The Bend But Don't Break Defense

[jbb9s]

What does how many players they rush have to do with a bend-don't-break defense. A bend-don't-break defense means you give up a lot of yards, but not a lot of points. That is exactly what the Giants did tonight.

The reason the defense doesn't break is because they are waiting for the QB to make a mistake, get strip sacked, whatever. There is a very low probability of that happening when there is no pressure on the QB.

Brady was sacked on his last possession, Eli was not. No surprise who won.

 

[Ring 6]

for someone with as many posts as you, i would classify this response as pretty disingenuous since I know you actually know that the giants can rush the passer even while dropping 7 maybe 8 into coverage.

Are you an idiot? Bend but dont break defense means overplay taking away the big play at the expense of allowing the small play. That is just what the Giants did.

 

[Rob0729]

The reason the defense doesn't break is because they are waiting for the QB to make a mistake, get strip sacked, whatever. There is a very low probability of that happening when there is no pressure on the QB.

Brady was sacked on his last possession, Eli was not. No surprise who won.

No offense, but you have no clue what the bend-don't-break defense is. The BDB defense is designed to allow short yardage plays, but not deep plays. You allow a team to move down the field but protects the over the top.

The pass rush has zero to do what makes the BDB defense work. It can be part of it or it may not be.

 

[sambam94]

Eli was sacked twice on their first possession...then just once more the rest of the game.

With 3 good WRs, and time to throw, there wasn't much doubt he would move the ball down the field ion that final drive.

 

[ScottishPat]

I hope BB puts more focus into the D now that McDaniels is back. I think we need to see new calls/blitzes, something teams haven't seen, it's like teams know what we're going to do. We have a solid foundation for the O with Wilfork, Mayo, Chung and hopefully McCourty if he returns to 2010 form. All I would like is for them to stop giving up all this yardage and a solid pass rush.

 

[jbb9s]

the bend dont break defense is effective when you can force an offense to string together 15 or 18 consecutive plays without making a mistake. the likelihood of the offensive making a mistake is a result of (A) QB pressure with only the down lineman rushing or (B) playmakers on defense that can make a game changing play. If you don't have either ones of those, the likelihood of the defense being successful isn't high.

 

[Ring 6]

the bend dont break defense is effective when you can force an offense to string together 15 or 18 consecutive plays without making a mistake. the likelihood of the offensive making a mistake is a result of (A) QB pressure with only the down lineman rushing or (B) playmakers on defense that can make a game changing play. If you don't have either ones of those, the likelihood of the defense being successful isn't high.

So the fact that we were near the top of the league in sacks and takeaways means what?

 

[eom]

people go on and on about the giants pass rush, but they were getting to brady late in the game because he couldn't find a receiver because giants switched up to man, which I don't think our db's can do very well.
it's a team sport, and a team defense.
if we had db's who could lock down receivers all of a sudden people would be raving about our pass rush.

I thought they did a pretty good job today --- if you have to hold the other team to 14 points in the superbowl you might be in for a disappointing day.

 

[jbb9s]

No offense, but you have no clue what the bend-don't-break defense is. The BDB defense is designed to allow short yardage plays, but not deep plays. You allow a team to move down the field but protects the over the top.

The pass rush has zero to do what makes the BDB defense work. It can be part of it or it may not be.

Are you an idiot? Bend but dont break defense means overplay taking away the big play at the expense of allowing the small play. That is just what the Giants did.

are we classifying 38 yard receptions a "short yardage play" ?

 

[Ring 6]

are we classifying 38 yard receptions a "short yardage play" ?

What are you talking about?
The Giant defense that won the SB tongiht was playing a bend but dont break style.

 

[jbb9s]

So the fact that we were near the top of the league in sacks and takeaways means what?

Andy, taking a percentage of sacks per passing plays defensed, the team was pretty lousy.

Also, to know fault of their own, the Patriots faced some horrendous teams.

thats what it means.

 

[Rob0729]

are we classifying 38 yard receptions a "short yardage play" ?

One play does not make a game. You are reaching for straws. But we are talking about the Giants who did give up a lot of yard yardage plays (Brady did complete 27 passes for 276 yards with the longest being 21 yards).

 

[Joker]

What are you talking about?
The Giant defense that won the SB tongiht was playing a bend but dont break style.

don't bother, Andy....the Pats suck because they lost the Super Bowl in the last minute..as he and all the rest of these whiny idiots have been nervously waiting to happen so they can unleash all the hate and vitriol they've stored up all season.

 

[Sciz]

are we classifying 38 yard receptions a "short yardage play" ?

That was the one play during the game where either team picked up more than 25 yards. That's a hell of a performance from both teams as far as bending without breaking.

 

[jbb9s]

What are you talking about?
The Giant defense that won the SB tongiht was playing a bend but dont break style.

they won the SB tonight by sacking Tom Brady on the last drive of the season. forget the yards and the lost down, forcing the use of the timeout effectively ended that drive.

On the other biggest play they made on defense, they forced Brady into a bad throw with pressure.

if you want to say they won because of their bend dont break defense, we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[Ring 6]

Andy, taking a percentage of sacks per passing plays defensed, the team was pretty lousy.

Also, to know fault of their own, the Patriots faced some horrendous teams.

thats what it means.

OK. Wrong on all counts. Go back to crying please.

 

[Ring 6]

they won the SB tonight by sacking Tom Brady on the last drive of the season. forget the yards and the lost down, forcing the use of the timeout effectively ended that drive.

On the other biggest play they made on defense, they forced Brady into a bad throw with pressure.

if you want to say they won because of their bend dont break defense, we'll have to agree to disagree.

The Giants played a bend but dont break defense, That is a fact.
Saying the entire game was decided by what happened with 27 seconds left is foolish, yet they were playing a deep coverage allow the short pass (bend dont break) defense on that play too.
Are you so ignorant that you think bend but dont,brealk means dont try to sack the QB?

 

[Rob0729]

they won the SB tonight by sacking Tom Brady on the last drive of the season. forget the yards and the lost down, forcing the use of the timeout effectively ended that drive.

On the other biggest play they made on defense, they forced Brady into a bad throw with pressure.

if you want to say they won because of their bend dont break defense, we'll have to agree to disagree.

The Giants won more because the Pats couldn't move the ball down the field in big chunks. The reason why Brady got sacked was in part because he couldn't find someone open down the field when he needed it. The pats needed to score an 80 yard TD in 57 seconds with only one time out and that is tough against a bend-don't-break style of defense.

That is if you want to say the who game was decided in the final minute and the rest of the 59 minutes were irrelevant.

If the Giants needed to score their TD in 57 seconds with one time out, they probably couldn't have done it either. It took them nearly three times as long to get their TD and the Pats let them score so they would have extra time to try to respond.

 

[jcdavey]

some of you are trying to blame your defense , but your offense just isn't high powered as it has been.

brady played great most of the game, his receivers let him down with multiple drops, and he had that one grounding flag, and the dumb int which was really just a nice punt anyway.

but the D was hittin hard as i've ever seen your recent D's hit.

if welker catches the ball, the NE D is getting praised big time tonight.

the game would have likely ended 24-15 or 20-15 for NE

and when your D only gives up 13 (if welker makes the catch) or even as has been pointed out, they probably only give up 16 points if belichick doesn't have them give up the free td at the end, the defense did their job.

no reason NE can go back to back td drives on offense and take almost the rest of the game off, yet blame the defense.

 

[sambam94]

that's right..only 2 Pats Tds were right before the half and opening drive of the 2nd half.....and it appeared so easy on those 2 drives.