Patriots 7–0 when Ridley carries 20+ times since the start of 12'

[Brady6]

On a team that has been so devastated by injury and in need of talented playmakers it makes zero sense that Stevan Ridley who ranked seventh in rushing yards, third in first down(s) and third in touchdown(s) against the entire NFL in 2012 has only been on the field for 169 of the teams 518 offensive snaps this season.

Aside from being undefeated in the 7 games he has carried the ball 20+ times over the last 2 season we’re also:

• 9–0 when he rushes for 75 or more yards
• 12–1 when he scores at least 1 touchdown (first loss was last week)

Ridley carried the ball a total of 85 times in the 7 games we’ve lost since the start of the 2012 season, he did miss the 1 game due to injury against the Bengals, coincidently the worst offensive performance we’ve had in recent memory.

Hey Belichick and McDaniels just a thought >>> Play Stevan Ridley :doh:

Wait lets trade for Maurice Jones-Drew instead because where doing such a great job utilizing our own lead runner why not add another :brick:

 

[Ozymandias]

It's pretty obvious that the running game is one of the keys to the overall effectiveness of the offense, even more so this season with all of the rookies and their inexperience.

Balance is everything in 2013. Balance.

 

[mosi]

Man, I agree with you 100%. I thought the main reason they lost the Cincinnati game was poor running game, manly because Ridley was out. Personally, I believe that he is the most important person on this team (besides Brady). If the Pats commit to him and the run game, they can compete in almost any game. When they don't, they will struggle.

 

[voluntarysaftey]

I don't think its quite as simple as "give Ridley the ball alot'. It's possible he carried it 20+ times in games in which the passing game got us to dominate the first half.
The receivers need to be able to hang onto the ball; and Brady needs to improve his accuracy. If those happen, then the running game will be a nice compliment. Team's don't win superbowls by relying on their running game as the primary offense

 

[Deus Irae]

And here we have correlation v. causation, yet again...

In 2011, they were 14-2 in games where Ridley had fewer than 20 carries, and the playoff game they won featured Ridley with only 4 carries. Were they winning because Ridley wasn't getting 20 carries per game?

 

[DocHoliday]

Maybe Ridley sucks in practice.

 

[RayClay]

I'm all for it. McDaniels biggest deficiency is using the RB consistently and setting the defense up with his play calling. He too often just abandons change of pace.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Patriots 7–0 when Ridley carries 20+ times since the start of 12'

And here we have correlation v. causation, yet again...

In 2011, they were 14-2 in games where Ridley had fewer than 20 carries, and the playoff game they won featured Ridley with only 4 carries. Were they winning because Ridley wasn't getting 20 carries per game?

Nice words, anyway that's like saying the Patriots were 10-5 in 2008 when Brady didn't throw a pass, needless to say you're reaching by bringing 2011 Ridley's rookie year and a year in which he was 3rd on the depth chart and using it justify a post in a thread about Ridley's tenure as the #1 running back.

Grab your thesaurus I know you can come up with something better than that my friend.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Patriots 7–0 when Ridley carries 20+ times since the start of 12'

I don't think its quite as simple as "give Ridley the ball alot'. It's possible he carried it 20+ times in games in which the passing game got us to dominate the first half.
The receivers need to be able to hang onto the ball; and Brady needs to improve his accuracy. If those happen, then the running game will be a nice compliment. Team's don't win superbowls by relying on their running game as the primary offense

Brady has completed 63.4% of his career passes, he was above 65% in both seasons prior to McDaniels return, he is no less accurate, just like the Red Sox players struggled last year under the ego and me first attitude of Valentine that is what you're seeing from the Patriots under the ego and me first attitude of McDaniels.

 

[andrewgarrr]

The amount of senseless extrapolation between these two stats is so unnecessarily stupid.

 

[Deus Irae]

In 2012, the games Ridley had 20+ runs were:

Titans - 34-13, and a game that was clearly not decided by Ridley's running (21-3 at the half included a fum rec for a TD, 2 big passes by Brady on the first drive while Ridley had runs of 0/17/-1, and a 12 play drive where Ridley ran twice). It's not that Ridley didn't help and play well. It's that his running 20+ times wasn't the reason for the Patriots win.

Bills - 52-28, in a game where 11 of Ridley's 22 carries came in a 7 point first half, 6 more of his 22 carries came in a 14 point 3rd quarter where the biggest runs were made by Bolden, not Ridley.

Denver - 31-21, where the Patriots ripped open a big lead and then sat on it (great game by Ridley until he fumbled)

Bills - 37-31, where, up until the last two (FG) drives, Ridley had 10 carries for 22 yards on the Patriots scoring drives

Jets - 49-19, where we had the Buttfumble game and 35 Patriots points scored in the 2nd quarter and Ridley had 2 carries for 5 yards in that quarter

Dolphins - 28-0, where the Patriots first score came on 2 Brady passes after an INT by Gregory, their second score came on a 13 play drive that started on the NE and Ridley ran twice for 3 total yards, their 3rd score came on a 14 play drive where Ridley had 2 runs for 5 total yards, and a final scoring drive starting on the Miami 47, where Ridley had 2 runs for 6 total yards

 

[Deus Irae]

Nice words, anyway that's like saying the Patriots were 10-5 in 2008 when Brady didn't throw a pass, needless to say you're reaching by bringing 2011 Ridley's rookie year and a year in which he was 3rd on the depth chart and using it justify a post in a thread about Ridley's tenure as the #1 running back.

