OT: Am I the only one surprised that Adalius Thomas still is without a job?

[JoeSixPat]

it's not inconceivable that he doesn't want to play for vet. minimum. Many vets do, but many is not all. He may have reached a point where the practices and wear and tear just isn't worth it to him. Would you put yourself through playing for a minimal contract when it would increase your net worth by 2%? maybe, but maybe he wouldn't.

I know what you're saying... I'm just taking the perspective that if he had any skills left he'd be a fool not to play for the veteran minimum because that could very likely propel him back to a pretty sizeable contract.

If he's got zero skills then, yes I suppose a player might look at that as a paltry figure - though most NFL players seem to be happy to gain that supplemental income at the end of their career... there's not too many places in the private sector hiring at nearly $ 1 million a year right now.

He'd be quite the rarity if he were among the minority you note that, yes, walk away and leave money on the table for fear of injury etc...

So is it a question of "won't take" the veteran minimum, or that the vet minimum hasn't been offered?

I think it's the latter which makes it one of the most surprising and sudden drop off in talent that I've seen in awhile

 

[Gwedd]

I know what you're saying... I'm just taking the perspective that if he had any skills left he'd be a fool not to play for the veteran minimum because that could very likely propel him back to a pretty sizeable contract.

If he's got zero skills then, yes I suppose a player might look at that as a paltry figure - though most NFL players seem to be happy to gain that supplemental income at the end of their career... there's not too many places in the private sector hiring at nearly $ 1 million a year right now.

He'd be quite the rarity if he were among the minority you note that, yes, walk away and leave money on the table for fear of injury etc...

So is it a question of "won't take" the veteran minimum, or that the vet minimum hasn't been offered?

I think it's the latter which makes it one of the most surprising and sudden drop off in talent that I've seen in awhile

I think that that is square in the black. Coach B gave Thomas his best shot, and Thomas couldn't perform. That says everything you need to know about him. If New England can't make it work, there's not many options left where it will.

 

[NE39]

Adalius had a tryout for the Bengals today.

 

[fierce]

Really? So everyone knew he was completely washed up and wasn't even worthy of being the 53rd best player on the worst team in the NFL?

To me, that's a pretty sudden drop. Not exactly something "common" among high profile top tier NFL free agents to go from "starter" to "can't make a 53 man roster" that suddenly.

We've all seen guys who's skills are no longer worth their contract being cut, but usually they still retain enough skills to latch on as a veteran minimum player on a bad team at least... hence the surprising nature of the near complete lack of interest (I've only heard the Jets as considering him - no other teams).

When did you know he'd completely lost all his NFL skills? And next time could you give Belichick an advance warning?

LOL yeah I see your point. I think that Belichick probably tried to trade him last season, when there weren't any bites he got cut. He needed to sign a "prove it" deal with a team since his performance was so awful with us and likely balked at the numbers. The only thing I'll add to that is I believe his ONLY shot to prove himself would be the Jets and they passed. The Ravens MAY have been an option except that Dean Pees went there as their LB Coach. Who better to know if someone is washed up than him? When niether his former DC or his former LB Coach signed him, the rest of the league likely figured there's a reason the team with more questions than answers at OLB cut him.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I said he should beef up to be an NT ... he's be good at just standing there.

 

[JoeSixPat]

I think that that is square in the black. Coach B gave Thomas his best shot, and Thomas couldn't perform. That says everything you need to know about him. If New England can't make it work, there's not many options left where it will.

Except possibly Cincinatti apparently.

But your point is well taken. Belichick's assessment of him sure hasn't helped AD's marketability... it doesn't seem there HAS been a market for him. It's clear it's not just a case of him not being worth the high price that the Patriots were paying for him... it's that he doesn't appear to be worth much of anything to anyone.

'cept maybe be the Bengals... and if that happens we'll see if Thomas has "demeaned" himself by taking the pro-rated veteran minimum or wins out and gets a more signficant contract, which would lend creedence to those who seem to think that Thomas has turned down multiple offers of the Vet minimum because he doesn't need the money and wants to avoid injury.

 

[fierce]

Except possibly Cincinatti apparently.

