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OT Burress: Two Years in Plea Deal (merged)

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Was a jerk and a fool to bring his loaded, illegally possessed gun into a night club - but he must have felt compelled by the "culture" (see Mike Vick's 60mins comments) to be 'hot.' But I doubt this law was enacted to punish fools, it was meant as a way to get bad guys off the streets. The dimwit Burress decided he needed to 'bang' (sorry, i couldn't resist) like the lifers to have some cred'. what a dope, yes. But there was nothing aggravated, or malicious in his action, and he's clearly not a career criminal the DA needs to slam the gate on.

Fools probably need about 1-3 months in a true-life stinky to realize what an ass they've been - especially if they know another similar offense means 5yrs hard time, minimum. Burress was the classic picture book conviction the white folks uptown can deceitfully insist was equal justice for all. Two years? Stallworth (and many, many others) kills someone and doesn't get near that kind of time. Life ain't fair, aight, but neither is this sentence - it's all for the scrapbook and the street talk. Bull$&#T
 
Burress has always been a very low character guy and is an absolute moron for doing this. However, I don't feel 2 years fits the crime.

For those saying well he could have shot someone else, he didn't. That's like saying every regular DUI offender should be prosecuted as if they did kill someone because they could have.
 
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So he gets two years for carrying a weapon, shooting himself, while people bring fully loaded assault rifles to public town halls and places where the president is...

Something isn't really adding up.

I'm sorry, but Plaxico is NOT a menace to the public, and everyone that HUNTS and shoots themselves don't get 2 years...

What am I missing here ...

You're missing the fact that Plexiglas Furnace is a complete and total moron. And morons illegally carrying loaded/concealed firearms in public DESERVE to be put away. If you don't think what he did was a threat to society, you might want to consider putting yourself under house arrest.
 
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And, for the record, theres much less gun violence in NYC than in Boston.

And less violent crime in MA than in Texas. Statey doesn't understand the difference between correlation and causation.

Crime Rate by State, 2006 — Infoplease.com
Crime Rate by State: The United States — Infoplease.com
State Rankings--Statistical Abstract of the United States--Violent Crime Rate
Crime in the United States 2006
Crime in the United States 2007
 
Was a jerk and a fool to bring his loaded, illegally possessed gun into a night club - but he must have felt compelled by the "culture" (see Mike Vick's 60mins comments) to be 'hot.' But I doubt this law was enacted to punish fools, it was meant as a way to get bad guys off the streets. The dimwit Burress decided he needed to 'bang' (sorry, i couldn't resist) like the lifers to have some cred'. what a dope, yes. But there was nothing aggravated, or malicious in his action, and he's clearly not a career criminal the DA needs to slam the gate on.

Fools probably need about 1-3 months in a true-life stinky to realize what an ass they've been - especially if they know another similar offense means 5yrs hard time, minimum. Burress was the classic picture book conviction the white folks uptown can deceitfully insist was equal justice for all. Two years? Stallworth (and many, many others) kills someone and doesn't get near that kind of time. Life ain't fair, aight, but neither is this sentence - it's all for the scrapbook and the street talk. Bull$&#T

I live in Manhattan and have two young kids, so my answer is definitely influenced by that fact and I admit it up front.

Your post is why we have a democratic process, why "elections matter" and why there are DA's and courts to sort this stuff out. As a Manhattan resident I'm very happy that these laws are in place and I'm very happy that the DA pursued the matter in this fashion. These laws don't stop all gun violence, but they help put NYC among the best cities in the country for low gun crime stats. A very diverse group of Manhattan residents voted for the mayor, DA, city council and state reps who legislated in this regard and enforced that legislation. If you disagree, move hear and vote. Out next mayoral and DA election is in November.

You say there was nothing "aggravated" in his action. I disagree. Burress is 6'5", my kids are 3'4". If that idiot is walking down the street with his Glock (no safety) in his waistband and the weapon discharges and my kids are nearby, they are in danger. You'll reply that "well, that's not very likely." Agreed. But one of the reasons these laws are in place is that things that are "not very likely" happen every day in every city.

As to differentiated treatment, according to the NY Daily News today two years was the typical sentence for this crime last year in New York. Very few get a shorter sentence. Those who do either have a case where the facts are ambiguous or in dispute; they certainly didn't try to hide their weapon, didn't try to check into a hospital under an assumed name after the crime, didn't have a friend transport the weapon illegally back to New Jersey, didn't stonewall the DA throughout the process, didn't try to sweet-talk a Grand Jury into nullifying the crime by not indicting him and didn't confess to the crime to the Grand Jury.

Sorry, this was not "differentiated justice." He's lucky the DA didn't insist on going to trial and opening his prosecution with the reading of Burress' confession under oath to the grand jury, when 3 1/2 years would have been the mandatory minimum sentence the judge could have handed down.

As to the Stallworth point, that's another matter and we might agree more than we disagree there, tho Stallworth turned himself in, stayed at the scene, called 911, admitted his wrongdoing and handled himself with decency throughout the entire process. But that's a separate matter.
 
For those saying well he could have shot someone else, he didn't. That's like saying every regular DUI offender should be prosecuted as if they did kill someone because they could have.

I don't see anything wrong with that. The only thing different from a DUI and a DUI w/ Manslaughter is getting lucky.


The act should be punished, not the consequences.
 
Burress has always been a very low character guy and is an absolute moron for doing this. However, I don't feel 2 years fits the crime.

For those saying well he could have shot someone else, he didn't. That's like saying every regular DUI offender should be prosecuted as if they did kill someone because they could have.

You're confusing two separate issues.

Burress wasn't punished because he could have shot someone else and didn't. He was punished because he broke a well-known law by carrying an illegally concealed weapon in Manhattan and discharging that weapon. If he had shot someone else, he would have been prosecuted and punished differently. Believe me, the DA wouldn't have cut a deal with him had he done so.

If you're arguing that the law under which he was prosecuted is a bad law, that's your right. I disagree but we're a democracy and people disagree.

If you're arguing, as his Lawyer was spinning yesterday, that he was differentially prosecuted because of his celebrity status, you're wrong on the facts. Two years, according to today's NY Daily News, is the typical sentence for this crime. Those who get less do so typically because the facts are ambiguous or reasonably in dispute and the DA is concerned that a Jury will nullify. No one who does what Burress did, tries to check himself into a Hospital under an assumed name, has a friend transport the weapon illegally back to New Jersey, stonewalls the DA and confesses to the crime under oath to a Grand Jury does less than two years. In fact, Burress is lucky that the DA didn't go to trial and open and rest the People's case by reading his confession, when the mandatory sentence would have been no less than 3 1/2 years.

Suggesing that the laws are in place to reduce the risk of idiots like Burress carrying concealed, loaded weapons without safeties in the waistband of their pants into a crowded place and injuring people with them is a separate matter.
 
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