Grab your thesaurus I know you can come up with something better than that my friend.

No, it's like pointing out that you're making really horrible arguments, on thread after thread, about the same underlying topic, despite getting your ass handed to you time and again.

 

[Brady6]

No, it's like pointing out that you're making really horrible arguments, on thread after thread, about the same underlying topic, despite getting your ass handed to you time and again.

Who hand my ass to me DI? You? The one defending Josh McDaniels, I will give you the same information I gave you in the other thread about McDaniels:

Tom Brady era:

With McDaniels: .753 wins percentage, 0-1 in Super Bowl.
Without McDaniels: .761 wins percentage, 3-1 in Super Bowl.

I did remove 2008 from McDaniel’s won/loss percentage, and the difference might seem minimal but keep in mind that one of the seasons under McDaniels was the 18-1 season take that out and it drops to a .695 win percentage under McDaniels. Most importantly Brady went to the Super Bowl in 4 of the 7 seasons without McDaniels, won a Super Bowl in 3 of those years, with McDaniels in he has been to 1 Super Bowl in 5 years and he lost.

Please tell me again how I got my ass handed to me… :lol:

Your actually a funny guy, delusional but very funny guy just the same, don’t mistake the tone of my post because I genuinely like you, find you to be one of the most educated posters in here and overall I enjoy reading everything you have to say also admire the fact that even when you’re wrong you come back with such bold statements, it brings a smile to my face

 

[fumbrunner]

In 2012, the games Ridley had 20+ runs were:

Titans - 34-13, and a game that was clearly not decided by Ridley's running (21-3 at the half included a fum rec for a TD, 2 big passes by Brady on the first drive while Ridley had runs of 0/17/-1, and a 12 play drive where Ridley ran twice). It's not that Ridley didn't help and play well. It's that his running 20+ times wasn't the reason for the Patriots win.

Bills - 52-28, in a game where 11 of Ridley's 22 carries came in a 7 point first half, 6 more of his 22 carries came in a 14 point 3rd quarter where the biggest runs were made by Bolden, not Ridley.

Denver - 31-21, where the Patriots ripped open a big lead and then sat on it (great game by Ridley until he fumbled)

Bills - 37-31, where, up until the last two (FG) drives, Ridley had 10 carries for 22 yards on the Patriots scoring drives

Jets - 49-19, where we had the Buttfumble game and 35 Patriots points scored in the 2nd quarter and Ridley had 2 carries for 5 yards in that quarter

Dolphins - 28-0, where the Patriots first score came on 2 Brady passes after an INT by Gregory, their second score came on a 13 play drive that started on the NE and Ridley ran twice for 3 total yards, their 3rd score came on a 14 play drive where Ridley had 2 runs for 5 total yards, and a final scoring drive starting on the Miami 47, where Ridley had 2 runs for 6 total yards

Thanks for this Deus. It clearly demonstrates that you cannot look at a season or a set a games in summary and make wide-sweeping conclusions. Every game is different in terms of how the offensive strategy changes or evolves during events in the game. Some people see to not be able to grasp that. The devil is in the details.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

run ridley into the ground

 

[fumbrunner]

Rather than grasping at straws, there is a more telling stat: The Patriots are 10-1 during the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons when Brady is sacked once or less. And this year? there have been one 2 such games.

The equation is simple. Keep Brady clean, chances are they win.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Patriots 7–0 when Ridley carries 20+ times since the start of 12'

The amount of senseless extrapolation between these two stats is so unnecessarily stupid.

So you've said, granted you offered zero justification which is widely considered to the stupidest way to make any statement.

 

[Froob]

Brady has completed 63.4% of his career passes, he was above 65% in both seasons prior to McDaniels return, he is no less accurate, just like the Red Sox players struggled last year under the ego and me first attitude of Valentine that is what you're seeing from the Patriots under the ego and me first attitude of McDaniels.

You should be a boston sports writer.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Patriots 7–0 when Ridley carries 20+ times since the start of 12'

Rather than grasping at straws, there is a more telling stat: The Patriots are 10-1 during the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons when Brady is sacked once or less. And this year? there have been one 2 such games.

The equation is simple. Keep Brady clean, chances are they win.

But they're 12-1 in games when Ridley scores a touchdown which I stated in my OP that you consider grasping for straws.

 

[fumbrunner]

But they're 12-1 in games when Ridley scores a touchdown which I stated in my OP that you consider grasping for straws.

I think keeping the GOAT upright in a clearly pass-oriented league gives them a good chance at winning, yes. Call me crazy.

Likely more so than having the team run over some irrelevant number of times in a game.