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Yep, and we still don’t know if Mac has it… I suspect we’ll have a much, Much better idea of that in < 10 months time, for better or worse…
Bills were desperate and Allen slung it around. We didn't convert our pick opportunities, and the officiating again slanted heavily in our opponents' favor.
I think Hughes realized he screwed up by putting his hands on Mac and then tried to correct his mistake. My issue was with the officials deciding oh he didn’t mean it so let’s pick up the flag.
At first I was like - that's kindof late, but on repeated viewings, it looks like he punched the ball and not anywhere on Allen. Pls look at the angle of final contact - pretty parallel to the ground. Really good strike by Judon.
Good call. Looks like they just did exactly that.
No. I prefer they smash his face with their helmets, shove him face-first to the ground after he slides, or shove him then grab him and tug down when he's already out of bounds.
Moot point - Allen was still technically falling, and Judon didn't punch Allen in the stomach - he punched the ball at pretty close to parallel to the ground (not unlike a plane landing on the ground).
In the beginning of the gif you posted his back was still falling at a fast rate for a slow motion clip. Sure his butt was on the ground - can you please give the timestamp of the game if you have it? I'd like to see it in full speed with context to really provide accurate judgment.
To answer your question - have you seen the protective layers on his stomach? He'd barely flinch with all that padding! Wouldn't affect me either way unless it was Ivan Drago doing the punching.
This is such a bang-bang thing though. If Allen's body has JUST touched the ground and Judon is already throwing his fist down, his thought process was most likely that Allen might not be on the ground yet (hard to tell from above him I'd imagine) and perhaps his backside is actually resting on another player, so he's gonna try to punch the ball. I would guess that Allen's backside touching the ground and Judon's fist making contact with something occur within a fraction of a second of one another. But all we've got is this still image which doesn't really tell us much of anything.
The still photo doesn't really help your cause - his back was still falling, and that's what it looked like to Judon. Also, that's not the start of the windup - the actual beginning of the punch (like bringing the hand to this position) started well before this while he was still off the ground. Like I said previously, he seem to hit the ball square and didn't actually hit Allen. We'd need the full video to make the case.
Have you ever watched an NFL game?
