Supposed NFL PSI Testing Question (No New info just a ?)

[ViperGTS]

I saw in the Championship Game thread someone said it would be nice to have a 1st for some of the Clemson and Bama guys.

Can someone FOIA the NFL PSI testing numbers? If so why hasn't anyon done it or if not, why?

Just a question I hadn't thought of.

 

[n1997y]

Nah, FOIA only applies to govt

 

[ViperGTS]

Nah, FOIA only applies to govt

That's right. There's gotta be something that can be done. Sitting on info that could exonerate a defendant doesn't seem kosher.

 

[smurfalarm]

That's right. There's gotta be something that can be done. Sitting on info that could exonerate a defendant doesn't seem kosher.

You'll be waiting a while if you're hoping the NFL is going to make things kosher. Roger Goodell may be demonic enough to have cloven hooves, but I don't think he chews his cud, so you're fresh out of luck.

 

[Patstopia]

Unless the NFL can leak information detrimental to the Pats game, they will keep everything quiet!

 

[jmt57]

My guess is that the NFL brought the footballs back into the officials locker room, then everybody took a bathroom break and had some hot coffee to warm up. The entourage then carefully re-read the entire section on the testing of the footballs one by one, passing the rule book around until each agreed on the proper procedure. After that there was the calibrating and testing of the equipment to be used.

About 45 minutes after entering the room the footballs were tested.

Lo and behold, all were 12.5 psi or above.

 

[bbobbo]

somebody needs to get wikileaks or anonymous on the case.

 

[BigPeteG]

I don't know why this keeps coming up. The PSI test is easily manipulated.. Just bring them inside for a few extra minutes before measuring them - and no PSI changes. You do not want the NFL to release numbers - they will release ones that make the Patriots look bad.

For example - balls measured at the Viking / GB game showed no PSI change. They could release a statement like that - and they could be telling the truth - even if its only because they measure them right before the end of halftime - when they were inside the whole time..

 

[supafly]

Yeah, no use going down this road again in my opinion. It will simply frustrate us in miserable fashion.

The picks are gone, so we'll have to manage without them. It will suck, but the team will be fine. They still have 3 selections in the top 3 rounds when you factor in the Revis comp pick.

We're also generally in a position of luxury as it pertains to having most positions filled already, so that helps a lot. I'd love to see Belichick trade up to have 2 second round selections and a third, but that may cost too much in terms of some of the mid-round/later selections.

 

[ViperGTS]

I don't know why this keeps coming up. The PSI test is easily manipulated.. Just bring them inside for a few extra minutes before measuring them - and no PSI changes. You do not want the NFL to release numbers - they will release ones that make the Patriots look bad.

For example - balls measured at the Viking / GB game showed no PSI change. They could release a statement like that - and they could be telling the truth - even if its only because they measure them right before the end of halftime - when they were inside the whole time..

Problem is they can't. Not with all the science out in the open. If their figures are off it would be so obvious that they really can't fabricate them.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Problem is they can't. Not with all the science out in the open. If their figures are off it would be so obvious that they really can't fabricate them.

They don't have to fabricate anything because there's no need for them to.

The NFL has taken the reasonable-in-a-vacuum-but-rampantly-hypocritical-in-context position that they don't care what the pressure of the balls is during the game so long as nobody was screwing with the balls.

They then came up with a completely reasonable testing protocol given their position:

1. Measure balls indoors before game.
2. Take balls inside afterwards.
3. Let them come to equilibrium
4. Measure balls again.
5. If balls are the same, great. If not, there was tampering and/or defective balls.

That is an elegant solution that makes perfect sense and simplifies things a lot. It detects the thing the NFL actually cares about -- tampering -- and eliminates the need to measure temperatures, have conversion charts that show acceptable pressures, etc. As a bonus, it is also guaranteed to never produce data that would exonerate NE, so there's no need to try to stop info from leaking, etc. They can tell the actual truth all the time without any worries that they'll be helping NE.

As I've said, if NE and Brady were never punished, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what the NFL is doing.

The problem, of course, is that the NFL is being completely hypocritical about not caring about in-game pressure now after what happened last year.

To think that this all could have been avoided if the NFL had just left all the AFCCG 1st-half balls under guard until the game was over and then measured them all. Then they all would have measured what they did pre-game and that would have been it.