Reiss:Similarities to 2010 a notable history lesson for team

[blackglass3]

Stop being in denial... We also beat the Super Bowl champion packers 31-28.

Speaking of denial, we beat Matt Flynn because Rodgers was hurt, and we still needed a fluke play to win it. Aaron Rodgers would have marched his team up and down our field at will like the Saints did the year before.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Speaking of denial, we beat Matt Flynn because Rodgers was hurt, and we still needed a fluke play to win it. Aaron Rodgers would have marched his team up and down our field at will like the Saints did the year before.

Give it up. We went 14-2 that year. We defeated 5 out of the 6 afc playoff teams, some of which in dominating fashion. We defeated both NFC finalists, one of those wins on the road in dominating fashion.

Again we went 14-2, we were the best team in the league in 2010. We choked end of story.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Quite amazing how certain posters on here like to rewrite history. After week 17 in 2010, posters were stating our team was unbeatable and had dominated the entire league that year.

Now 6 years later it's "they weren't that good"

 

[neali]

The 2010 Jets were a good team and a divisional opponent is always tough. For everyone that calls the divisional loss in 2010 a monumental choke by the Pats, was the 2001 Superbowl a monumental choke by the Rams, or did a scrappy less talented team beat a better team. Was the 2001 AFC championship home loss by the 13-3 Steelers a monumental choke? Any given Sunday.

 

[deroc5050]

Give it up. We went 14-2 that year. We defeated 5 out of the 6 afc playoff teams, some of which in dominating fashion. We defeated both NFC finalists, one of those wins on the road in dominating fashion.

Again we went 14-2, we were the best team in the league in 2010. We choked end of story.

Welker was a huge part of the offense.. a questionable decision by Bill to bench Welker for the feet jokes might have costed them the game. Brady barely ever through INT's the whole season 3rd best TD/INT in league history and that was partly because his comfort blanket Wes was sitting on the bench.. when he threw the pick.

That 2010 team was not as good as this one. Even still I can't believe they blew that game to the Jets.. monumental failure. Epic.. 1 of the worst losses in Patriots history.

 

[deroc5050]

The 2010 Jets were a good team and a divisional opponent is always tough. For everyone that calls the divisional loss in 2010 a monumental choke by the Pats, was the 2001 Superbowl a monumental choke by the Rams, or did a scrappy less talented team beat a better team. Was the 2001 AFC championship home loss by the 13-3 Steelers a monumental choke? Any given Sunday.

I think the Steelers just got beat.. there QB sucked in 2001.

The Rams choked.. and I am really glad they did. If that game was 5 minutes longer in the Super Bowl chances are we wouldn't have won.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

To put it very simply, WE CAN RUN THE BALL!!! In 2010 Rex flooded the middle zones and had Revis take away our number 1.

Try dropping 8 in coverage now and we'll run right over you. We also have legit outside receivers who can take the top off of any D who decides to try to force Brady outside.

I'm more excited about this offence then any since 2007, not in terms of talent, but in terms of how multiple we can be. We have a bruising running game, we have shifty backs for the passing game, we got Edelman and Bennett for the short inside attack, we got Mitchell, Hogan, and now Floyd who can stretch the D on the outside. D coordinators will lose a lot of sleep facing this O.

Yeah that about sums it up. LG would have had about about 800 yards in that game.

Also, perhaps we can expect Chung not to try that fake punt thingy.

It's amazing how Jets, Rex, and Patriots fans are haunted by that game. Thank god for the Giants thing.

 

[sb1]

No they weren't.

The game vs the NYJ proved it.

If they played BAL the same thing would have happened.

3rd down D was last in the NFL and was not stout vs the run. They lived and died by the TO all year and needed to score more than 30 to win and when that didn't happen, the game was tight.

With that said, the 2016 blows the 2010 team out of the water on every level.

Yep.

I just rewatched some of it on that youtube link. I'm sorry but that defense was trash. There is no way they compare in any way to this year's defense. It was hard to watch. And let's face it - Law Firm did not give the Pats a viable running game. It was painfully obvious.

Of course the coaching blunders like the fake punt and 4th and 13 didn't help and Brady didn't have a good game either.

Much easier to be objective now than back in the day in that moment.

 

[sb1]

Give it up. We went 14-2 that year. We defeated 5 out of the 6 afc playoff teams, some of which in dominating fashion. We defeated both NFC finalists, one of those wins on the road in dominating fashion.

Again we went 14-2, we were the best team in the league in 2010. We choked end of story.

They were a paper tiger, completely exposed by the Jets. They weren't beating PIT a second time.

 

[bradydaman29]

Yep.

I just rewatched some of it on that youtube link. I'm sorry but that defense was trash. There is no way they compare in any way to this year's defense. It was hard to watch. And let's face it - Law Firm did not give the Pats a viable running game. It was painfully obvious.

Of course the coaching blunders like the fake punt and 4th and 13 didn't help and Brady didn't have a good game either.

Much easier to be objective now than back in the day in that moment.

