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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Rather have Gerald McCoy and we have the CAP to make that happen and he has a three years of contract so he is not a rental. They say he is diminishing....who says that? He had 6 sacks from the interior and pushes the pocket. He is a 6 time all pro playing on a miserable Team.Any realistic chance we can get him for say a 4th rounder for Thomas and a 5th as a few have speculated? Or will it be a mid rounder for Thomas straight up?
Thanks for the info. Sounds like a very good option IF they don't get one of Tillery, Simmonds or Lawrence. Since I've seen a lot of mocks that have all three going before the Pats pick, so Thomas really could be a rebuild option.Just in case you might not have know, he has been dealing with the death of his sister to suicide last year. They were very close. He was devistated.
Lot of things flying around in that young mans' head.
A move to New England away from the west coast might be an elixer.
I think he is a quality kid and is still under developed. He needs a winning atmosphere and puposeto move on.
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Agree. I forgot to mention that one.The key reason why SF was the destination is because of Hoyer. The only way to move JG at that point was to have a backup QB available who they could project to be a fit. The 49ers played ball and released him eating his entire signing bonus which in turn gave us a chance to sign him for peanuts (prorated 400k in 17' + 950k 18').
Go around the league and check how much backup QBs with the same experience as Hoyer are making.
In essence we got the 2nd round pick + saved about 8m in cap space with that trade in the last two years. There is no way BB trades JG away without securing a backup QB first.
And again this is not about being able to carry the team in case of a catastrophic injury to Brady. But not to throw the season if he were to miss a series or 3-4 games.
Here is a corker for you Cousins. Jadeveon Clowney might be in play. The Texans want to do a Frank Clark deal. Clowney is superior and if not for the injuries maybe one of the best DE's in the NFL. "Jadeveon Clowney signed a 1 year, $15,967,200 contract with the Houston Texans, including an average annual salary of $15,967,200. In 2019, Clowney will earn a base salary of $15,967,200, while carrying a cap hit of $15,967,200".I'd offer them the 38th pick in the 7th round........conditionally.....if he gets cut, we get a 7th rounder back next year
Here is a corker for you Cousins. Jadeveon Clowney might be in play. The Texans want to do a Frank Clark deal. Clowney is superior and if not for the injuries maybe one of the best DE's in the NFL. "Jadeveon Clowney signed a 1 year, $15,967,200 contract with the Houston Texans, including an average annual salary of $15,967,200. In 2019, Clowney will earn a base salary of $15,967,200, while carrying a cap hit of $15,967,200".
Clark just signed a 5 year $104mm deal....$20mm per.
Thoughts?
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Agreed. If they didn’t want to pay Jones and Flowers, why would they give up draft capital and then pay out a ton of money?So we deal 32 + 64 and would need to pay him 100+ over 5 with over 60 guaranteed?
Today, he is exactly that : just another guy. I liked JG. Maybe he becomes a VG player. Maybe he doesn’t. We don’t know. He beat up on a bunch of losing teams at the end of two seasons ago.I think you're missing the forest for the trees by just shrugging JG off as some "player that missed the entire season" as if injuries aren't a part of the sport and he's just another guy
Thanks for the info. Sounds like a very good option IF they don't get one of Tillery, Simmonds or Lawrence. Since I've seen a lot of mocks that have all three going before the Pats pick, so Thomas really could be a rebuild option.
I thought 3 was high for him when he was drafted, but he definitely was a top 12 pick. That kind of talent is rare, and well worth the risk of one of our comp 3's in return for the risk.
A couple of things since I have you on the line. I just saw the BR 7 round mock. They have Andy Isabella going in the FIFTH. Is that a possibility him dropping that low?
Second, what do you think about Anthony Nelson the DE from Iowa? How do you compare him to Allen the BC kid? And finally where is his draft range> . BR had us taking the Polite kid from FL, what do you have on him outside of a really bad combine result.
We don't have to match the Clark deal but Clowney is a better player with no baggage that Clark had (domestic)So we deal 32 + 64 and would need to pay him 100+ over 5 with over 60 guaranteed?
I love Jones and Flowers but Clowney was the #1 pick in the Draft for a reason. Better than both. Injuries have kept him down. Can be a Hall of Fame type. Been in the League 5 Years. 3 as All pro. 18.5 Sacks the last two years and 42 QB hits!!!!!!Agreed. If they didn’t want to pay Jones and Flowers, why would they give up draft capital and then pay out a ton of money?
You can say the same thing about not paying Butler and then hauling out the Brinks truck for Gilmore. It's not that BB won't pay big money, it's WHO he pays that big money to, and what position they play. Just look in the past on who BB paid big money to. All quality guys at key positions.Agreed. If they didn’t want to pay Jones and Flowers, why would they give up draft capital and then pay out a ton of money?
Clowney will want at least $18M a year. Flowers set that market and all the other top DE’s went over that.I love Jones and Flowers but Clowny was the #1 pick in the Draft for a reason. Better than both. Injuries have kept him down. Can be a Hall of Fame type. Been in the League 5 Years. 3 as All pro. 18.5 Sacks the last two years and 42 QB hits!!!!!!
You have to game plan for Clowney. Perhaps not as much for the other two.
Can't see Texans letting him go.....but I am all in if the do.
McCoy is much more realistic.
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Yep. Or how about letting Talib walk for Revis?You can say the same thing about not paying Butler and then hauling out the Brinks truck for Gilmore. It's not that BB won't pay big money, it's WHO he pays that big money to, and what position they play. Just look in the past on who BB paid big money to. All quality guys at key positions.
And while Jones has turned out to be a quality guy who has been reliable AND a high producer. It certainly didn't look that way in that off season before he was shipped out of town.
Time will tell I guessSo far he is just another guy and one that seems injury prone.
McCoy is good now and not really a reclamation project.Clowney will want at least $18M a year. Flowers set that market and all the other top DE’s went over that.
But I could see a McCoy reclamation project if he’s released.
Yep. Or how about letting Talib walk for Revis?
Yeah poor choice of words. What I meant was that he’d be brought back from obscurity playing for that crappy team. He’d elevate his play going to a good team.McCoy is good now and not really a reclamation project.
Caphit of 7.7 million, folks.
If we get him for cheap it might be on the table but doesn't scream no brainer either.
Would rather have Solomon Grundy
Sounds like the perfect Gronk replacement too.Superhuman strength and stamina
Virtually indestructible and with tremendous healing ability
Something like 9 feet tall
Is not going to age out of the league
I'm on board with him at DT. BB will just have to keep him in line.