Roger Goodell Press Conf [mergedx2]

[BradyFTW!]

Re: Goodell on NFLN talking about Pats

LOL, this is what Tomlinson said and the media and pats fans flamed him for it. Now they are agreeing with it.

No, Pats fans are not agreeing with wht LT said. The Pats didn't cheat, any more than someone who commits a pass interference or holds is 'cheating' so therefore the statement doesn't apply. The broke a rule and were punished.

 

[Imperator]

Re: Goodell said the SB's weren't tainted, right?

Because every news outlet outside of the Herald is not even acknowledging this tiny, insignificant little admission. Anyone else think the media refuses to admit defeat on this one?

They're just going to brush it under the rug. Fans (and bloggers, etc) from other teams however, will harp on Goodell for his statements and assume this proves their paranoid delusions of a League-Patriots conspiracy.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: Goodell said the SB's weren't tainted, right?

To the mods that merged this: my thread wasn't about the press conference. Goodell was just on NFLN talking with the anchors there, and they talked further about the issue. Different events.

 

[djmika760]

Re: Goodell on NFLN talking about Pats

LOL, this is what Tomlinson said and the media and pats fans flamed him for it. Now they are agreeing with it.

LT could say that BB is the best coach ever and still catch some guff from NE fans. That's just the way it is. NE fans hate LT, Manning(s), Merriman, Ocho, Favre, Romo...etc. And the rest hate NE cause the TEAM is great. Jealousy breeds hate...on BOTH sides.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Everytime Spygate is mentioned before the game, the Patriots margin of victory rises by 3.

 

[Patti37]

Re: Roger Goodell Press Conf

so then why take away a 1rd draft pick? i agree with him, the pats didnt gain any competetive advantage, however, why were they punished so harshly then? just b/c they were on the wrong spot on the field?

im asking cuz thats the excuse all the haters are using now, u say the pats didnt cheat, they ask why were they dogged a first round pick?

myself it should have been a 3rd pick, just for going against it, but it was pathetic how goodell tried to shut everyone up by taking away a 1st round pick, when in fact the opposite happened

In his interview with the NFL network, Goodell said the punishment was so harsh because he wanted to make sure the Patriots or any other team never did it again...that the punishment had to be painful.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Re: Roger Goodell Press Conf

I was surprised at how direct some of his answers were.

"every team knows its signals are being stolen by other teams"

"every team takes measures during a game knowing their signals are being stolen"

"on one tape, an opposing coach is seen waving at the camera"


"the Patriots gained no competitive advantage from those tapes"

He said the above statement at least 3 times.

It seems some are disappointed by his answers and keep asking the same stupid thing over and over.

I wish he had been this direct over the impact, or lack thereof, of these tapes back in Sept.

Excellent. This is exactly what I hoped would happen.

Earlier this season Goodell tried to bury this story - for obvious reasons. He did not want to publically accentuate the signal stealing that is common place - stealing that he condones.

He made the only strategic decision he could with this being brought up now. Fess up as to what the reality in the NFL is - and that certainly helps vindicate the Patriots, as there remain a great many among the public that think signal stealing is abhorrent and think the Patriots are dirty because of it.

Tell them the distinction with the Patriots is an obscure rule that allows binocolars but not a videocamera - even though videocameras are allowed to be used by teams in the stands... and you really begin to lose people - their righteousness goes right out the window.

This is the best of both worlds - raise Spygate days before the game and rally the team - and largely vindicate the team at the same time.

Nice!

 

[PatsFanInVa]

djmika, actually that was a pretty cogent observation. We do hate Lord Favre, Lady Tom, Satan Manning, et al, and we wouldn't if they were suck-***** nobodies... just like nobody hates the Houston Texans. Why waste a perfectly good hate-on on them?

Fellow Pats Fans: Don't be dum-dums.

This isn't going to vindicate the Pats in the eyes of the rest of the nation. Other teams' fans were whining and complaining about how light the Pats got off when they were fined the maximum possible and lost an unprecedented first round pick.

This is going to be seen as how the League is protecting their poster-franchise, the New England Cheatriots, against the harsh light of day. That is to say, the league won't want to testify and will hold pressers etc. like today's.

Meanwhile, politics grinds on. Specter's not up for reelection until 2010. But think about it: The Great State of Pennsylvania boasts two NFL franchises, and two cities of any size. Both had their respective, collective heart broken by you-know-who. Both boasted prodigious crops of losers jumping the Second Chance Express, from Hines "It was like he was in our huddle" Ward, to Runo Mahe and Donovan "I cant run a two minute drill but give me a ring" McNabb.

