Super Bowl 56 might be moved to Dallas!

[XLIX]

Calm down, man. I'm just expanding on what you wrote...

 

[Simpelton]

Eh, I'm with California on this one. CoVID doesn't care about Superbowls. We've already been stupid enough when it comes to making feelings-based exceptions to CoVID restrictions that are already looser than they should be because of muh feelings. If we ever want to put this particular genie back into the bottle we can't keep saying "but this time it's different!" Every. Single. Time.

Would probably feel different if people weren't still dying of CoVID. But they are, so there it is. Moving the festivities to a state with a criminally negligent government doesn't actually mean people won't die.

 

[XLIX]

Would probably feel different if people weren't still dying of CoVID. But they are, so there it is. Moving the festivities to a state with a criminally negligent government doesn't actually mean people won't die.

No one said anything about moving it to New York.

 

[Simpelton]

No one said anything about moving it to New York.

All of NY, FL and TX governors have blood on their hands in this thing. Probably more but those are the ones I know of.

The only Sunbelt regions I'd be OK with hosting a Superbowl and being careful about doing so are California and maaaaaaaybe Arizona. Everyone else is too deep in the pockets of businesses who don't care who dies in the name of business-as-usual.

 

[50-yard-line]

Houston put on a great Super Bowl 38. They have a Bourbon street like area downtown with bars and restaurants. The city itself inside the 610 loop is being revitalized.

Im sure there are pristine areas of LA where the police wont tolerate lawlessness.

You ever live there?

Crime (ranked 1 to 100, low to high):

Violent crime: Houston: 50.4 - LA: 29.1 - US Tot: 22.7
Property crime: Houston: 63.2 - LA: 35.1 - US Tot: 35.4

I enjoyed Houston...been there a bunch of times - Panthers fans were awesome, by the way, and yes, they did a great job with the Superbowl - but I just prefer LA. And outside of Houston, there's really nothing. In fact, outside of that one section of that physically enormous city (If Houston were plopped on top of MA, the eastern edge at Logan Airport, the western edge would be something like Gardner).

Outside of LA is the strand, and you're half an hour from South Bay, a couple of hours from Palm Springs/Joshua Tree, San Diego, Catalina...Seal Beach, Laguna.

When my wife insisted we move there part time to be near some grandkids, I hesitated and thought I'd hate it. Within three months, I knew she was right. The beaches are unreal, the hiking is amazing, the places within driving are varied and cool.

 

[XLIX]

All of NY, FL and TX governors have blood on their hands in this thing. Probably more but those are the ones I know of.

The only Sunbelt regions I'd be OK with hosting a Superbowl and being careful about doing so are California and maaaaaaaybe Arizona.

Texas is 27th in per capita deaths. Florida is 13th. Massachusetts, by the way, is 12th. (Florida's numbers are much better when adjusted for population age, but we won't get into that here)

Seems to me like your opinions are based more on ignorance and political bias than in reality (and also a very thorough lack of understanding regarding population sizes).

 

[Simpelton]

Oh come on, don't be any more ignorant than you have to be, the governors of FL and TX have been deniers from day 1 and have wasted no chances to downplay or deny the severity of this virus and here you are trusting their numbers uncritically? Even if those numbers are accurate the efforts those 2 governors went to to try and force their school systems NOT to take virus precautions makes the broad numbers meaningless.

 

[50-yard-line]

Texas is 27th in per capita deaths. Florida is 13th. Massachusetts, by the way, is 12th. (Florida's numbers are much better when adjusted for population age, but we won't get into that here)

Seems to me like your opinions are based more on ignorance and political bias than in reality (and also a very thorough lack of understanding regarding population sizes).

And yours are based on data skewed by WHEN (pre/post ability to fight back with procedure and vaccine) those deaths occurred...look at a comparison bar graph of COVID deaths per capita by state since the vaccines came into full swing (May/June) and you'll find the northeast, NY, CA, etc, all running around 90-130, with FL at 1100+. You're throwing stones in a house made of glass.

If CA had the same death rate as FL, another 35-40,000 Californians would have died.

And that's all I'm going to say on this because the mods don't want COVID discussions on the main board.

 

[Triumph]

No one said anything about moving it to New York.

Jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

 

[Triumph]

You ever live there?

Crime (ranked 1 to 100, low to high):

Violent crime: Houston: 50.4 - LA: 29.1 - US Tot: 22.7
Property crime: Houston: 63.2 - LA: 35.1 - US Tot: 35.4

I enjoyed Houston...been there a bunch of times - Panthers fans were awesome, by the way, and yes, they did a great job with the Superbowl - but I just prefer LA. And outside of Houston, there's really nothing. In fact, outside of that one section of that physically enormous city (If Houston were plopped on top of MA, the eastern edge at Logan Airport, the western edge would be something like Gardner).

Outside of LA is the strand, and you're half an hour from South Bay, a couple of hours from Palm Springs/Joshua Tree, San Diego, Catalina...Seal Beach, Laguna.

