Pats vs Browns Pre Game Discussion

[SONS_OF_BELICHICK]

Don't you know ....that Mark Schlereth is a Patriot hater.....and a former bronco who only sees blue and orange.....

by the way....did anyone notice that man-genius ....looks thinner....

 

[kkpat]

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[Dufflebagz]

If we don't beat them soundly then we probably aren't very good this year and shouldn't expect to beat either Pittsburgh or Indy.

So after our close game with Buffalo we weren't going to beat Miami or Baltimore either, right?

 

[BSR]

So after our close game with Buffalo we weren't going to beat Miami or Baltimore either, right?

Umm...they beat Buffalo by 8 points. I would consider that as beating them soundly. Are you really arguing that there should be an expectation to beat Pittsburg and Indy if they lose to Cleavland?

 

[mgcolby]

Umm...they beat Buffalo by 8 points. I would consider that as beating them soundly. Are you really arguing that there should be an expectation to beat Pittsburg and Indy if they lose to Cleavland?

So New Orleans had no shot at beating Pittsburgh Sunday night right? I mean after all New Orleans got destroyed by Cleveland at home the week before. :bricks:

 

[Dufflebagz]

Umm...they beat Buffalo by 8 points. I would consider that as beating them soundly. Are you really arguing that there should be an expectation to beat Pittsburg and Indy if they lose to Cleavland?

Wow....really?.....forget it.

Btw, nice spelling

 

[Ron Sellers]

Umm...they beat Buffalo by 8 points. I would consider that as beating them soundly. Are you really arguing that there should be an expectation to beat Pittsburg and Indy if they lose to Cleavland?

If, god forbid, the Pats do lose to Cleveland why would you base everything on that one game when comparing the Pats to Pittsburgh or the Pats to the Colts?

Sometimes better teams lose to lesser teams; it happens. Last year the Super Bowl Saints lost to Tampa Bay, a team that was so bad they nearly ended up with the number one draft pick.

Bengals beat the Ravens, Ravens beat the Jets, Jets beat the Bengals; if you're going to start determining how good a team is based on one game then how do you figure which of those three teams is the best?

Whatever the Pats do against the Browns has nothing to do with how they will do against the Steelers, and it has nothing to do with how the Pats will do against the Colts. Pats could lose to Cleveland and win those two other games. Pats could crush the Browns and then lose their next two games. One game has no affect on the other. The only thing the Browns game will effect is the following week's odds and fans moods the following week.

 

[Patspsycho]

Umm...they beat Buffalo by 8 points. I would consider that as beating them soundly. Are you really arguing that there should be an expectation to beat Pittsburg and Indy if they lose to Cleavland?

I want to go to Cleavland.. wherever that is. I love me some Cleavage.

 

[Patspsycho]

SD already did, its called pressure, I doubt we can get any worse than 50 yards in a half, we have no choice but to keep improving.

Who is the Browns QB? I have no clue but im sure he sucks, will Mankins play? Will we play aggressive considering the coach rivalry and the fact CLE blows?

The fact they beat the Saints doesn't bother me one bit, we are better than the Saints.

That "pressure" was basic rushing. Nothing we haven't seen before.

That 50 yard total is more a product of a horrible first half by the offense than anything else.

 

[jmt57]

Reiss says his three keys are for the Pats to expect the unexpected, contain Josh Cribbs - didn't realize the Browns only rank #31 in points scored - and recognition in pass protection by the Pats.

Bruschi's Breakdown: New England Patriots face the Cleveland Browns - ESPN Boston

Bruschi on the Browns offense:

This is not a big-play offense. They have had only 16 plays of 20 yards or longer. Sometimes you're preparing for a team, and you might say 'These guys can score in one play.' The Browns aren't one of them, and part of it is that they don't have players to do it, or a quarterback to deliver the ball to the receivers for 30, 40, 50 yards. So what do they do? They come at you with running the ball with Hillis, and with Watson in the passing game, and they try to put drives together.

Bruschi on the Browns defense:

This defense reminds me of the early stages of the 3-4 defense that was played here in New England, the two-gapping, being physical, being aggressive, man-on-man, winning one-on-one battles. One player who stands out to me is Scott Fujita, whom they signed in the offseason via New Orleans. I think he has brought some championship attitude to the team, veteran leadership, and he's out there making plays. He wasn't a big two-gapping 3-4 guy before coming to Cleveland, and it looks as if he's made a nice transition. When they went into New Orleans two weeks ago, they came away with four interceptions against Drew Brees; they are making big plays, and sometimes that can be contagious.

This is a team that will make the quarterback think two-man, three-man rush at times. Then, right when you think they might be showing a three-man rush, they'll bring seven. They show different looks and disguise coverages, and that's something Eric Mangini always stressed in defensive meetings: "Don't tell the quarterback what you're about to do; don't give him the answers pre-snap." That was a Mangini mantra when he was Patriots defensive coordinator and as defensive backs coach.

 

[mgcolby]

I think we win by 10, but with a late score to go up by 10. I then predict a full on Patsfans.com meltdown.