Believe it or not, Steelers and Eagles fans feel about their players the way we feel about ours, except for the air of invincibility part. They WANT to believe they REALLY should have won.

And Specter wants to be the guy fighting for HIS football constituency against all others.

We'll see what the rest of the committee thinks... guys like Kennedy and Leahy. I would hope Specter gets laughed out of the room, but we shall see.

The classic "disgruntled employee" guy wants someone to accept all his legal fees for squeeling, and since real papers/magazines/news shows won't do that, that leaves him the checkbook journalists. He stands to make a pretty penny just for telling stories. I don't know if he's got any tapes... he hasn't really hinted that he does. Again, it remains to be seen.

It's not over, boys and girls, not by a long shot. And every other team's fans are going to froth at the mouth as long as there's some Putz who wants to keep this on-camera.

For the rest of the county, we're the Dark Side. Embrace it.

Darth PFnVius

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: Goodell on NFLN talking about Pats

LT could say that BB is the best coach ever and still catch some guff from NE fans. That's just the way it is. NE fans hate LT, Manning(s), Merriman, Ocho, Favre, Romo...etc. And the rest hate NE cause the TEAM is great. Jealousy breeds hate...on BOTH sides.

As far as I'm aware, most NE fans have no problem with Eli Manning, Chad Johnson, Favre, or Romo.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Re: Goodell on NFLN talking about Pats

As far as I'm aware, most NE fans have no problem with Eli Manning, Chad Johnson, Favre, or Romo.

I have a huge problem with Favre. I've spent the last 3 offseasons hearing him ruminate about retirement. I watched him piss and moan about his own receiver for holding out... which is management's place, not his. I got sick and tired of him being the tail that wags the dog up in GB, but as long as their minds are basically swiss cheese, as represented by their wedge shaped head gear, it's not really important what I think. Green Bay loves Favre. Green Bay WANTS to hang on his retirement ruminations. Eh to hell with it. Not my call.

But do I have a problem with him? Oh HELL yes! I'd hate for him to be my QB... unless the choice was someone not named Tom Brady.

PFnV

 

[Isaac]

Three other thoughts on this press conference:
- Did I catch it right that Goodell said that at least one of the 6 tapes were from the 2007 preseason?!? What the hell was BB taping preseason games for? That's awesome.
- Anyone else notice that there wasn't a single reporter asking the Pro-Patriots questions? E.g. "Couldn't someone do the same thing from the press box legally? Wasn't this essentially legal until 2006? etc." Of course that's supposed to be the role of the Boston Media--too bad someone from the hometown didn't stick up for the home team.
- One of the first questions about spygate was "why did they do it?". Goodell said you'd have to ask the Patriots. Nice.

 

[psychoPat]

Slick Roger didn't have the cajones to say this in September.
Didn't dare try to cross the media firestorm that was incinerating this honorable man's reputation
... and crucifying the top team of the modern era
and letting numbskulls impugn all their accomplishments.

Goodell has a lot of work ahead of him
if he expects to ever redeem HIS OWN reputation!

 

[patpatriot]

This "news" is leaked by a NY paper 2 days before the SB? This is going to backfire on the Giants big-time. Remember the first San Diego game after the Spygate scandal broke out? This is going to be instant replay. The pats are now going to *crush* the Giants!

 

[TN Patriot]

Three other thoughts on this press conference:
- Did I catch it right that Goodell said that at least one of the 6 tapes were from the 2007 preseason?!? What the hell was BB taping preseason games for? That's awesome.
- Anyone else notice that there wasn't a single reporter asking the Pro-Patriots questions? E.g. "Couldn't someone do the same thing from the press box legally? Wasn't this essentially legal until 2006? etc." Of course that's supposed to be the role of the Boston Media--too bad someone from the hometown didn't stick up for the home team.
- One of the first questions about spygate was "why did they do it?". Goodell said you'd have to ask the Patriots. Nice.

To my recollection cameras in the press box aren't allowed either.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Re: Roger Goodell Press Conf

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Originally Posted by consecotorca
if he doesn't even know the pats played the eagles in the 03-04 regular season, how can anyone trust he's hiding more than he lets on? this all smells very fishy, especially with robby kraft's ties to the league.

They were two, separately asked questions. Getting your hopes dashed must suck, eh? Kinda like finding out there's no real Santy Claus?

The DEEPLY disturbing question that arises from posts like consecotorca is why is that so many are actually disappointed the Patriots have been proven to not have cheated? I find it amazing that there are so many people who wished & hoped for the Patriots to have been publicly humiliated.

So now I wonder if there are millions of Patriot Haters walking around depressed.