taking out bradys knees

[He Ban Me]

Re: OTL stoking the fire

Riiight, I think it was David Garrard's ankle that was injured on the hit Monday night.....

You're just flat out wrong if you think that was an intentional act. No fine either, and please don't throw Goodell and his "agenda" in my face, that's lame.

 

[JoeSixPat]

This seems to be the sentiment from fans everywhere. go to any rival site and I guarentee you there is a patriots thread. open the thread and you will see idiots talking about our "lack of class" yet ironically the suggest taking bradys knees out. THATS WHAT THIS HAS COME TO GUYS, scared and insecure fools no longer able to think up a real way to beat the pats so the suggestion of intentionally injuring #12 seems rational. now thats class

Actually this is worse than we originally thought..,

They weren't talking about "taking out Brady's knees"

They were talking about "taking out Brady's niece"

Apparently she's quite the hottie but if you ask me, that's COMPLETELY OUT OF BOUNDS and they shouldn't be talking about any of Tom's relatives in that context.

 

[maverick4]

I will be absolutely furious if this happens, and I do think there are enough slimeballs in the media and in the NFL to manipulate some dumb player to actually do this.

Brady is completely defenseless when he drops back especially right after he throws, I will want blood if some defensive player goes for Brady's knees after he throws the balls (ala Carson Palmer's injury).

Look at what happened with the 1989 49ers, Montana had a huge target on his back and then it wasn't too long before he nearly broke his back from a hit and was out of the league for 2 years.

 

[Sunqueen212]

I didn't say for them to kneel down. I simply asked them to take Brady out of the game when it we are ahead by more than 30 points. That way, we can still play the game without risking injury to our best player.

How many 30 point leads have we had thus far? How many quarters/games would that equate to if Brady/1st string offense were to sit out?

 

[He Ban Me]

Actually this is worse than we originally thought..,

They weren't talking about "taking out Brady's knees"

They were talking about "taking out Brady's niece"

Apparently she's quite the hottie but if you ask me, that's COMPLETELY OUT OF BOUNDS and they shouldn't be talking about any of Tom's relatives in that context.

[in my best Emily Latella voice], "Oh, that's very different........nevermind "

 

[NYCPatsFan]

What worries me is this para in profootballtalk.com under "Wilbon..." (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm)

"We expect to hear more and more about taking out Brady as the weeks go by -- and we think that the team with the most to gain via his absence needs to be monitored closely for low hits this weekend, especially since Colts defensive line coach John Teerlinck has a reputation in league circles for teaching his pupils to aim for the ACL."

I thought that the Broncos were the only dirty team that went out of the way to hurt the players; didn't know that the Colts had this rep....

 

[DGameguy]

I know that this was mentioned briefly in another thread, but I think this story deserves it's own. Today in a chat session (which can be found here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews) Michael Wilbon of the Washington Post and ESPN's PTI openly advocates for an opposing defensive player to commit a personal foul and injure Tom Brady by taking out his knees. This is perhaps the most unprofessional act committed by a sportswriter that I have seen short of plagiarism. Not only is it unprofessional, but it is dangerous and immoral. To suggest that someone have their livelihood and health threatened because you cannot beat them is absolutely terrible.

To be honest, I think ESPN and the Washington Post need to discipline him, but I feel like they won't move on it unless readers/viewers express their outrage. Who would be the best person to contact? The ESPN ombudsperson? Im afraid that this will seep through the cracks because it wasn't said in a column or on PTI, but in an online chat session, with a decidedly smaller audience.

This is absolutely dispicable. I always thought Wilbon was kind of a trash columnist, but this is just terrible. This is the type of twisted, contrived relativist moralism that Wilbon and others in the sports media are espousing: running it up on old man Gibbs is bad, but purposely injuring a player is ok. Awful, awful.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I know that this was mentioned briefly in another thread, but I think this story deserves it's own.

No it does not.
Good job Mods.
Just WHAT is with all these "LOOK AT ME" dweebs who feel compelled to start their own threads just to highlight their own inane opinions on a topic PREVIOUSLY BEATEN TO DEATH????

 

[Kdo5]

I am very nervous that they will try to injure Tom and it would absolutely piss me off if it happened. They'd probably pretend like it was an accident too.

