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I love the dum dums on here saying we'd have exactly the same results as the Colts had this year, because hey look! They lost manning and they're 2-13! That means if we lost Brady we'd be 2-13!
It just clarifies to me that they've been casual Pats fans at best, at least up to 2008.
Dum dums: We lost Brady and Matt Cassel took us to 11-5. Now granted the football Gods had decreed we would just not make the playoffs that year, but do the math.
Beside the fact that the Colts are just not that spirited or talented without laser-rocket-arm, there's the way he fits in their offense to think about.
The Pats have a playbook and a system. I remember back in the day, when we talked Brady-Manning wars, they'd say Brady is a "system quarterback."
They're right. So is Manning. Their "System" is a basic playbook, and TBH it wouldn't matter what's in it. Manning changes every play at the line of scrimmage. That's the system: One guy w/tremendous football vision and smarts changing the play on the fly to exploit weaknesses.
A quick moment of appreciation for Seyton Manning, please? He's really, really, really good at that.
Now Brady can audible, Brady can shift the pocket around, Brady can hit the open man, and Brady's a winner. It would be nice if he started doing more of that winning stuff in the playoffs for the last few years, mebbe 3 more rings, whatevah. But he doesn't do what Peyton does.
That's a good thing, because if he did, this team would indeed be toast without him. You can't replace that with a random playbook du jour and expect similar results.
I also think a lot of the Colts have thrown in the towel already. Some no, Freeny was still performing, but come on. 2-13? And probably 1-14, if it weren't that *cough* the Houston Texans are their Super Bowl...
Anyway, if they throw/lose (hard to tell which it is this year) next week, best of Luck (pun intended) in the post-Manning era.
Like the Colts brass says, you don't just replace Seyton... if he's back and all the way healthy, they'll have a shot. Otherwise, let the rebuilding begin. Window'll be closed a few years, sorry.
Post-Brady Pats? With BB alive? Rebuilding might dump us down to 8-8 (I think.) We'll see. But I think 2008 was a very heartening preview. This team lucked out on a superstar pick. Yay us. But I think Brady's skills have overshadowed everything supporting him.
After all, he's a (heh) "system quarterback."
PFnV
It just clarifies to me that they've been casual Pats fans at best, at least up to 2008.
Dum dums: We lost Brady and Matt Cassel took us to 11-5. Now granted the football Gods had decreed we would just not make the playoffs that year, but do the math.
Beside the fact that the Colts are just not that spirited or talented without laser-rocket-arm, there's the way he fits in their offense to think about.
The Pats have a playbook and a system. I remember back in the day, when we talked Brady-Manning wars, they'd say Brady is a "system quarterback."
They're right. So is Manning. Their "System" is a basic playbook, and TBH it wouldn't matter what's in it. Manning changes every play at the line of scrimmage. That's the system: One guy w/tremendous football vision and smarts changing the play on the fly to exploit weaknesses.
A quick moment of appreciation for Seyton Manning, please? He's really, really, really good at that.
Now Brady can audible, Brady can shift the pocket around, Brady can hit the open man, and Brady's a winner. It would be nice if he started doing more of that winning stuff in the playoffs for the last few years, mebbe 3 more rings, whatevah. But he doesn't do what Peyton does.
That's a good thing, because if he did, this team would indeed be toast without him. You can't replace that with a random playbook du jour and expect similar results.
I also think a lot of the Colts have thrown in the towel already. Some no, Freeny was still performing, but come on. 2-13? And probably 1-14, if it weren't that *cough* the Houston Texans are their Super Bowl...
Anyway, if they throw/lose (hard to tell which it is this year) next week, best of Luck (pun intended) in the post-Manning era.
Like the Colts brass says, you don't just replace Seyton... if he's back and all the way healthy, they'll have a shot. Otherwise, let the rebuilding begin. Window'll be closed a few years, sorry.
Post-Brady Pats? With BB alive? Rebuilding might dump us down to 8-8 (I think.) We'll see. But I think 2008 was a very heartening preview. This team lucked out on a superstar pick. Yay us. But I think Brady's skills have overshadowed everything supporting him.
After all, he's a (heh) "system quarterback."
PFnV