
Packers - borderline, but with Cobb's ankles being basically taped together at this point they've got little after Adams, who's probably 1-2 concussions from retirement himself.

Even if you ignore Gronk and White's roles in the passing game and laser-focus on wide receivers specifically, the Pats' WR depth chart is objectively better than most of those teams, and is at least as good as the others.

I'm also a 49er fan, so I've paid attention to their roster. They have a decent amount of WR talent actually. This is a perfect example of talent not being well-known until it succeeds on the grand stage of the regular season, but fans and people who follow certain teams will know if it exists within.

 

[Love The Drake]

Ok so another reveiver has to come in.
Got to admit kind of sad about Bolden.
I see Tenn or Detroit in his future.

 

[Ring 6]

Ok so another reveiver has to come in.
Got to admit kind of sad about Bolden.
I see Tenn or Detroit in his future.

We may go with 3 WRs.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I wonder who's returning punts now, with Berrios on IR and Jones and McCaron both being cut. I was hoping Edelman would be permanently off of punt returning even after he came back, but with the Pats cutting basically every other option on the roster it seems like the plan is to keep him back there.

And what about weeks 1-4? Is it going to be Chung or Patterson back there or something? Seems weird, but I'm sure there's a plan/

 

[luuked]

Are you kidding me? You completely and apparently deliberately missed my qualifier: "on paper going into the season"

Nice job arguing something I didn't say though.

Also, for reference, I was purely talking WR. Not taking into account TE or RB. If you think 2018 WR > 2013 opening day WR, that's fine but you should make that argument and not invent arguments to debate

Because your qualifier stinks. 30 minutes into the season Dola was essentially done for the year. He never got over that torn groin that season.

If you talk solely WR the picture is even worse. 30 minutes in we had not a single established WR on the roster. Edelman was a depth player and afterthought at that point.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

We may go with 3 WRs.

Well if that’s the case then bill has some stones. I don’t believe it yet but we will see.

 

[manxman2601]

Tom Savage is real. Only relevant to Around The NFL podcast listeners.

 

[DaBruinz]

I wonder who's returning punts now, with Berrios on IR and Jones and McCaron both being cut. I was hoping Edelman would be permanently off of punt returning even after he came back, but with the Pats cutting basically every other option on the roster it seems like the plan is to keep him back there.

And what about weeks 1-4? Is it going to be Chung or Patterson back there or something? Seems weird, but I'm sure there's a plan/

They're probably making a trade or they are going to try and get someone like Kalif Raymond off waivers..

 

[BradyFTW!]

I'm also a 49er fan, so I've paid attention to their roster. They have a decent amount of WR talent actually. This is a perfect example of talent not being well-known until it succeeds on the grand stage of the regular season, but fans and people who follow certain teams will know if it exists within.

Every fanbase in the league can say that every summer. But we've had Marquise Goodwin in the division for four years, we know what he is. And if he's your WR2 behind Garcon, then your WRs probably aren't very good. The only way the 49ers WRs will be even reasonably solid is if Pettis is an instant contributor, and relying on a second round rookie to produce right away brings you into uncertainty/hypothetical territory even beyond where the Pats are with stuff like hoping one of Patterson/Dorsett can be a capable WR3.

It's not impossible that the WR depth chart works out fine for them, especially with Shanahan calling the shots, but they have every bit as much uncertainty in production across the depth chart as the Pats do, without the level of established production at 1-2 that the Pats have.

 

[maineman209]

Got to admit kind of sad about Bolden.
I see Tenn or Detroit in his future.

Bolden is highly likely to be back on the roster in time for Sunday afternoon practice, and someone else gone to IR/Eligible to Return.

 

[Tony2046]

If you really believe that I'd recommend you check out the following depth charts:

Cowboys
Bills
Jaguars
Cardinals - Fitzgerald is 35 and they have little else
49ers
Seahawks - Baldwin already has a knee injury that's unlikely to get anywhere near 100% this season
Colts - nothing there after Hilton.
Jets - this one is tough, since opinions vary so widely on Kearse, Pryor and Anderson. I'm not a fan of any of them, so I think their WRs suck.
Panthers - Funchess might be good, everyone else they have sucks.
Bears - Robinson is coming back from the same injury as Edelman, with no familiarity in their offense
Packers - borderline, but with Cobb's ankles being basically taped together at this point they've got little after Adams, who's probably 1-2 concussions from retirement himself.

Even if you ignore Gronk and White's roles in the passing game and laser-focus on wide receivers specifically, the Pats' WR depth chart is objectively better than most of those teams, and is at least as good as the others.

Ignoring Gronk and White's roles is the equivalent of ignoring the queen and knight's roles in a chess match.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Ignoring Gronk and White's roles is the equivalent of ignoring the queen and knight's roles in a chess match.

Pretty much, which is why conflating WRs with the passing game is disingenuous at best. But people do it all the time for some reason so when they're still wrong it's especially telling.