We suck!
Barely beat a terrible Browns team?
Can Pittsburgh be beat?
Are we the worses 7-1 team in football?
Colt McCoy outplaying Brady the past 3 weeks?
This team is going no where!!!!
Our first half adjustments suck!!!

Yup, I expect thread titles a long those lines.

 

[Steve102]

I want to go to Cleavland.. wherever that is. I love me some Cleavage.

Wrong thread, bro!

 

[Kid~Brady]

If, god forbid, the Pats do lose to Cleveland why would you base everything on that one game when comparing the Pats to Pittsburgh or the Pats to the Colts?

Sometimes better teams lose to lesser teams; it happens. Last year the Super Bowl Saints lost to Tampa Bay, a team that was so bad they nearly ended up with the number one draft pick.

Bengals beat the Ravens, Ravens beat the Jets, Jets beat the Bengals; if you're going to start determining how good a team is based on one game then how do you figure which of those three teams is the best?

Whatever the Pats do against the Browns has nothing to do with how they will do against the Steelers, and it has nothing to do with how the Pats will do against the Colts. Pats could lose to Cleveland and win those two other games. Pats could crush the Browns and then lose their next two games. One game has no affect on the other. The only thing the Browns game will effect is the following week's odds and fans moods the following week.

This is very true.

sidenote: Bengals always beat Ravens, they swept them last year and already beat them once this year. Ravens have a poison other than beating the Pats once in 9 years lol

 

[IcyPatriot]

Schefter the only one on this page picking the Browns ... is he from the Ohio area?

NFL Picks and Predictions for Week 9 - National Football League - ESPN

 

[Uncle Rico]

A win Sunday would put the Pats 3-1 on the road this year. That would be THREE MORE road wins on this continent than they had last year. It's quite a credit to this young team that they haven't withered on the road like last year's team did. Dawg Pound will be a nice test and I have to think this team will eat it up.

 

[Kid~Brady]

Schefter the only one on this page picking the Browns ... is he from the Ohio area?

NFL Picks and Predictions for Week 9 - National Football League - ESPN

I also wondered what Schefter's deal was too. He just spoke on Dennis and Callahan and it seemed he halted to say anything good about the Pats winning this game. They said that he is a Patriot hater tho. Jealousy... thats a female trait.

I hope we blow the Browns away like in 04'.

 

[Nikolai]

Schefter the only one on this page picking the Browns ... is he from the Ohio area?

NFL Picks and Predictions for Week 9 - National Football League - ESPN

I find it odd that only Jaws picked Detroit to beat the Jest. Detroit could very well mop up the floor with them, though I think a 10 point win is more likely.

A win Sunday would put the Pats 3-1 on the road this year. That would be THREE MORE road wins on this continent than they had last year. It's quite a credit to this young team that they haven't withered on the road like last year's team did. Dawg Pound will be a nice test and I have to think this team will eat it up.

As hard as it is to believe, the Bills are an NFL team and the Pats did beat them on the road last year in North America.

 

[BSR]

So New Orleans had no shot at beating Pittsburgh Sunday night right? I mean after all New Orleans got destroyed by Cleveland at home the week before. :bricks:

Did I say that? I was talking about expectations. Right now expectations for the Patriots are high, and rightfully so after a very good start to the season. I'll I'm saying is that those expectations should be significantly tempered if they do lose to what should be an inferior team. Now upsets do happen, but you just can't pretend like it wouldn't be a bad lose and that it never happened.

 

[BSR]

If, god forbid, the Pats do lose to Cleveland why would you base everything on that one game when comparing the Pats to Pittsburgh or the Pats to the Colts?

Sometimes better teams lose to lesser teams; it happens. Last year the Super Bowl Saints lost to Tampa Bay, a team that was so bad they nearly ended up with the number one draft pick.

Bengals beat the Ravens, Ravens beat the Jets, Jets beat the Bengals; if you're going to start determining how good a team is based on one game then how do you figure which of those three teams is the best?

Whatever the Pats do against the Browns has nothing to do with how they will do against the Steelers, and it has nothing to do with how the Pats will do against the Colts. Pats could lose to Cleveland and win those two other games. Pats could crush the Browns and then lose their next two games. One game has no affect on the other. The only thing the Browns game will effect is the following week's odds and fans moods the following week.

That is basically all I said. Expectations will go down. If Brady throws 4 picks and they get trounced by CLEVELAND are you going to ignore it and think we should be favored against Pittsburgh?

Despite people's efforts to portray them as a good team, they are not. They have rookie QB starting. They have a porous pass defense. This is a team that a good should beat. If the Patriots do end up losing to them then it is because of one of two things, a fluke or they aren't as good as we thought they were. We won't be able to tell which one is the case until the rest of the season plays out but the question will be there.

 

[BSR]

I want to go to Cleavland.. wherever that is. I love me some Cleavage.

Sheesh...I didn't realize we had such thorough spellers on the board. The weird thing is I use Firefox and didn't even notice it misspelling. This is how much I am overlooking them. I don't even see the word.