Schefter: Bill Belichick & Patriots to Part Ways

[venecol]

A major positive out of this, we finally get rid of the Joe Judge stank.

 

[festy1986]

Thank you for making my point.

What's so hard to understand about this.

I was using the Steelers as an example of what we don't want to be. Patchwork fixes, forever. 599, and no playoff wins in many years.

Agreed.

 

[venecol]

Kraft at the end of conference says thank you all for being part of this celebration. What? Lol

 

[lancerman]

Forget about Bill.

Kraft needs to be on record in every which way why he did this so when his team is ass next year because he hired a first time defensive coach to run the place and Bill is heading to the Super Bowl we can all point to him as the problem.

He chose Bill over Brady. He couldn't even stand by they decision?

Weak man.

Kraft's the owner, it doesn't matter. The team is ass now. This was the time to reset if we ever were. High draft pick, tons of cap space, it sets up the next regime well.

 

[Redman443]

they said pretty much all that needed to be said at that presser. At the end of the day the NFL is a business and we have not been winning for almost 5 years. Mostly because of bills personnel decisions. A gm was never an option. Having said that I’ll root for bill to succeed where ever he goes as long as he’s not playing us

 

[festy1986]

Kraft's the owner, it doesn't matter. The team is ass now. This was the time to reset if we ever were. High draft pick, tons of cap space, it sets up the next regime well.

It matters immensely. You don't replace the greatest defensive mind with a defensive coach.

You're not gonna make that work.

They needed to go offensive with the hire and it's not gonna take long for it to show up.

 

[VrabelJr]

Kraft's the owner, it doesn't matter. The team is ass now. This was the time to reset if we ever were. High draft pick, tons of cap space, it sets up the next regime well.

Yeah I'm stoked to have some unknowns come in and waste our highest draft picks in over 25 years.

 

[nextsuperstar]

I really wonder if Stevie Jr. will be considered independent of Bill? Is there any chance he stays in any capacity?

Or - will Stevie be an automatic assumption for wherever Bill goes?

Steve Belichick’s defenses were the only thing that worked over the last few seasons. He should be looking to get a DC role somewhere to show the success of that unit was him not his father.

 

[sb1]

I hope Bill does retire tbh. Doesn't have much to prove now.

And he can start spilling tea on Goodell and the league now that he doesn't have to be in character anymore.

 

[Uptown]

Wowwwwwwwwwwww..I don’t want Bill to depart, but such is life..Coaches like him only come around once in a lifetime. One of the top 3 coaches of all time, but his work during the salary cap era (IMHO) catapults him to the top. There are no words to describe the job he’s done since his arrival. It’s been an honor/pleasure Coach.

“We’re onto retirement….”

 

[jdlboot14]

A major positive out of this, we finally get rid of the Joe Judge stank.

You'd have to assume Judge, Achord, Brown, and both Belichick's are gone.
And unless BOB stays as HC or OC, most of the offense asst. coaches too.

 

[grux]

Thank you BB for all your hard work that resulted in 6 Lombardi's and 20 years of greatness. You are the GOAT.

 

[203Pat]

Did they though? I saw improvement to the offensive line towards the end of the season, when they put a sub par Qb in there they hung with the Chiefs and Bills. Of course they are going to be even better next year whether BB was here or not, they have Judon and Gonzales coming back. They have the 3rd pick in the draft and a early pick in each of the other rounds which is pretty much gold. The next coach is basically set up for success. BB would of been just fine.

Yes they did. They won 4 games. The "improvement" in the offensive line was having a QB with at least some element of mobility. Bill picked the subpar QB and then hamstrung him with dysfunctional coordinators and below average skill guys. So outside of completely giving up control to pick offensive players, coach them, and have any input into the offense whatsoever why would you expect much difference from the next quarterback if Bill was running the show he did in 2023?

 

[Rob0729]

Rebuilding is more a matter of collecting talent rather your record.

A lot of teams use a short-term approach to get back to 9-8 to show incremental improvement.

But hiding behind that short-term improvement is the rot beneath it.

Heck, the Patriots took a 6-10 record and showed improvement to 10-7, but all during that time we had 7 starters on D who were very old and very slow.

Belichick immediately turn around the Patriots when he got here. That doesn't mean that team wasn't still rebuilding. Heck, they went 9-7 in his 3rd year which showed they were still getting the players in place.

McDaniels in Miami inherited a much different team, and also Campbell in Detroit. Look at the draft capital of these teams. Many high top 10 draft picks, years of losing. This is the first time we've picked in the top 5 for 20+ years

The Pats have been mostly failures in the draft and free agency in recent years. We have maybe a half dozen players to build around. And that may be generous. We have exactly two young players who are potential studs and not actual studs in Barmore and Gonzalez. We are at the beginning of a rebuild. We are at the end of our first failed rebuild and onto the second one.

And in 2001, Belichick had the luxury of picking up a lot older players and hidden gems to quickly to build the team. It was because at the time, teams didn't see the value in these types of players and Belichick did. So he could turn around the Patriots overnight. That ain't happening in 2024.

And Miami turned the #3 pick into three first round picks that they turned into Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, and Bradley Chubb. All of whom were big impacts to the team this year. Hill and Waddle are a huge reason why the Dolphins were so good on offense this year. Why can't the Pats do something similar with their #3?

 

[Wax Frog]

Today is the first time in over two decades having "that" feeling back. The feeling where you don't feel like we can win the Super Bowl and that anything can happen. This was a big mistake. He was going to retire in at least three years and we would be better off doing a good transition.

I don't think the next GM and HC matter at all. BB's finger prints are all over the organization and wiping all of them off is going to expose a lot of things the next regime won't be able to handle. All the fans that want a "young, innotivative" coach can enjoy all the innovative ways that person finds to lose. As a fan I hope I'm wrong and will cheer for whoever is next but I'll be happy to see BB win a ring elsewhere.

This franchise was better off when nobody knew who Robert Kraft was. His desire to be in the limelight and a cool guy is the problem.

 

[203Pat]

Progress isn't linear.

prog·ress - forward or onward movement toward a destination.

Was the destination to have a worse record year after year with Mac? If so then I guess that's progress.

 

[VrabelJr]

prog·ress - forward or onward movement toward a destination.

Was the destination to have a worse record year after year with Mac? If so then I guess that's progress.

Next look up what the words orientation means.

 

[BobDigital]

Can't say I've seen it often, cause i don't follow other team's 'coaching transitions' but how often does an outgoing coach get a press conference with the owner with them publicly saying they are 'mutually parting ways', This is pretty damn rare is it not? Must be hard for BB after saying what he did publicly about being under contract and willing to reduce his role.

Makes me wonder what was going on there, I don't think Robert kept him completely in the dark about his wishes or the way the wind was blowing. It only makes this more of a lie than we already know it was. Also, for a guy who doesn't talk much to the media, it seems like he was almost trying to use it to pressure Kraft to keep him. Which is very odd.

 

[203Pat]

Next look up what the words orientation means.

We can argue about what words mean all day. Bill ultimately did this to himself. He straddled the line between rebuilding and reloading after Brady left and wasn't able to do either. Running Brady out of town. The mismanagement of the offensive line. Bad drafts. Bad free agent signings. Making a DC an OC. A complete regression in your first round QB. Those last two alone would have gotten any of the other 31 coaches fired before now. I appreciate what Bill here but it is time to evolve with the way the game is played now. We need athletes on offense. We need a modern offense and a QB with the physical skills to run it. It was time.

 

[Jlaff]

Reiss confirms.

End of an era.

Wait, Adam Schefter and Reiss each used each other as the source.