NFLPA says, "18 game season... no way"

[oldrover]

Right on the money. What would Brady know about the seasons he has played in, he's just a player, you on the other hand watch some of those games and have a much much better understanding of the toll football takes on a player, Brady would have no idea what that's like.

Are you this condescending on all threads, or just this one?

 

[Ivan]

Are you this condescending on all threads, or just this one?

It's contextual, I save it for know it all's who know nothing about what they are talking about. It is beyond obvious that football as it already exists beats the sh.t out of the players, and asking them to go beyond what they are already doing and claiming it makes no difference is complete crap, thus the condescension.

 

[Ivan]

Are you this condescending on all threads, or just this one?

And by the way, this comment from a guy who just called out Tom Brady on how many games he played in a season is about as ironic as it gets. It doesn't get more ridiculous than people like you talking down to NFL players about how hard their game is on them.

 

[oldrover]

Just so you know, in the adult world, people use facts and logic to make arguments. So you have that to look forward to.

If Brady calls the sky green, will you agree? Brady has never played 20 games in a season.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Folks can be as obtuse as they want, ignoring biology that there are limits to humans in impact sports, but ignoring biology and simply doing math (I know, Math Is Hard!!!) by adding 2 games to the season you, no ifs ands or buts, raise the probability that someone new goes on IR or misses games (and the next games to be missed are playoff games) by 12.5%.

Let's say that the Pats typically have 8 guys out on IR or just out a couple weeks (actual #s are twice this) then odds are you could well lose yet another player for the playoffs. Lovely.

This doesn't matter for the perennial loser franchises but if your goal is playing on Feb, it's a big deal.

 

[Deus Irae]

Are you this condescending on all threads, or just this one?

Just so you know, in the adult world, people use facts and logic to make arguments. So you have that to look forward to.

If Brady calls the sky green, will you agree? Brady has never played 20 games in a season.

 

[Tom meets Kaepernick]

Just so you know, in the adult world, people use facts and logic to make arguments. So you have that to look forward to.

If Brady calls the sky green, will you agree? Brady has never played 20 games in a season.

Pot meet Kettle..:singing:

 

[Ivan]

Just so you know, in the adult world, people use facts and logic to make arguments. So you have that to look forward to.

You mean like the "logic" that more games won't mean more injuries and more long term health problems?

I didn't think it could get more ironic but now you are lecturing about logic? LMFAO

And by the way grandpa, football players aren't actually superheroes who don't get hurt no matter how much violence they endure, they are actually people who do get injured and suffer long term health consequences from the living they make. I'm guessing you forgot that when the old age dementia set in.

 

[SB39]

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the Patriots have averaged playing exactly 18 games over the past 11 seasons. Where is the evidence that their players are so much more significantly injured than any other team playing only 16? This year was a tough year on the injury front, but I am just not seeing anything that is long term out of the norm.

 

[Ivan]

Just so you know, in the adult world, people use facts and logic to make arguments.

As a matter of fact that's how those of us who oppose adding more games to the season came to the conclusion that it would be really bad for the player's health, facts and logic, it's a shame you no longer have those abilities.

 

[oldrover]

Folks can be as obtuse as they want, ignoring biology that there are limits to humans in impact sports, but ignoring biology and simply doing math (I know, Math Is Hard!!!) by adding 2 games to the season you, no ifs ands or buts, raise the probability that someone new goes on IR or misses games (and the next games to be missed are playoff games) by 12.5%.

Let's say that the Pats typically have 8 guys out on IR or just out a couple weeks (actual #s are twice this) then odds are you could well lose yet anothter player for the playoffs. Lovely.

This doesn't matter for the perennial loser franchises but if your goal is playing on Feb, it's a big deal.

Actually the Pats have an edge if the roster and schedule is expanded. I'd take Belichick in building a deeper, more effective roster, over anyone.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Actually the Pats have an edge if the roster and schedule is expanded. I'd take Belichick in building a deeper, more effective roster, over anyone.

You're right, we've done so well with depth the last playoff seasons

 

[oldrover]

Uh... yeah... AFC championship game 3 straight years... and a playoff record over .500... plus a Super Bowl where we were one drop away from winning...

 

[Deus Irae]

Uh... yeah... AFC championship game 3 straight years...

Starter, not depth

 

[oldrover]

The depth got us there. Last year? No Vince, Kelly, Mayo?

Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier both went down in the 1976 AFC championship game. You think Pitt should have had a HOF running back on the bench? And they were only playing 14 game seasons then.

 

[Observer]

1. Shows they're worried about lawsuits.

2. The fact that their are injuries at other times doesn't mean that tired players in season and less recovery time off season and less preparation time pre season wouldn't lead to more injuries.

We go deep into the playoffs more on a consistent basis than about anyone and always seem to have lots of injuries.

The new CBA limited the number of padded practices and overall time actually playing in the offseason thus increasing the recovery time. Did that lead to a significant reduction in injuries?

 

[Fencer]

Classic use for a labor union -- standing up for safe(r) or more pleasant working conditions in a way that would be essentially impossible without collective action.

Note that safety and injury avoidance are not exactly the same thing, so the injuries last season do not disprove the theory that reducing padded practices will let guys have healthier post-football lives.

 

[Froob]

This is a bad idea and the NFL should feel bad. Anymore than 16 games and 12 playoff teams and each game starts to dilute. It's perfect how it is. Don't mess with perfection.

 

[oldrover]

This is a bad idea and the NFL should feel bad. Anymore than 16 games and 12 playoff teams and each game starts to dilute. It's perfect how it is. Don't mess with perfection.

So... going from 12 to 14 is great.

14 to 16, ditto.

More than 16 is bad? You guys sound like the fogies from the 60s and 70s who were against those expansions. That all worked out okay. But now the sky is falling. LOL

 

[Raymond]

So... going from 12 to 14 is great.

14 to 16, ditto.

More than 16 is bad? You guys sound like the fogies from the 60s and 70s who were against those expansions. That all worked out okay. But now the sky is falling. LOL

Go look at the sizes of the players on Miami's 1972 team. Players were much smaller. Today everybody is bigger, faster, stronger.

Now, the NFL is enacting new rules to protect players and to avoid injuries while at the same time considering extending the season and you don't see anything wrong with that?