Offseason player acquisition thread

[bakes781]

Baum re-signed with the Eagles

This one im bummed out

Yep.


How about Nick Bolton of the Chiefs?

 

[JayNM]

We should try to get OT/OG Mekhi Becton from the Eagles: I think he's ready to play Tackle.

I like going after good player of winning team

Not surprising as he had a career yesr and loves being on eagles. They have the cap space.

good
i hate overpaying one year wonders who excelled playing in a great defense
even our LB would look good behind that D-Line

ILBs are one of the cheapest position who play all 4 downs

even if they are overpaid, they are still underpaid in the defense, in a snap by snap share value analysis (i just made that **** up, yes)

Anyway, I would LOVE a true DOG at LBs, i think it's one of those things you only know it's there when they aren't

 

[PatsFan2]

Aiyuk + Kirk would be perfectly fine, but still an issue of both guys coming off injury

Even on one leg they're still better than what we currently got...so there.

 

[Love The Drake]

There’s going to be bonds available in free agency for the Patriots to sign at this rate lol.

What a joke.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Yep.


How about Nick Bolton of the Chiefs?

I like Nick Bolton a lot for us. Also Sherwood of the Jets. Remake the LB room to fit the new scheme that prioritizes speed and aggression vs. read and react principles. Bolton isn't a coverage specialist by any means, but he's an every down player and someone who can make plays.

 

[Patsgofor4]

He would send T-Rex arms Henry to the bench. Huge fan of Kyle Pitts.

Why? He should be dominant in the passing game but just isn't. He has 10 TDs total in 4 years and hasn't broken 700 yards since his rookie year. You're still fantasizing about draft pick Pitts and rookie Pitts. In reality, it was a major overdraft to take him at 4.

Also, since when are 32 3⁄4 inch arms "T-Rex arms" for a TE? You never get tired of writing bullsh*t, do you.

 

[PatsFan2]

Why? He should be dominant in the passing game but just isn't. He has 10 TDs total in 4 years and hasn't broken 700 yards since his rookie year. You're still fantasizing about draft pick Pitts and rookie Pitts. In reality, it was a major overdraft to take him at 4.

RK accountant alert let's save the Krafts $$$$$$$.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

James Stewart over at 98.5 says his sources are saying the same thing about Aiyuk.

If I recall, Stewart has a track record. So I’ll treat as legit, and that the 617 account made something up that happened to be correct.

 

[PatsFan2]

Why? He should be dominant in the passing game but just isn't. He has 10 TDs total in 4 years and hasn't broken 700 yards since his rookie year. You're still fantasizing about draft pick Pitts and rookie Pitts. In reality, it was a major overdraft to take him at 4.

Atlanta is a $hitty Franchise if you haven't realized. I think he can reach his Potential with Josh McDaniels.

 

[Love The Drake]

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If I recall, Stewart has a track record. So I’ll treat as legit, and that the 617 account made something up that happened to be correct.

We are going to give him 25 mill?
That’s insane.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

I like Nick Bolton a lot for us. Also Sherwood of the Jets. Remake the LB room to fit the new scheme that prioritizes speed and aggression vs. read and react principles. Bolton isn't a coverage specialist by any means, but he's an every down player and someone who can make plays.

Sherwood was identified in Doug Kyed’s article earlier this week as a Pats target based on rumors he’s heard from the Pats at the combine.

 

[Patsgofor4]

RK accountant alert let's save the Krafts $$$$$$$.

When did I mention anything about money? You are not a smart man.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Sherwood was identified in Doug Kyed’s article earlier this week as a Pats target based on rumors he’s heard from the Pats at the combine.

Yup that's where I got the name from. Not someone really on my radar until I saw his name but I like the profile of player.

 

[PatsFan2]

When did I mention anything about money? You are not a smart man.

Blushing.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Aiyuk's contract isn't bad at all. I could care less about the actual dollars that Kraft has to spend. His cap numbers for the next two years are low and if he hasn't been worthy of a new extension to lower his 2027 number, 9.2m in dead money in 2027 if they cut him is relative peanuts, given what the cap ceiling is going to be a that point.

 

[TommyD4207]

I would kick those tires and make him a full-time WR.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Aiyuk's contract isn't bad at all. I could care less about the actual dollars that Kraft has to spend. His cap numbers for the next two years are low and if he hasn't been worthy of a new extension to lower his 2027 number, 9.2m in dead money in 2027 is nothing given what the cap ceiling is going to be a that point.

Graphic is incomplete. His cap numbers are actually lower than this for us if we acquire him. In 2025 it would be $6,591,000 and in 2026 it would be $11,623,000. The difference is $4.6M/year because that's the signing bonus amortization that SF already paid and retains on their cap.

Your $9.2M dead money number is way off though because it isn't currently taking into account his option bonuses of $22,855,000 for 2025 and $24,935,000 for 2026. This amounts will be paid in those years, but amortized through 2030 for cap purposes. That's why the cap is so low despite him being paid that cap.

If they cut him after two years though, the difference between what they paid on those options and what would have counted on the cap is the dead money charge. It'd be a total of $33,661,000 of dead money.

 

[PatsFan2]

I would kick those tires and make him a full-time WR.

He's still very young.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Graphic is incomplete. His cap numbers are actually lower than this for us if we acquire him. In 2025 it would be $6,591,000 and in 2026 it would be $11,623,000. The difference is $4.6M/year because that's the signing bonus amortization that SF already paid and retains on their cap.

Your $9.2M dead money number is way off though because it isn't currently taking into account his option bonuses of $22,855,000 for 2025 and $24,935,000 for 2026. This amounts will be paid in those years, but amortized through 2030 for cap purposes. That's why the cap is so low despite him being paid that cap.

If they cut him after two years though, the difference between what they paid on those options and what would have counted on the cap is the dead money charge. It'd be a total of $33,661,000 of dead money.

Yes!
and
Doh!

Surprising that OTC is so far off. Usually they are very accurate.

EDIT: read your response again and it looks like it isn't inaccuracy on their part...they can't account for those roster bonuses until they have actually happened so they can't give an accurate dead money figure for 2027 at this point. Thanks for the mini education on dead money calculations.

 

[Rob0729]

If I recall, Stewart has a track record. So I’ll treat as legit, and that the 617 account made something up that happened to be correct.

I don't know Stewart's actual track record, but his sources are definitely people in the organization and not guys selling hotdogs. He knows people who might know something like this.