Prisco throwing out some bombs on EEI

[VrabelMayeWin]

a couple of losing seasons would not be enough to fire Belichick.. Belchick has earned a lifetime deal with the Krafts, and he can coach as long as he wants to coach...

Not to mention that even one losing season appears to be a long, long way off.

 

[c_nice_37]

I think the poster took Prisco's statements to the extreme.

1. BB contract was speculation and that is all D&C were trying to get out of him. If NE had a few losing seasons, would it be unreasonable to see Kraft give BB the axe, etc.

2. Seymour's quote is what it is. Read into if if you'd like, or just understand the respect he has for Dungy. I didn't think it had much to do with BB, but I am drinking the Kool Aid.

3. Seymour has a family, wow, he wants to spend an extra month with them, he must also inherently hate his coach.

My $0.02

 

[fair catch fryar]

Kraft seems like a very astute businessman from how he runs the Patriots to his dealings outside of football. I'm attributing the RUMORS about Kraft's wife not liking BB's image to just that...RUMORS. Kraft would not fire BB for this. I say BB leaves on his own terms when he wants to leave. What's next? Mrs. Kraft doesn't like Tom Brady's image as a Hollywood socialite that has children out of wedlock. OMG!! What a horrible young man!! What will all the young kids out there think?

 

[upstater1]

The point is that Belichick WANTS his contract to be all his.

If he announced a new mega deal before the divorce was complete, his wife's legal hand would be strengthened considerably.

Whether he announces it or not is irrelevant. She gets to subpoena all his records. She also get s a percentage of FUTURE earnings. Unless there's a prenup, she gets it whether BB likes it or not.

 

[solman]

Kraft canNOT hide BB's contract from a divorce proceeding. If the Patriots were not forthcoming, then the info would be subpoened.

BB doesn't HAVE a new contract. You can't subpoena a contract that doesn't exist yet, and won't exist until the divorce is finalized.

 

[PatsMyBoyz!]

a couple of losing seasons would not be enough to fire Belichick.. Belchick has earned a lifetime deal with the Krafts, and he can coach as long as he wants to coach...

JMVHO but I find any discussion of firing Belichick to be ludicrous. There are a lot of people who don't like Belichick but that hasn't stopped him. What would he have to do to warrant being fired? It certainly won't be a couple of losing seasons,which he hasn't even had yet in the strictest sense of the word. He'll eventually retire which is a far cry from being "fired".
There's the whole Pioli relationship,too. I'm going to give Bob Kraft more credit than this,Myra notwithstanding.
Can you imagine BB out there on the market? Half the talented teams in this league flounder for one reason-coaching. I'd hate to see BB in SD.
Patriotgate continues...:bricks:

 

[upstater1]

BB doesn't HAVE a new contract. You can't subpoena a contract that doesn't exist yet, and won't exist until the divorce is finalized.

Oh, we know this? We know that BBs contract ends this year? Seems pretty risky for Kraft to go along with BBs divorce schemes. I highly doubt this idea, and even if it were true...

Even then, the ex-spouse is entitled to a percentage of all future earnings.

Ah, the wonders of divorce.

This is how alimony works.

 

[solman]

She also get s a percentage of FUTURE earnings. Unless there's a prenup, she gets it whether BB likes it or not.

Its a lot more complicated than that.

In most similar cases (big salary, irregular profession) a flat dollar amount is arrived at, and then paid out with interest out of the marital assets and a percentage of future earnings.

The dollar figure is based on many factors, but most importantly a calculation of BB's enhanced earnings capacity. In many cases, a third party which specializes in such analysis will be hired by the litigants to determine this. These firms often specialize in EEC for lawyers or doctors. I don't know where they will find one for three time superbowl winning coaches, but however it is determined, it will likely involve analyzing the current coaching market, talking to Kraft, and looking at BB's current contract.

If BB and Kraft hold off on an agreement until after the divorce is finalized, BB's ultimate liability could be reduced substantially.

The very least that we can say, is that if BB signed a 5 year guaranteed $50M contract tomorrow, his wife would be guaranteed to get more money.

 

[Patriotic Fervor]

Oh, we know this? We know that BBs contract ends this year? Seems pretty risky for Kraft to go along with BBs divorce schemes. I highly doubt this idea, and even if it were true...

Even then, the ex-spouse is entitled to a percentage of all future earnings.

Ah, the wonders of divorce.

This is how alimony works.

At least until she remarries, if indeed she ever does.

 

[solman]

Oh, we know this? We know that BBs contract ends this year? Seems pretty risky for Kraft to go along with BBs divorce schemes. I highly doubt this idea, and even if it were true...

Its true that we don't know that BB hasn't signed a new contract.

But as far as it being risking for Kraft to go along with whatever BB proposes...

I think its a lot more risky for Kraft NOT to go along with whatever BB proposes.

This is how alimony works.

Alimony, and divorce proceedings in general, work differently for the super rich.

