Praise for Julian Edelman

[supafly]

Amendola is scheduled to be paid $3M ($2M guaranteed). Are you suggesting that no other team would pay him $2M plus incentives if the patriots cut him after refusing a pay reduction?

We're talking about Lloyd here. There should be a market for Amendola if the team is foolish enough to cut him. He has no reason to accept a reduction in compensation. He is guaranteed $2M, plus another million when he is on the starting roster for the season.

Any concerns with Danny Amendola are rather low on my list, and I'd have to suspect that Belichick likely feels the same at this current moment. Now...if he has another mediocre or even poor year in 2014 or 2015 (by Belichick's standards....not ours, as we have no idea what his assignments are under these conditions), then maybe they'd approach him for a possible pay cut. Under those circumstances, yes, I believe that he'd be inclined to stay. After all, if the conditions are so bad that we'd consider approaching him with an ultimatum due to injuries or poor play, then why would his buzz be any different around the rest of the NFL?


I'm not even coming close to referring to anything about this year, so his 2013 base salary of 2m, total salary of 3m, and 3.5m dollar cap hit are all completely irrelevant; hence the ridiculous overreacting that we continue so see from a handful of posters after one mediocre year, which also happens to have some very odd unusual circumstances behind it that probably won't continue moving forward.

I've said many times now that I do not believe that 2013 showed us good enough sample sizes of either one of Amendola or Edelman, so I doubt that either one is as good or as bad as they may have appeared to some impatient or overreacting fans. We really didn't have many options at the position of WR this season, so that likely played into the equation in my opinion.

 

[supafly]

Love Edelman - keep him for less than $5M/yr - VERY heavily incentive laden - let him prove this year was no fluke injury-wise. More than $5M/yr - let him walk and be someone else's injury report.

I would highly question the team that signs him for 5 million dollars per year on average, but that's just my opinion. I think something much closer to anything between 3--3.5 would be much more appropriate, and it would also give him a nice 400-500% raise. That's a big step from last season when he was battling many injury issues, hadn't shown much of anything as an actual receiver, and was not even healthy in the free agent period.

Edelman himself has referred to some of his issues with running bad routes, needing to work on his blocking, and continuing to try and grow as a wide receiver. While some of that is probably innocuous and could be said for many receivers across the NFL, I think that there are some who are really overvaluing him based on one good campaign when we had no other options worth a damn.

Keep in mind that we lost Hernandez as an option, Gronk only played in 6-7 games total which happened in the middle thus making it more difficult to grasp cohesiveness in either the beginning and end of the year, and we lost Shane Vereen for 10+ weeks. On top of that, we had relatively poor production from our 3 rookie WRs, as they produced catch totals of 18, 11, and 8 in the Patriots past 10 outings.

When you factor in the Amendola injury, along with his missing of 1/4 of the season, it isn't too difficult to realize how or why Julian Edelman got as many targets as he did.

 

[Bhelmet]

I would highly question the team that signs him for 5 million dollars per year on average, but that's just my opinion. I think something much closer to anything between 3--3.5 would be much more appropriate, and it would also give him a nice 400-500% raise. That's a big step from last season when he was battling many injury issues, hadn't shown much of anything as an actual receiver, and was not even healthy in the free agent period.

Edelman himself has referred to some of his issues with running bad routes, needing to work on his blocking, and continuing to try and grow as a wide receiver. While some of that is probably innocuous and could be said for many receivers across the NFL, I think that there are some who are really overvaluing him based on one good campaign when we had no other options worth a damn.

Keep in mind that we lost Hernandez as an option, Gronk only played in 6-7 games total which happened in the middle thus making it more difficult to grasp cohesiveness in either the beginning and end of the year, and we lost Shane Vereen for 10+ weeks. On top of that, we had relatively poor production from our 3 rookie WRs, as they produced catch totals of 18, 11, and 8 in the Patriots past 10 outings.

When you factor in the Amendola injury, along with his missing of 1/4 of the season, it isn't too difficult to realize how or why Julian Edelman got as many targets as he did.