But your point is well taken. Belichick's assessment of him sure hasn't helped AD's marketability... it doesn't seem there HAS been a market for him. It's clear it's not just a case of him not being worth the high price that the Patriots were paying for him... it's that he doesn't appear to be worth much of anything to anyone.

'cept maybe be the Bengals... and if that happens we'll see if Thomas has "demeaned" himself by taking the pro-rated veteran minimum or wins out and gets a more signficant contract, which would lend creedence to those who seem to think that Thomas has turned down multiple offers of the Vet minimum because he doesn't need the money and wants to avoid injury.

I hope I didn't come off as one of those people. I think he's garbage...

 

[Disco Volante]

Not surprised at all.

Funny, how a good portion of the board thought Rex Ryan would sign him and he'd magically become elite again.

Then again, they think that about any player who goes to the Jets.

 

[captain stone]

God I hate JT. He just loves to stick it to the Pats.

I hate Jason the Traitor, too.

After all the respect that this coach, these players & we fans had given him over the years,
why then does he sign with an organization & fanbase which had never given him that same respect at all?

F him to hell.

 

[captain stone]

I think it's the latter which makes it one of the most surprising and sudden drop off in talent that I've seen in awhile

He, and Derrick Burgess too.

I think the mention of the above 2 names is partly why Bill is willing to give youth a chance at OLB this year.

 

[Froob]

Why do people say he was a complete bust? First year and a half he was a complete beast. Awesome in the superbowl too. After he went on IR with a broken arm in '08 it all went downhill. It'd kill to have 07 AD back though.

 

[jmt57]

I recall reading a magazine story on Thomas when he was with the Ravens. One of the main points was that he was such a freak; he could and did line up at nearly every defensive position on the field over the course of the season. We all know how much Belichick loves versatility with his players; he was surely enamored with that.

Unfortunately for all parties involved we didn't see as much of the production from that type of versatility with the Pats that we were hoping for.

 

[crowell33]

If only Belichick had used him right, he would have been a star !

 

[Patriot Missile]

Why do people say he was a complete bust? First year and a half he was a complete beast. Awesome in the superbowl too. After he went on IR with a broken arm in '08 it all went downhill. It'd kill to have 07 AD back though.

Beast? Not so sure about that? Thought he was good but not great. Not a bust, not the savior everyone had hoped for either. At any rate, the memory of him using Leon Washington as a battering ram to utterly destroy Favre was priceless and will live on forever in fan's minds.

 

[Synovia]

The theory that "he's asking for too much money" made sense before Week 1 but at this stage of the season no agent or player can realistically be expecting a big payday... they may be quibbling over a few hundred thousand dollars of guaranteed money but he's losing that amount each week he sits out now and is killing his chances of earning a decent salary next season

Tell that to Logan Mankins. Or Vincent Jackson.


Thomas has made quite a bit of money in his career. He may just think that the risk of injury isn't worth it for vet-min.

 

[Synovia]

Why do people say he was a complete bust? First year and a half he was a complete beast. Awesome in the superbowl too. After he went on IR with a broken arm in '08 it all went downhill. It'd kill to have 07 AD back though.

Because thats what Patriots fans do. Randy Moss was just a JAG, remember?

 

[Goal_Line_Stand]

Adalius had a tryout for the Bengals today.

He won't get the job unless he gets arrested on the way there.

 

[crowell33]

Bengals tried out 7 players that day. AD was one of the seven.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Originally Posted by JoeSixPat
The theory that "he's asking for too much money" made sense before Week 1 but at this stage of the season no agent or player can realistically be expecting a big payday... they may be quibbling over a few hundred thousand dollars of guaranteed money but he's losing that amount each week he sits out now and is killing his chances of earning a decent salary next season

Tell that to Logan Mankins. Or Vincent Jackson.


Thomas has made quite a bit of money in his career. He may just think that the risk of injury isn't worth it for vet-min.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Logan Mankins, Vincent Jackson and Adalius Thomas are not quite comparable. One of those three is currently viewed as washed up. The other two are not.

 

[Calciumee]

If you can't tackle you cant play in the NFL

Depends on the position I bet Brady can't tackle well