 

[Hoodie]

Prisco obviously didn't read the Globe article on BB a few weeks back. http://www.boston.com/yourlife/articles/2007/03/04/after_a_bruising_year_belichick_opens_up/

Kraft said he hadn't talked with BB about the off-field stuff and was quoted as saying he tries not to judge people because you never know what's going on with someone's personal life. But that he did know that after football the most important thing to BB was family and he respected that.

As far as the tabloid accounts of Belichick's role in the New Jersey divorce case, Kraft says he hasn't spoken to him about it. "I also try not to sit in judgment of anybody, because no one knows anyone's personal life," Kraft said. "All I can say is I think Bill's main focus after football matters are his children, and I have a great deal of respect for that."

Also BB said he was divorced. It was official last summer. This is a done deal and they managed to keep it quiet and congenial. I just read an article where BB is incredibly complimentary to the former Mrs. B and saying how lucky he was that she did such a great job raising the kids.

He did volunteer that he and his wife divorced last summer. She lives in Weston, he in Hingham.

 

[Rob0729]

It was always my understanding that Seymour has never participated in offseason workouts opting to workout at home in SC. I don't think this is anything new.

 

[upstater1]

Its true that we don't know that BB hasn't signed a new contract.

But as far as it being risking for Kraft to go along with whatever BB proposes...

I think its a lot more risky for Kraft NOT to go along with whatever BB proposes.



Alimony, and divorce proceedings in general, work differently for the super rich.

Nope. The super rich do prenups. Belichick made about $6000 a year (per a recent article) when he married his wife. That's not super rich in my book.

 

[PatrioticDynasty]

This is all Elephant crap, I mean come on people, can we start the draft today, please.....

IMO, I think prisco is headed the way of the Borges, down a slow spiral to hell with nothing to hold onto.
Can you honestly look at those statements and warrant ANY truth, or semblance there of for that matter. Oh wait, here is one for ya, we actually have BB fired because he drafted a QB who loves to impregnate every supermodel so he can sign a whole team of future super-mutant clones named Brady!
This would be more ridiculous than George Forman naming all his kids George. Can you imagine the play calling? "Brady - set - Brady 7, Brady 2- set set, Brady 3 - Brady1 - hike!"
It would be like my favorite cartoon: first base bugs bunny, second base bugs bunny, third-bugs bunny, etc.

There is nothing these so called sports media experts like to do more than to stir up the proverbial pot when there is nothing but rumors, and speculation abound.

IMO, these guys should run for office because they spin better than what's there now.

PD.

 

[TomPatriot]

I love the way the media tries to paint Myra Kraft as the "morality" police. It just isn't so. This all comes from YEARS ago when she objected to the Pats drafting a kid who was accused of RAPING someone. I think she might have had a point. .

His name was Christian Peter from Nebraska who went on to a so-so carerr.

 

[Caspir]

Kraft canNOT hide BB's contract from a divorce proceeding. If the Patriots were not forthcoming, then the info would be subpoened.

No, but that could be the reason why Belichick is (allegedly) only signed to one year contracts. If he signed a five year $50m contract tomorrow and his wife divorced him, she'd bank $25m off the top of that. If he's on a one year $8m contract every year, she can only take half of the $8m because that's all there is. Then they can work out what she'll get off of any new deal. Regardless of that, it would be significantly less than 50% of it.

 

[solman]

Nope. The super rich do prenups. Belichick made about $6000 a year (per a recent article) when he married his wife. That's not super rich in my book.

My comment wasn't constrained to super rich people WITH prenups.

 

[dhamz]

It was always my understanding that Seymour has never participated in offseason workouts opting to workout at home in SC. I don't think this is anything new.

I think it is the 3rd consecutive year at least that he hasn't paticipated. It is really not uncommon for Pats veterans to workout away from Gillette. Ty Law always did it. Roman Phifer did it. Troy as well.

 

[Fencer]

No, but that could be the reason why Belichick is (allegedly) only signed to one year contracts. If he signed a five year $50m contract tomorrow and his wife divorced him, she'd bank $25m off the top of that. If he's on a one year $8m contract every year, she can only take half of the $8m because that's all there is. Then they can work out what she'll get off of any new deal. Regardless of that, it would be significantly less than 50% of it.

I doubt it. In highest likelihood, she'd get her percentage -- whatever it is -- off of his actual payments.

Anyhow, here's another wrinkle -- even after the divorce decree is finalized, it can be reopened in the case that there's a big change in financial circumstances.

 

[Hoodie]

No, but that could be the reason why Belichick is (allegedly) only signed to one year contracts. If he signed a five year $50m contract tomorrow and his wife divorced him, she'd bank $25m off the top of that. If he's on a one year $8m contract every year, she can only take half of the $8m because that's all there is. Then they can work out what she'll get off of any new deal. Regardless of that, it would be significantly less than 50% of it.

BB's wife was with him for 28 years. Well before he became rich. In my opinion she deserves a hefty settlement and I would bet you she got it.