I do hope that the Colts won't stoop to such a pathetic and immature level. I have some respect for that team but it would be pathetic if the SB champs can only beat us by taking out our QB.

 

[ColtinIraq]

I am very nervous that they will try to injure Tom and it would absolutely piss me off if it happened. They'd probably pretend like it was an accident too.

Honestly if such a thing happened I would be A okay with one of our guys jumping at Peyton Manning's leg and taking him out as well. Lets hope the Colts don't stoop to such a pathetic level even though I doubt Belichick would ever ever send a player at another QB's leg.

Your fear shouldn't come against the Colts. After us all bets are off.

 

[Kdo5]

Your fear shouldn't come against the Colts. After us all bets are off.

I am a little concerned with teams such as the Steelers that have scum bags who would stoop to the level of potentially ruining a player's career. I don't think the Colts would do it...hopefully the offensive line continues their amazing protection and nobody gets close to Brady's knees.

 

[DGameguy]

No it does not.
Good job Mods.
Just WHAT is with all these "LOOK AT ME" dweebs who feel compelled to start their own threads just to highlight their own inane opinions on a topic PREVIOUSLY BEATEN TO DEATH????

THREAD NAZI!!!!

 

[PatsSteve1]

Re: Wilbon endorses knocking out Brady thru dirty play

"I'm saying football is a violent game and I believe in an eye for an eye. You think Sam Huff wouldn't have taken out Brady yesterday? And when I say "take out" I don't mean go for his knees; I mean a clean shot with every once of force one can summon...right in the strike zone. You think Butkus and LT and Bednarik would have stood for that stuff? No way. No chance."

Those guys could play defense and would have stopped the play when the Patriots went on 4th down. The Skins did an onside kick and went for it on 4th down deep in thier own end down 38 points. Did they really think they were going to come back? Why extend the game and then expect the Patriots to just lie down and let them do it? If the Skins didn't like the score why not run it out themselves and get the game overwith?

 

[mossownzu]

We need to take the homer glasses off. BB ran up the score against the Skins - there are no ifs, ands or butts about it. Anyone who says otherwise is just dishonest - period. To borrow from college football, the skins game reminded me of the Houston days when they had Klingler and Ware, and the Florida days when Spurrier was there. The Houston coach and Spurrier were roundly criticized (people still hold a grudge against Spurrier), so pats fans should expect some flak.

BB should simply tone it down. If the pats are up by 30 in the 4th, run the ball - period. There is less than 1% chance that Brady or the WRs will get hurt if you just run. If the opposing team starts calling timeouts and throwing bombs, I have no issue with opening it up a little, but when it is clear that the opponent has mailed it in, BB should call the dogs off. College basketball coaches have no qualms about telling a player to "take the other guy out" if the team is running it up. I'm assuming pro coaches and rabid d-coordinators have no qualms about the doing the same.

Sportsmanship exists in pee wee, H.S. football, college, and yes, the Pros. Retribution also occurs in pee wee, H.S. football, college, and yes, the Pros. BB should call the dogs off a little earlier out of sportsmanship and to avoid retribution. I wouldn't worry about the colts, but celler dweller teams have nothing to lose...

 

[PatriotsReign]

We need to take the homer glasses off. BB ran up the score against the Skins - there are no ifs, ands or butts about it. Anyone who says otherwise is just dishonest - period. To borrow from college football, the skins game reminded me of the Houston days when they had Klingler and Ware, and the Florida days when Spurrier was there. The Houston coach and Spurrier were roundly criticized (people still hold a grudge against Spurrier), so pats fans should expect some flak.

BB should simply tone it down. If the pats are up by 30 in the 4th, run the ball - period. There is less than 1% chance that Brady or the WRs will get hurt if you just run. If the opposing team starts calling timeouts and throwing bombs, I have no issue with opening it up a little, but when it is clear that the opponent has mailed it in, BB should call the dogs off. College basketball coaches have no qualms about telling a player to "take the other guy out" if the team is running it up. I'm assuming pro coaches and rabid d-coordinators have no qualms about the doing the same.