I really didn't understand why BB benched WW. The Jets were doing lots of talking like they always do and WW found a creative way to give it back. I thought BB should have just said what he always says "I didn't listen to the interview" and let WW play from the start. That would have been a great way for BB to stick it to Ryan - just play dumb. Bad coaching move, I wonder if he regrets it.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

They were a paper tiger, completely exposed by the Jets. They weren't beating PIT a second time.

Brady carved Pittsburgh up like a thanksgiving turkey, in Pitt. Brady would have thrashed them in foxboro a second time. Just like he always does.

 

[sb1]

A lot of revisionist history here. That 2010 team was by far the best team in the NFL that season. The final four teams of the postseason that year, the patriots managed to go 4-1 against them during the regular season. They dominated the New York jets 45-3, dismantled the bears 36-7 in Chicago, and trounced the big bad steelers 39-26 in Pittsburgh. They also defeated Green Bay. That postseason was a choke job, epic choke.

You mean defeated* Green Bay. You know why the asterisk is there.

Sure...blowing a 14-2 season with a one and done is a choke by definition, but saying that the Pats were a great team then is just not true.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

You mean defeated* Green Bay. You know why the asterisk is there.

Sure...blowing a 14-2 season with a one and done is a choke by definition, but saying that the Pats were a great team then is just not true.

The 2010 patriots were the heavy favorites to make the super bowl and win it going into the postseason. True or false?

 

[sb1]

Brady carved Pittsburgh up like a thanksgiving turkey, in Pitt. Brady would have thrashed them in foxboro a second time. Just like he always does.

Brady always loses in Denver, and the Pats always had trouble vs the Ravens. How did that turn out this year? Past history has no relevance to the next game.

Nope...PIT would have clownstomped them and the score would have been uglier than this game. Really... that Jets playoff game was no different than the #1 ranked Steeler defense getting clobbered by Tebow in the playoffs.

It hurt to hear Bart Scott say what he said but he was right, they were terrible and they couldn't stop a nosebleed. If Mark Sanchez roasted them then Ben would have been licking his chops.

 

[sb1]

The 2010 patriots were the heavy favorites to make the super bowl and win it going into the postseason. True or false?

Being the favorite is perception not reality.

There were lots of warning signs during the season that all was not what it seemed. Matt Flynn taking this team to school in Foxboro was one of them. Getting annihilated by Peyton Hillis in Cleveland was another.

Call it a choke if you must but let's not pretend the Patriots were a great team because they simply weren't. They were a one man show and weren't the first team to be that way.

 

[SVN]

Getting annihilated by Peyton Hillis in Cleveland was another.

Pats won all the games after that . By that token we got killed by KC in 2014. One bad games doesnt make the team crap. Anyhow the point is, that team had holes which got exposed now as we see it 6 yrs later. Not a single person at that time suggested they were paper tigers or not SB favorites. Very similar to what is now. 2016 maybe a better team but the public perception now with the 2016 being the best in the league is the same as 2010. Doesn't mean we will have the same fate but you can definitely poke holes if you want in this team and defense if you want to e.g the defense in the seattle game or that we beat pitts without ben and bills without McCoy or a putrid jets/SF/rams team. Doesn't mean we couldnt have won those games anyway but the final result can change perspectives of teams of that year.
IMO 2010 we had a great chance to at least get to the SB. Maybe we wouldve lost to GB but the AFC coast was clear and handed on a platter just like this year.

 

[Deus Irae]

Its not even close. 2016 would blow that team out of the water.

The 2010 team was a nice team to start the new dynasty. New attitude. New culture

Its become painfully obvious the 2010 team has massive deficiencies on defense, the run game and play-making on the outside. Defensively they had no one who could cover. Other than VW, Mayo, Chung and DMC they had a lot of smoke and mirrors.

Ridiculous revisionist history

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

Any game can be won or lost, good teams lose to teams they should beat every week.

The 2010 defense gave up 313 points and created 38 turnovers.
The 2016 defense gave up 250 points and created 23 turnovers.

So the 2016 team created 15 fewer turnovers and allowed 63 fewer points.

The 2010 offense scored 518 points and turned the ball over 10 times.
The 2016 offense scored 441 points and turned the ball over 11 times.

2010 scored 77 more points with one less turnover.

2010 205 point differential, they scored 1.65 for every point the opponent scored.
2016 191 point differential, they scored 1.76 for every point the opponent scored

2010 was the season BJGE didn't fumble once, plus Brady's 4 int season made for an incredible TO ratio.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Ridiculous revisionist history

I'm not wrong. All were proven vs the Jets.

That was a pourus defense. Last in the league on 3rd down and that's exactly what Sanchez exposed.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yep.

I just rewatched some of it on that youtube link. I'm sorry but that defense was trash. There is no way they compare in any way to this year's defense. It was hard to watch. And let's face it - Law Firm did not give the Pats a viable running game. It was painfully obvious.

Of course the coaching blunders like the fake punt and 4th and 13 didn't help and Brady didn't have a good game either.

Much easier to be objective now than back in the day in that moment.

They were a good team but had flaws and the Jets exposed them.