When my wife insisted we move there part time to be near some grandkids, I hesitated and thought I'd hate it. Within three months, I knew she was right. The beaches are unreal, the hiking is amazing, the places within driving are varied and cool.

Yes I lived there.

For 5 years and I was back there for 2.5 months in 2007. In 2007 I was staying at the poor end of Memorial drive just a stones throw south of I-10 west. That's where people buy 1 million dollar homes, knock them down and build 3 - 4 million dollar cribs. The # 5 ranked high school in the US was nearby.

High crime? Yes, in areas where you do not tread. Someone let MS13 in. Did you hang out in Roxbury? I didnt.

The question is why are so many people leaving California if it's such a paradise? Why go to Texas?

 

[50-yard-line]

Yes I lived there.

For 5 years and I was back there for 2.5 months in 2007. In 2007 I was staying at the poor end of Memorial drive just a stones throw south of I-10 west. That's where people buy 1 million dollar homes, knock them down and build 3 - 4 million dollar cribs. The # 5 ranked high school in the US was nearby.

High crime? Yes, in areas where you do not tread. Someone let MS13 in. Did you hang out in Roxbury? I didnt.

The question is why are so many people leaving California if it's such a paradise? Why go to Texas?

Californians got a heck of a tax hike with the 2018 tax bill, for one.

But the exodus is greatly overstated (and the newest census greatly skewed), and if you look at the data, you'll see that the people coming in have higher incomes by far than those moving out.

'Cal Exodus' debunked? UC survey finds Californians aren't leaving the state any more than usual

Believe it or not, Californians are not moving out of state as often as we thought. A University of California survey says residents are apparently staying put.

abc7.com

People are leaving mostly because it's super expensive, particularly for rent/home ownership. Add in a lot of the tech companies going remote, and people can do better in cheaper areas. If you're working class/middle class, why live in an area where rent is 3k plus for a small apartment when you can get much more and keep your job elsewhere?

I mean, when you're talking about CA, you're essentially talking about an area the size of MA to the Carolinas, with every type of geography, town size...beaches to deserts - my weather report has like 6 different forecasts for just our area (Inland Empire, Beaches, High Desert, Low Desert, the Valley, LA) every night.

And sure, a city with high crime areas? Who knew? Look at the Houston/LA comparison. St. Louis is the murder capital.

LA/SoCal isn't uniformly Nirvana, like anywhere else, but it's hardly the hellhole described by certain agenda-driven...pundits.

 

[Free_Pacman]

I’m a New England-transplant living in Los Angeles for the last 7-years. Los Angeles is an absolute hellhole, especially over the last 3 years or so. My wife is a native Angeleno and even she can’t wait to get out of Los Angeles or California in general. Beyond the ridiculous expenses of California, we have a crazed DA in Los Angeles who essentially said he’s not going to prosecute most crimes.

We will most certainly be moving when I finish my training in 2-years…probably to Texas, where I will make more money and my money will go a lot further.

 

[Callmecrazy]

Texas is 27th in per capita deaths. Florida is 13th. Massachusetts, by the way, is 12th. (Florida's numbers are much better when adjusted for population age, but we won't get into that here)

Seems to me like your opinions are based more on ignorance and political bias than in reality (and also a very thorough lack of understanding regarding population sizes).

Also when laws like looting / shoplifting are changed to not be considered a crime it kinda changes the matrix i would say

 

[XLIX]

Oh come on, don't be any more ignorant than you have to be, the governors of FL and TX have been deniers from day 1 and have wasted no chances to downplay or deny the severity of this virus and here you are trusting their numbers uncritically? Even if those numbers are accurate the efforts those 2 governors went to to try and force their school systems NOT to take virus precautions makes the broad numbers meaningless.

Texas is 27th in deaths per capita.
Massachusetts is 12th.

Oh but the MA governor is pure and virtuous and it is the TX governor who doesn't know what he is doing!

GTFO of here with your politcal partisan bullcrap. You aren't fooling anyone - except yourself.

 

[sb1]

I've felt more uneasy in parts of Chelsea and the Orange Line south of the city than anywhere I've been in LA.

 

[XLIX]

I've felt more uneasy in parts of Chelsea and the Orange Line south of the city than anywhere I've been in LA.

I have never been to LA. I have been to Houston and was... shall we say.... disappointed.

If you want to talk about safe and clean cities, nothing beats Salt Lake City. You could eat off the streets there. Everyone is walking around wearing suits and ties. I am not Mormon but the Temple is beautiful. The problem is the entire city shuts down at about 6:00 or 7:00 in the evening. I and my girlfriend were starving at 9:00 at night and couldn't find a damn thing open. No restaurants, no bars, no nothing. At 9:00.

 

[‘Mondre]

They keep bringing it to Atlanta and I don’t get it. Public transport sucks, nothing to do (there’s one good museum and the lame Coca Cola temple)… foods JUST ok.

they do have a huge airport and a lot of hotels though which I guess is why but what do you even do?

they should do more northern cities like dc (if they can build a stadium) or Chicago.