Our Safeties Could Be Good Enough

[mgteich]

Chung is a fine safety.

Ihedigbo is OK as one of a three safety unit.

If Moore can be one of the three, we could be OK.

To put this another way, Moore and Ihedigbo are considerably better than Barrett and Brown. Even Ventrone is ahead of Brown.
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BOTTOM LINE
As one of our two weakest units (the toher being our corners), this group is much improved in the past 8 weeks.

 

[Hazy]

tbh i wouldnt get over excited by our safeties just yet, we only went up against Sanchez.

 

[Deus Irae]

Chung is a fine safety.

Ihedigbo is OK as one of a three safety unit.

If Moore can be one of the three, we could be OK.

To put this another way, Moore and Ihedigbo are considerably better than Barrett and Brown. Even Ventrone is ahead of Brown.
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BOTTOM LINE
As one of our two weakest units (the toher being our corners), this group is much improved in the past 8 weeks.

This is not the real mgteich. This is a pod person!

 

[mgteich]

Hope is a good thing.

Obviously, Belichick has made several really bad decisions at safety over the past few months. It does no good to dwell on those.

Ihedigbo and Moore were good choices.

Obviously, choosing a couple of OK UDFA JAG's cannot make up for recent errors, but it could be enough to make the difference between a really aweful set of safeties and one which is a C- or D group.

This is not the real mgteich. This is a pod person!

 

[groundgame]

Forget about if they are good enough, 5 bucks to anyone who can name the safeties.

 

[JackBauer]

Hope is a good thing.

Obviously, Belichick has made several really bad decisions at safety over the past few months. It does no good to dwell on those.

Ihedigbo and Moore were good choices.

Obviously, choosing a couple of OK UDFA JAG's cannot make up for recent errors, but it could be enough to make the difference between a really aweful set of safeties and one which is a C- or D group.

Wouldn't a "D" group of safeties be, by definition, really awful?

That said, I agree with your premise. Any arrangement that keeps Sergio Brown's ass glued to the bench wins my seal of approval.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Sterling Moore*|*Southern Methodist,*CB*:*2011 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

Sterling Moore, the 113th ranked CB out of 182 CBs. Not even in the top 1,000 players! (The thing stops at 999th for the obscure players for some reason)

Yet he looked decent, and showed potential, lol!

 

[Deus Irae]

Hope is a good thing.

Obviously, Belichick has made several really bad decisions at safety over the past few months. It does no good to dwell on those.

Ihedigbo and Moore were good choices.

Obviously, choosing a couple of OK UDFA JAG's cannot make up for recent errors, but it could be enough to make the difference between a really aweful set of safeties and one which is a C- or D group.

Hope is fine. You're posting absolutely ridiculous stuff today, in thread after thread. When the anti-homers do what you're doing, they get pummeled for it and their threads disappear. Come on man....

Safeties: suck
Corners: mostly suck
Linebackers: mostly suck
D-line: only part of the defense worth a damn.

No matter how people try to slice it, this team is dead in the water once the playoffs come, unless Brady plays out of his mind.*






* Yes, anything's possible, and the defense could shock the world and shut down 2-3 opponents in a row come playoff time. That's not what you hang your hat on, though.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Sterling Moore*|*Southern Methodist,*CB*:*2011 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

Sterling Moore, the 113th ranked CB out of 182 CBs. Not even in the top 1,000 players! (The thing stops at 999th for the obscure players for some reason)

Yet he looked decent, and showed potential, lol!

Yes...and he delivers punishing hits. McCourty will attest to that.

 

[mgteich]

Linebackers do not mostly suck.

I am fine with Carter, Anderson, Ninkovich, Mayo, Spikes and Fletcher.
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Please list the defensive reps yestersday of all the linebackers that suck.

Surely you are not all worked up over the benchsitters.

Hope is fine. You're posting absolutely ridiculous stuff today.

Safeties: suck
Corners: mostly suck
Linebackers: mostly suck
D-line: only part of the defense worth a damn.

No matter how people try to slice it, this team is dead in the water once the playoffs come, unless Brady plays out of his mind.*






* Yes, anything's possible, and the defense could shock the world and shut down 2-3 opponents in a row come playoff time. With God, all things are possible. That's not what you hang your hat on, though.

 

[Deus Irae]

Linebackers do not mostly suck.

I am fine with Carter, Anderson, Ninkovich, Mayo, Spikes and Fletcher.
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Please list the defensive reps yestersday of all the linebackers that suck.

Surely you are not all worked up over the benchsitters.

If you don't think that the linebackers mostly suck, I'm sorry that your standards have fallen that low. This team has one legitimate 3-down linebacker (Mayo), one run stopping linebacker (Spikes), one all around backup level/rotational linebacker (Ninkovitch), and a bunch of stiffs.

Carter and Anderson are defensive ends.

 

[AQPE]

Hope is a good thing.

Maybe the best of things ...

Last night gave a lot of us reason to feel better, so let's try to hang on to that for a bit. I think most of us know that until this group goes up against one of the better QBs in the league, we can't really know. Part of my sense of hope about the Pats DBs coming out of last night is that it seems like self-confidence is a very significant factor for those guys. Going forward the next few games, they will not be going up against one of the better QBs so if they can build on last night and get their confidence going, it could be enough if they get to the playoffs.

 

[mgteich]

OK, so we have Carter and Anderson at the ends in a 4-3.

We have Ninkovich, Spikes/Fletcher, Mayo as our linebackers.

Yes, we used to have better. But to say that this alignment mostly sucks is ridiculous (another way of saying that I strongly disagree).

THOSE WHO HAVE SUCKED THIS YEAR
Guyton and Cunningham come to mind. They mostly sit on the bench, as one would expect from those at the bottom of the depth chart.

If you don't think that the linebackers mostly suck, I'm sorry that your standards have fallen that low. This team has one legitimate 3-down linebacker (Mayo), one run stopping linebacker (Spikes), one all around backup level/rotational linebacker (Ninkovitch), and a bunch of stiffs.

Carter and Anderson are defensive ends.

 

[groundgame]

The good news part of the NO NAME SAFETY DEFENSE: If you bring in a new round of practice squad castoffs every other game, there will be almost no film for opposing coaches to game-plan against for those 2 games (only).

 

[Deus Irae]

OK, so we have Carter and Anderson at the ends in a 4-3.

We have Ninkovich, Spikes/Fletcher, Mayo as our linebackers.

Yes, we used to have better. But to say that this alignment mostly sucks is ridiculous (another way of saying that I strongly disagree).

THOSE WHO HAVE SUCKED THIS YEAR
Guyton and Cunningham come to mind. They mostly sit on the bench, as one would expect from those at the bottom of the depth chart.

I don't know where you get the notion that Guyton's been riding the pine. Since his return to the lineup following his injury and the missed Chargers game, He had 18 of 66 snaps against the Bills, 48 of 70 against the Raiders, 54 of 54 in the first game against the Jets, 74 of 74 against the Cowboys, 52 of 80 against the Steelers and 26 of 72 against the Giants.

As for the rest, well, you're entitled to your opinion, but the linebackers mostly suck.