Patriots Daily News Thread Patriots Tuesday News Thread 7/30

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[n1997y]

Is this why Judon has to go, because he is a Belichick guy?

 

[Ian]

Is this why Judon has to go, because he is a Belichick guy?

I’d say if he says the things to run himself out of town rather than figure out a way to compromise and play out this final year (provided the offer isn’t incredibly ridiculous), then he’ll have to be moved. Surprised nothing has leaked from his camp yet, or by the team for that matter to provide more context to this.

 

[n1997y]

I’d say if he says the things to run himself out of town rather than figure out a way to compromise and play out this final year (provided the offer isn’t incredibly ridiculous), then he’ll have to be moved. Surprised nothing has leaked from his camp yet, or by the team for that matter to provide more context to this.

From what I’ve seen reported he’s presented his proposal. And nothing back from the team, no counter. Is that correct?

 

[Ian]

From what I’ve seen reported he’s presented his proposal. And nothing back from the team, no counter. Is that correct?

Giardi says they’re “far, far, far apart.” Which means that it sounds like he raised his asking price from before when he said about a month ago, “We ain’t that far apart, you feel me?”

So it feels like his proposal is well above where they feel it should be, and that’s where the impasse likely is. But again, only those two sides know the real deal and as I said, I’m surprised someone hasn’t leaked the details to this point given where things are after yesterday.

 

[n1997y]

Giardi says they’re “far, far, far apart.” Which means that it sounds like he raised his asking price from before when he said about a month ago, “We ain’t that far apart, you feel me?”

So it feels like his proposal is well above where they feel it should be, and that’s where the impasse likely is. But again, only those two sides know the real deal and as I said, I’m surprised someone hasn’t leaked the details to this point given where things are after yesterday.

I’d like to know what basis Giardi has for saying that before I evaluate the implications.

On the face of it I was reading the situation as Judon presented a proposed deal that he thought would be close enough to spark negotiations, and the lack of any response from the team has now convinced him they value him less than he thought.

 

[Ian]

I’d like to know what basis Giardi has for saying that before I evaluate the implications.

On the face of it I was reading the situation as Judon presented a proposed deal that he thought would be close enough to spark negotiations, and the lack of any response from the team has now convinced him they value him less than he thought.

I’m assuming he had a source, as it seems like he’s plugged in there. But you’re right, would also love to know more to get more of an understanding about what the issue is.

 

[n1997y]

I’m assuming he had a source, as it seems like he’s plugged in there. But you’re right, would also love to know more to get more of an understanding about what the issue is.

I think the issue is clear. It’s his age, and to a lesser extent that he’s coming back from an injury.

Team has him under contract next year, views him as a depreciating asset, and has no interest in extending him. They expect him to play under his present contract, and then they’ll kick him to the curb with yesterday’s trash.

Judon sees that he’ll be another year older when his contract expires and doesn’t agree with the team’s plan for his career. He wants an extension now, before his value depreciates any more.

Seems that there should be some middle ground with performance based incentives but finding it requires conversations that the team is reportedly not willing to have.

I’d like to see that change, at least to have the two sides engaged in negotiations.

 

[Tunescribe]

I don't know about anyone else here and I realize it's early, but I can't recall a more dire start to training camp. Low expectations just keep going lower.

 

[n1997y]

I don't know about anyone else here and I realize it's early, but I can't recall a more dire start to training camp. Low expectations just keep going lower.

On the bright side our WRs are lighting up our CBs

Reports I’ve been seeing make it seem we’ve got 8 WRs worthy of the roster.

And 1, maybe two or three, CBs.

 

[jlu52]

I don't know about anyone else here and I realize it's early, but I can't recall a more dire start to training camp. Low expectations just keep going lower.

Late 80’s and early 90’s were much more dire, Tunes. I stayed with them then, it’s not anywhere near as bad as the end of Billy Sullivan’s tour, and all of Victor Kiam’s stewardship. 6 Super Bowl championships later, I’m going to be a pretty patient person.

 

[captain stone]

Shaun Wade Wilson is >>>>>> Bedsore & Bolden COMBINED.