PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots lose to Raiders 21-17

[captain stone]

https://atozsports.com/las-vegas/raiders-adam-butler-says-he-felt-disrespected-by-patriots-bill-belichick/

Wow Adam Butler is
Heated at Belichick.

Bill: New England's own Mister Warmth.

 

[PatsFan2]

You need to get off your computer and scream into a pillow or something. We get it -- you hate what you're seeing and expect doom and gloom from this team for the foreseeable future. With that abundantly established, perhaps it's time to find something positive out of the mess, however small, to focus on. Constructive criticism can lead to interesting discussion vs. just puking your disgust on everything.

Tune you are calling me out??
IF it makes you feel better I'm calling BB OUT!

 

[captain stone]

So he averaged 6 yards per attempt...woof

Yep, just a bunch of patty-cake ****... But **** Dorothy Parker too.

 

[RodThePat]

Mac Jones (Overall):
24/33 (72.7%) 200yds 1 INT

Mac Jones in the second half:
16/19 (84.2%) 103yds

Mac Jones 4th Quarter Stats:
11/13 (84.6%) 69yds

This is so funny. Down two scores and he's throwing the ball for 5 yards a pop racking up completions. History of Mac's career.

 

[1960Pats]

I hate when players air out their frustrations publicy
Never a good thing

It's just another sign that something is wrong.

 

[Fatmancryin]

As I said before, that's mis-allocating funds (in this case, spending too much on second/third-tier players and not spending enough on top-tier players), not "being cheap." He's not taking salary cap dollars and sticking them in his pocket.

This year:
Hunter Henry $15.5m
Trent Brown $12m
Carrying $12.5m in dead cap for Jonnu Smith.

That’s a 3rd of your 91m cap for the offense.

Cap mismanagement at its finest.

 

[captain stone]

fINGeRTiPSZ

Yep.

**** Dorothy Parker.

 

[Rob0729]

Hate to defend Parker but he never said the throw was bad, just that it hit him in the fingertips, which it did lol. The problem is it hit his fingertips while he was ALLIGATOR ARMING THE BALL.

I think he was implying it was an uncatchable ball because it was too far ahead of him. It really seemed like he deflected the blame to Mac.

I am surprised no one asked him about how he dogged it on the most lazy route I have ever seen earlier in the game.

 

[PatsFan2]

Now we know why Miami had no problem trading him within their own division. Year two and he can't get on the same page with Mac.

Don't tell that to some of the Homers because BB is so great in his decision making. Now even HE can't explain the Teams slow starts. It's called a Lack of Talent on Offense BB smh.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Imho, this would be Parker all over again. TH's also had the benefit of coming in at the same time as Burrow. I also get Golladay vibes.

Edit - just to expound on my probably very unpopular opinion again.
- slow
-bad vj
-really bad shuttle (opposite of welker)
-bad drop percentage
-sub par separation (yeah yeah "not his game yada yada")
-injuries

Not the type I'd back up the Brinks truck for.

I'm bad at stats, so I'll trust your judgement. I just know he performed well while Chase was out injured and there are no other options I see in free agency and he's a lot better than anything we have on our roster.

 

[SEA_Pat]

Lance got a 4th rounder and he hasn’t done jack squat in the NFL. That’s the floor. Mac should and will get at least that in a trade and probably more.

I think Mac can be productive on another team. Not this one though.

Lance was a higher draft pick with better physical traits. Mac has done much worse than jack squat - he's proven he doesn't have an NFL arm, brain or feet. He's a total bust, nobody is ponying up a draft pick for this bum.

 

[Rob0729]

Yeah. I go back and forth on whether we should have picked a tackle instead of Gonzo. We needed an OT really badly, but a number of them had been picked. And Gonzo falling to us was great. But our line is worse for it.

As for WR, I don't see who was the available option in free agency last year who we should have gotten who would have been better. Maybe Zay Flowers instead of Gonzo in the draft. But that's the same issue.

Really, we need to be all in on Tee Higgins this offseason.

I have no problem with the Gonzalez pick. He should have been a top 10 pick or higher. When a potential elite player drops to you in the middle of the first round, you take him especially when it was a position of need.

Where you can question is why they didn't take an OT in the next two picks.

As for this offseason, it will depend on the new coach and GM and what direction they are going. I would hope Kraft will higher people who value the offense and putting talent on the offense which would include a move like acquiring someone like Tee Higgins.

 

[PatsFan2]

I hate when players air out their frustrations publicy
Never a good thing

Have you seen D Parker play?? Sure you have...I love it when players have the balls to do that air out their feelings. What are we losing by not playing Boutte?? What does Parker bring that we don't already know?? Yeah nothing! Boutte seems to care about winning.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

A 4th? You can’t be serious. We would be lucky to get a 7th for him.

Trey Lance brought back a 4th after a demotion to 3rd string.

 

[Kontradiction]

Here’s a question that should tickle everyone’s testicles: has Michael McCorkle been David Carr’d? Two years behind a leaky OL with Bill, in all of his infinite wisdom, appointing a career DC and STC as the play callers in the 2022 season. Is he ruined?

 

[captain stone]

The Pat's defense kept Corky and his bumbling offense in the game.

Can't blame the Pats RBs and TEs this week.

Sure you can; they suck too (excluding Zeke, who Once Again out-played Rham no longer Tough).
And why wasn't the Pharaoh chipping Crosby instead of GeSucki?

 

[Rob0729]

Lance was a higher draft pick with better physical traits. Mac has done much worse than jack squat - he's proven he doesn't have an NFL arm, brain or feet. He's a total bust, nobody is ponying up a draft pick for this bum.

First, the 49ers used three first round picks on Lance and they didn't really want to play the guy even before Purdy emerged as a QB they could win with. Lance was a boom or bust player who has shown he is a bust.

Second, plenty of people in the media still think Mac Jones can be a product QB in the right system where there is a lot of talent around him. So odds are other teams think that way.

Third, the Lance trade was a Jerry Jones move that he did behind his own staff's back. So I don't know if any other team would have given anything for Lance.

 

[Rob0729]

Trey Lance brought back a 4th after a demotion to 3rd string.

The problem with the Lance comp is, as I said in my last post, was Jerry Jones going rogue and trading for him behind the Cowboys' back. If not for Jerrah, the 49ers might have only gotten a conditional pick.

 

[PatsFan2]

This year:
Hunter Henry $15.5m
Trent Brown $12m
Carrying $12.5m in dead cap for Jonnu Smith.

That’s a 3rd of your 91m cap for the offense.

Cap mismanagement at its finest.

My cousin Jonnu Smith said don't mention his name in the same sentence as the Patriots he thinks it's dirty thanks. But he loves your point.

 

[patsinthesnow]

current vegas win totals

panthers o3.5 -120
cardinals o4.5 +125
broncos o4.5 -110
pats o4.5 -125
giants o4.5 -160

bears N/A, probably 4.5. The next lowest team is at 6.5. Vegas has the pats safely with a top 6 pick. How high it is will come down to how they approach the giants and broncos games though.