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The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

I promise you if you stop responding, you can just do what most of the people do on this board when they see these posts, and laugh. It's comical at this point. Some people just get their rocks off by being contrarian, has nothing to do with reality lol.
I know I need to be better and I know some of these guys are trolling but I can't help it the anger sharks start swimming in my head.
 
What we do know is this:

Brady played 3 years without Belichick and won a Super Bowl.

Belichick has what? 11 years as an HC without Brady (I’ve honestly lost track) and has all of 1 playoff victory.
We also know Bill Belichick has 8 Superbowl rings.
What we do know is this:

Brady played 3 years without Belichick and won a Super Bowl.

Belichick has what? 11 years as an HC without Brady (I’ve honestly lost track) and has all of 1 playoff victory

Copy and pasted from a wise man
Bill Parcells has a famous quote, "You are what your record says you are."

No one except you and these supposed wise men says, "You only are what your record is without you're best player."
 
We also know Bill Belichick has 8 Superbowl rings.
Bill Parcells has a famous quote, "You are what your record says you are."

No one except you and these supposed wise men says, "You only are what your record is without you're best player."
You are what your record says you are, but only with your record minus multiple SB rings and your HoF game plan as DC because your record when you weren’t HC doesn’t count.
 
You are what your record says you are, but only with your record minus multiple SB rings and your HoF game plan as DC because your record when you weren’t HC doesn’t count.
333 Ws and 178 Ls .647 winning percentage.
 
Ignoring Weiss, BOB, and McDaniels.

But yes of course a defensive minded guy is going to have people on offense that he relies on same as a strong offensive coach like Reid needs Spagnola and Chris Jones to balance the scales.
Weis and Josh were subpar HC’s without Bill. BOB also hasn’t won anything. Brady has. He isn’t just BB’s best player he was an offensive savant that you don’t see in the league from a player. Because of Brady’s input Bill’s defenses were better. And of course vice versa. Take Brady away and the hole that gets created is extremely hard to fix.
 
You are what your record says you are, but only with your record minus multiple SB rings and your HoF game plan as DC because your record when you weren’t HC doesn’t count.

I think Josh McDaniels is better than Andy Reid because Josh has 6 rings. Reid has 4. Or something.
 
We also know Bill Belichick has 8 Superbowl rings.
Nothing here contradicts anything I said.
Bill Parcells has a famous quote, "You are what your record says you are."

No one except you and these supposed wise men says, "You only are what your record is without you're best player."
All I did was state a fact and, as noted above, nothing you’ve said contradicts anything I said.

No member of the Patriots coaching staff during the dynasty ever had any success as an HC without Tom Brady on the team - especially Bill Belichick who, by all impartial accounts, has been a failure to such a level that absolutely no fanbase would tolerate.

I used to do the old crossword puzzle gag where the clue was “HC Belichick without Brady” and the answer was Jeff Fisher. I stopped doing that when it became clear that HC Belichick without Brady isn’t even that good.
 
Weis and Josh were subpar HC’s without Bill. BOB also hasn’t won anything. Brady has. He isn’t just BB’s best player he was an offensive savant that you don’t see in the league from a player. Because of Brady’s input Bill’s defenses were better. And of course vice versa. Take Brady away and the hole that gets created is extremely hard to fix.
Ok got it so now you think Brady didn't even need offensive coordinators and he was so good and smart he could even run the defense too.

Hitting new all time lows I see.
 
Ok got it so now you think Brady didn't even need offensive coordinators and he was so good and smart he could even run the defense too.

Hitting new all time lows I see.
Weird…. I don’t recall saying he could run the defense? I’ll have to read my own post again maybe then I’ll remember it.
 
Nothing here contradicts anything I said.

All I did was state a fact and, as noted above, nothing you’ve said contradicts anything I said.

No member of the Patriots coaching staff during the dynasty ever had any success as an HC without Tom Brady on the team - especially Bill Belichick who, by all impartial accounts, has been a failure to such a level that absolutely no fanbase would tolerate.

I used to do the old crossword puzzle gag where the clue was “HC Belichick without Brady” and the answer was Jeff Fisher. I stopped doing that when it became clear that HC Belichick without Brady isn’t even that good.
I'll tell you what if you want to take the 19 best years away from Bill then it's only fair to do the same for any coach who you compare Bill too. Once you've done that assignment let me know the results. Bill won't be in first anymore but maybe the results will interesting and somehow useful. Or come up with some other fair comparison but you can't take years of Bill's career away from him and then compare him to other coaches without similar adjusting their stats or you're just completely messing up the math.
 
Weird…. I don’t recall saying he could run the defense? I’ll have to read my own post again maybe then I’ll remember it.
You do all sorts of weird things in your quest to give only Brady credit for everything. You clearly don't even realize it anymore but you take away more than just Bill's accomplishments with the things you write.

"T-E-A-M as in team."
 
I think Josh McDaniels is better than Andy Reid because Josh has 6 rings. Reid has 4. Or something.
No one's suggesting this except you.

A more accurate way to put it would be to say that Josh's 6 rings certainly go a long way in making a case that he's better than other coaches who never won as HCs either.

And an even more simple way of looking at is that I'm sure Josh has a similar level of pride over each of his 6 as Bill does for each of the 2 he got in NY.
 
Fixed it for you
So either Bill drafted a kid in the first round that had no business being in the league or he botched his development. Which is it?
 
You do all sorts of weird things in your quest to give only Brady credit for everything. You clearly don't even realize it anymore but you take away more than just Bill's accomplishments with the things you write.

"T-E-A-M as in team."
How have the Patriots done since Brady left?
 
No one's suggesting this except you.

A more accurate way to put it would be to say that Josh's 6 rings certainly go a long way in making a case that he's better than other coaches who never won as HCs either.

And an even more simple way of looking at is that I'm sure Josh has a similar level of pride over each of his 6 as Bill does for each of the 2 he got in NY.
Does Matt Patricia’s 2 rings make a case for him that he’s better than Sean McDermott who has 0 rings?
 
You do all sorts of weird things in your quest to give only Brady credit for everything. You clearly don't even realize it anymore but you take away more than just Bill's accomplishments with the things you write.

"T-E-A-M as in team."
I’m telling you how Brady was a once in a lifetime offensive football savant/player that Bill was lucky enough to coach. Not just “his best player”.
 
Why? It was a question for you and those guys weren’t around after Brady left
Like I said You clearly don't even realize it anymore but you take away more than just Bill's accomplishments with the things you write.
 
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