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PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots lose to Raiders 21-17

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I think Reiss got the up/down right on.

Up: Zeke, Bourne, Peppers
Down: Parker, the OL, Roberts
 
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good luck signing free agents coming off a 3-14 season

IDK, it will depend on who Kraft hires to be the GM and head coach next year. They get someone like Ben Johnson and players may want to come here.
 
Bill will be a former GM soon enough.
That's a forgone conclusion at this point. The only question in my mind is do they draft high enough that a trade down nets them a slew of picks. But I can tell you I don't Bill Belichick making those decisions.
 
Parker's drop gave a lifeline to Mac's stans like he isn't the main reason why our offense is dog ****.
He wasn’t today. He wasn’t the reason the offensive line kept getting pre snap penalties. Or why his two best passes of the night got dropped. Or why the RB were anemic most of the night. Or why the defense got burned by Hoyer. Or why the defense let the Raiders constantly get in Patriots territory all night. Or why we had stupid trick plays getting sniffed out

He made his mistakes, but that offense looked like hot trash on all the plays he wasn’t involved with.

Everyone in the NFL realizes this is a top to bottom bad offense. Only extremely out of touch Patriots fans think one man is the problem. Fact is, you could keep Mac’s mistakes tonight’s and if the receivers didn’t drop passes they shouldn’t and the line wasn’t constantly getting penalties, it should have been a Pats win.

The problems exist outside of his problems as well.
 
Your an idiot and have been a hater as long as I can remember. Your just sitting there happy as can be throwing stones, relishing in the ashes of the dynasties. Spare me, you were a season ticket holder for this many years reply.
Bill is 26-30 without Brady on the Pats
edit: actually he's now 26-31
 
Wilson is better than Mac.
Any chance Jets let him for a third next offseason?
 
Mac was definitely... better today than the prior two weeks, but the screw ups were still there (one bad INT, nearly a second one), and it ultimately wasn't enough to matter against a bad Raiders team and freaking Brian Hoyer. I still see no reason to keep starting him. If they're gonna lose, you may as well lose developing players you think you'll keep long term.
I thought he was horrendously bad and listed all the reasons why
 
I wonder when Bill realizes that the Shula record is gone.
 
He wasn’t today. He wasn’t the reason the offensive line kept getting pre snap penalties. Or why his two best passes of the night got dropped. Or why the RB were anemic most of the night. Or why the defense got burned by Hoyer. Or why the defense let the Raiders constantly get in Patriots territory all night. Or why we had stupid trick plays getting sniffed out

He made his mistakes, but that offense looked like hot trash on all the plays he wasn’t involved with.

Everyone in the NFL realizes this is a top to bottom bad offense. Only extremely out of touch Patriots fans think one man is the problem. Fact is, you could keep Mac’s mistakes tonight’s and if the receivers didn’t drop passes they shouldn’t and the line wasn’t constantly getting penalties, it should have been a Pats win.

The problems exist outside of his problems as well.
How soon we all forget the unforced interception Mac had over throwing a wide open Henry while driving.
 
He wasn’t today. He wasn’t the reason the offensive line kept getting pre snap penalties. Or why his two best passes of the night got dropped. Or why the RB were anemic most of the night. Or why the defense got burned by Hoyer. Or why the defense let the Raiders constantly get in Patriots territory all night. Or why we had stupid trick plays getting sniffed out

He made his mistakes, but that offense looked like hot trash on all the plays he wasn’t involved with.

Everyone in the NFL realizes this is a top to bottom bad offense. Only extremely out of touch Patriots fans think one man is the problem. Fact is, you could keep Mac’s mistakes tonight’s and if the receivers didn’t drop passes they shouldn’t and the line wasn’t constantly getting penalties, it should have been a Pats win.

The problems exist outside of his problems as well.
You're hopelessly deluded
 
He wasn’t today. He wasn’t the reason the offensive line kept getting pre snap penalties. Or why his two best passes of the night got dropped. Or why the RB were anemic most of the night. Or why the defense got burned by Hoyer. Or why the defense let the Raiders constantly get in Patriots territory all night. Or why we had stupid trick plays getting sniffed out

He made his mistakes, but that offense looked like hot trash on all the plays he wasn’t involved with.

Everyone in the NFL realizes this is a top to bottom bad offense. Only extremely out of touch Patriots fans think one man is the problem. Fact is, you could keep Mac’s mistakes tonight’s and if the receivers didn’t drop passes they shouldn’t and the line wasn’t constantly getting penalties, it should have been a Pats win.

The problems exist outside of his problems as well.

I don't understand why people keep turning this into an "either or" exercise. They all can be bad.

It's fairly obvious the OL and offense as a whole is lacking talent. We don't have to pretend the OL is passable.

If the QB is the total reason the OL collapses instantly then Malik Cunningham should've lit it up. Or zappe in his relief stints.

Although Mac made that horrid pick overthrowing Henry. That was inexcusable.
 
Why do we have Devante Parker? Seriously, what point does he have in being on this roster?

This game was personally painful to me as I very much wanted them to resign Meyers and draft Mayer. Watching the two of them rip the Patriots' D was full-on grimace time.
 
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