Sportsmanship exists in pee wee, H.S. football, college, and yes, the Pros. Retribution also occurs in pee wee, H.S. football, college, and yes, the Pros. BB should call the dogs off a little earlier out of sportsmanship and to avoid retribution. I wouldn't worry about the colts, but celler dweller teams have nothing to lose...

If's, and's and But's...you're being dishonest with yourself...you're not really a Patriots fan, so cut the crap.

Anyone who joins this board and immediately criticizes the Patriots is a troll. You're being watched

You forget to share with us which team you root for...so tell us, which team do YOU root for?

 

[fgssand]

Agreed. And you can thank your deuche of a coach for applying the bulls eye on Brady.

But hey, giving the rest of the league the finger feels too good to care, right?

So when your GM came out and said "get Flutie, break his leg" that was OK?? But playing football until the game is over is not??

Tell me now, exactly how disrespected would the team feel if the Patriots had either kicked field goals (with a 5 or 6 TD lead) or started to take a knee??

See, the reality is, you get 4 downs in this game and if you go more than 10 yards, you get another 4 until you reach the end zone.

Please tell me, oh wise one from the armpit of the world known as Indiana, now that I have told you how the game is played, how else should they have handled the situation??

Why don't you all skip the pretense and just take a gun out and shoot Brady in the arm if you want to be sure to stop him this year..that might work - then again, I am not so sure.

 

[chunkypony]

How many 30 point leads have we had thus far? How many quarters/games would that equate to if Brady/1st string offense were to sit out?

I don't know how many 30 point leads we have had, but I would just like them to continue what they are doing, leaving brady in until there is about 9 minutes left in the game. Perhaps running the ball a bit more when we are up by 30. I don't know. I don't care about the score. I want us to score as much as possible, I just get nervous (i.e. terrified) when Brady is in and we don't neccesarily NEED him in.

 

[emoney_33]

Taking a knee would have been the smart move for 2 reasons. 1) you show you're not running it up and 2) and more importantly, you don't risk injury to your stars.

That's it. How the opposing team feels about being knelt on is beside the point.

And I'm from New York City. You know, the capital of the world...

Yea I'm sure you will see a friggin team take a knee with 11 or 9 minutes left in the game... The pats have taken knees when they can run the clock out to end the game, always have always will. They won't take knees just for the sake of taking knees if it doesn't end the game, it doesn't even make sense!

 

[emoney_33]

We need to take the homer glasses off. BB ran up the score against the Skins - there are no ifs, ands or butts about it. Anyone who says otherwise is just dishonest - period. To borrow from college football, the skins game reminded me of the Houston days when they had Klingler and Ware, and the Florida days when Spurrier was there. The Houston coach and Spurrier were roundly criticized (people still hold a grudge against Spurrier), so pats fans should expect some flak.

BB should simply tone it down. If the pats are up by 30 in the 4th, run the ball - period. There is less than 1% chance that Brady or the WRs will get hurt if you just run. If the opposing team starts calling timeouts and throwing bombs, I have no issue with opening it up a little, but when it is clear that the opponent has mailed it in, BB should call the dogs off. College basketball coaches have no qualms about telling a player to "take the other guy out" if the team is running it up. I'm assuming pro coaches and rabid d-coordinators have no qualms about the doing the same.

Sportsmanship exists in pee wee, H.S. football, college, and yes, the Pros. Retribution also occurs in pee wee, H.S. football, college, and yes, the Pros. BB should call the dogs off a little earlier out of sportsmanship and to avoid retribution. I wouldn't worry about the colts, but celler dweller teams have nothing to lose...

There's a higher chance of injury running than throwing when the opposing team is playing the run heavy. They aren't letting up, why risk injury to the OL and RB when the SAFER play is pass?

 

[MightyFooda]

Taking a knee would have been the smart move for 2 reasons. 1) you show you're not running it up and 2) and more importantly, you don't risk injury to your stars.

That's it. How the opposing team feels about being knelt on is beside the point.

And I'm from New York City. You know, the capital of the world? The city Boston constantly takes a back seat to... Yea, that one.

Then why don't you root for your own teams then?
Oh wait, whats that?
Your a fairweather fan?
Or do you actually have a "legit" reason to root for the Colts?
And how does Boston take a back seat?
Is it Schools, mmm nope.
Hospitols? nada.
Murders? OHA YA!! thats the one!