NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION Official 2023 Free Agency Thread

[One-If-By-Sea]

I wasn’t saying losing the player hurts its players like Rapp calling Buffalo a special place.
We need to get that stigma back.
We are now at that having to overpay players to join us vs other designations.

I doubt it. Are you sure? Why would a guy who started 17 games last year want to back up Poyer and Hyde? The most likely answer is that he did not want to be a backup but had no other offers. The Bills did not offer a contract to a backup at high dollars. Captain is right - we could have signed Rapp at low $$s because it looks like Rapp had no other choices. But we didn't like the Captain says. I have no idea why not.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

 

[hornetfb85]

 

[signbabybrady]

Again?

 

[Love The Drake]

To Az for Hopkins and a third?
Or to Dallas?
We need to grab Jeudy before Buff does.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

More sexual tension between diggs and allen

 

[Sicilian]

Again?

This is like that couple everyone knows who breaks up very publicly on Facebook every couple of months, only to get back together after you've already bad mouthed each of them to the other.

 

[Guts]

Great username Ohtani is going to be one of the greatest baseball players

 

[Zuma]

He specifically mentioned the Kansas City Chiefs as an option, stating that they would need him to take a “significant pay-cut” in order to trade for him. Breer agreed that the Chiefs would need to offer a low-end deal similar to the one JuJu Smith-Schuster signed with them a year ago.

Breer also mentioned the New England Patriots, saying they would only consider taking on Hopkins’ contract if they did not have to pay any draft picks to the Cardinals in return. Alternatively, they could pay “way way less” than what the Cardinals initially asked for, and Hopkins would need to adjust his contract in order for them to acquire the former All-Pro.

 

[signbabybrady]

He specifically mentioned the Kansas City Chiefs as an option, stating that they would need him to take a “significant pay-cut” in order to trade for him. Breer agreed that the Chiefs would need to offer a low-end deal similar to the one JuJu Smith-Schuster signed with them a year ago.

Breer also mentioned the New England Patriots, saying they would only consider taking on Hopkins’ contract if they did not have to pay any draft picks to the Cardinals in return. Alternatively, they could pay “way way less” than what the Cardinals initially asked for, and Hopkins would need to adjust his contract in order for them to acquire the former All-Pro.

Sounds like we are waiting for him to be cut. Hopefully the idea that we would take his current contract if there was no draft compensation means that we might be willing to pay him more than the chiefs otherwise he'd choose them. He might choose them either way but on this one I don't think we'd have a chance unless we pay more.

Sounds like there is still a chance tho.

 

[Sicilian]

Hard to see Hopkins choosing NE over KC right now unless the money difference is significant. It could work in our favor if he prefers to be the big fish in an offense, but I have no idea if that really matters to him. Still, the idea of adding Hopkins as a FA and keeping all of our draft picks is something worth hoping for IMO.

 

[Love The Drake]

The Bills as well as Cowboys could be in play here as well.

 

[DW Toys]

I'd use pick 14 on DL if not LT

Cousin,
Good start your day breakfast of toasted banana bread with butter and seedless rasberry jam, OJ and coffer with carmel sweetener.

DW Toys Trade-A-Rama for the 16th year is coming up....16 years!!! I will give you a preview Cousins. I agree with Signbaby in my Trade A Rama. I have us trading down with Seattle in the first and them going after a QB Will Levis to sit behind Geno Smith..
They get our #14 for their #20 and their #52 in the second and a swap of picks in the third of our #76 for their #83 to make the numbers work more equitable. We gain a second rounder.

With #20 I am going Bryan Bresee DT Clemson.

Then the Trades start....Now OL. I tried to fit our needs for LT by swapping second rounders (our #46 for their #60) with the Bengas and Trent Brown (they need a RT and Jonah Williams is reluctant and wants a trade) for said mentioned Jonah Williams. He's on his rookie deal. It give us a year to see if he is our lifelong LT.

DW Toys

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Have any of these trades ever happened? Or is this alternate universe fan fic?

 

[catent]

Looks like a really deep class, but if Joey Porter is there at 14...

Not a fan of Porter at all. Sloppy technique, poor functional strength, bad footwork, more bark than bite (just like his dad). Strikes me as a very unpolished player. His raw athleticism is his only major positive currently.

Gonzalez and Witherspoon are my 1/1a CBs (in either order), and Porter is a distant second.

I’d be 100% all-in for either Gonzalez or Witherspoon if they’re available at the 14th pick, and wouldn’t mind trading other assets to move up and grab both, if one falls into the late-teens or early 20s (which is very unlikely IMO).

 

[JackBauer]

I wasn’t saying losing the player hurts its players like Rapp calling Buffalo a special place.
We need to get that stigma back.
We are now at that having to overpay players to join us vs other designations.

I don't think it's particularly noteworthy for a player to say nice things about the team they just signed with.

Stigma is not anything they'd ever want to get back.

Is there any basis at all for the claim that NE has to overpay players to get them to sign?

 

[Love The Drake]

I don't think it's particularly noteworthy for a player to say nice things about the team they just signed with.

Stigma is not anything they'd ever want to get back.

Is there any basis at all for the claim that NE has to overpay players to get them to sign?

Jonnu smith and Kendrick Bourne both said Patriots offered the most money.
I’m guessing the same was true for Henry and Agholar.

Jonnus words were something along the lines that other teams didn’t come close financially.

 

[Patsgofor4]

The Bills as well as Cowboys could be in play here as well.

Guessing without evidence is fun. It seems highly unlikely that the Cowboys will pursue another high-priced veteran, after adding Cooks.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Hard to see Hopkins choosing NE over KC right now unless the money difference is significant. It could work in our favor if he prefers to be the big fish in an offense, but I have no idea if that really matters to him. Still, the idea of adding Hopkins as a FA and keeping all of our draft picks is something worth hoping for IMO.

The Chiefs have only $4.5 million in cap space, prior to paying for their upcoming draft picks. They restructured several of their big contracts, each of the last two years. I question whether they would go down that road again, even for a a talent like Hopkins. They last restructured Mahomes contract in 2021. They could do another restructure of his contract, but that would lead to some massive cap numbers in future years.

 

[Love The Drake]

Guessing without evidence is fun. It seems highly unlikely that the Cowboys will pursue another high-priced veteran, after adding Cooks.

Well the link to Buff has been well documents and yes prior to cooks both Micah Parsons and Dez were recruiting Hopkins.

Now that they’re maybe no draft compensation Dallas getting Hopkins could come to fruition.