I do - when I put my numbers in there I was building in offers from teams that may try to overpay him (hypothetical). I feel someone will offer him crazy money JUST SO the Pats don't get him back. Edelman is truly worth $3M year at MOST. This season has made him look more valuable, but anyone outside NE forgets about his injury history - and this is not exclusive to Edelman. If Edelman is smart (and I bet he is) he will stay with Tom and assume the role he began this season and continue that until he is Welker's age and he will be set and just fine.

Edelman works here, but will it translate to other programs? I don't care - I think he stays here.

 

[mgteich]

No one will offer crazy money simply to make sure the patriots don't re-sign him. That's just not the way the NFL works.

I do - when I put my numbers in there I was building in offers from teams that may try to overpay him (hypothetical). I feel someone will offer him crazy money JUST SO the Pats don't get him back. Edelman is truly worth $3M year at MOST. This season has made him look more valuable, but anyone outside NE forgets about his injury history - and this is not exclusive to Edelman. If Edelman is smart (and I bet he is) he will stay with Tom and assume the role he began this season and continue that until he is Welker's age and he will be set and just fine.

Edelman works here, but will it translate to other programs? I don't care - I think he stays here.

 

[mgteich]

1) I don't think Edelman's percentage raise is relevant, just his compensation.

2) I think someone might offer $4M a year, say a $5M signing bonus and salaries of 1,2,3,4 and 5 million.

I would highly question the team that signs him for 5 million dollars per year on average, but that's just my opinion. I think something much closer to anything between 3--3.5 would be much more appropriate, and it would also give him a nice 400-500% raise. That's a big step from last season when he was battling many injury issues, hadn't shown much of anything as an actual receiver, and was not even healthy in the free agent period.

Edelman himself has referred to some of his issues with running bad routes, needing to work on his blocking, and continuing to try and grow as a wide receiver. While some of that is probably innocuous and could be said for many receivers across the NFL, I think that there are some who are really overvaluing him based on one good campaign when we had no other options worth a damn.

Keep in mind that we lost Hernandez as an option, Gronk only played in 6-7 games total which happened in the middle thus making it more difficult to grasp cohesiveness in either the beginning and end of the year, and we lost Shane Vereen for 10+ weeks. On top of that, we had relatively poor production from our 3 rookie WRs, as they produced catch totals of 18, 11, and 8 in the Patriots past 10 outings.

When you factor in the Amendola injury, along with his missing of 1/4 of the season, it isn't too difficult to realize how or why Julian Edelman got as many targets as he did.

 

[supafly]

1) I don't think Edelman's percentage raise is relevant, just his compensation.

2) I think someone might offer $4M a year, say a $5M signing bonus and salaries of 1,2,3,4 and 5 million.

5 years at 20 million total for a 5/20 and 4 million average per season, then.

Perhaps you're right. I am going to stay with my prediction of 3--3.5m myself, unless he has something of an insanely production postseason, which could be possible, especially if they win on Saturday night and have the opportunity to play more than one game.

 

[ATippett56]

1) I don't think Edelman's percentage raise is relevant, just his compensation.

2) I think someone might offer $4M a year, say a $5M signing bonus and salaries of 1,2,3,4 and 5 million.

There are only so many contracts with over three million salary cap hits that an NFL franchise can sustain. The unrestricted free agent list for the New England Patriots applicable to the 2014 NFL Season takes account the following players:

Svitek
Wendell
Blount
Edelman
Hoomanawanui
Mulligan
Carter, Andre (most likely to retire)
Fletcher
Spikes
Talib

while the RFAs applicable to the 2014 NFL Season include the following:

Aiken

The unrestricted free agent list for the New England Patriots applicable to the 2015 NFL Season is daunting in comparison to 2014:

Aiken
Gostkowski
Mallett
Ridley
Vereen
Solder (5th year option available under the new CBA for first round draft picks)
Connolly
Cannon
Kelly
Wilfork
Gregory
McCourty

while the RFAs applicable to the 2015 NFL Season include the following:

Bolden
Siliga
White ???