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Michael Irvin apparently back on Crack.... once again.

Dr Phil?????????????????????????????WTF???????????????????

Kara Henderson close up on my 55' hdtv is a very, verrrrrrry bad thing, scary.

I'm waiting for Sicilaino's ears to start flapping and see him fly away. Him and Henderson paired up are so annoying.

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Station has become like Entertainment Tonight, it's a gossipy, feminized sports channel. I don't care what the reasons are, that they're doing it to get a wider audience. I haven't watched ESPN in years and am very close to doing the same with NFLN. I know I don't have to watch - just venting.

Daily News, NY Post, Twitter????

Tebow

Again, Dr Phil?????????????????????????????WTF

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Like Bill says, it is what it is and in this case it's all about wide appeal and ratings and they are competing with Entertainment Tonight...

Serious or core football fans are a captive audience, they're pandering to the casual, ADHD fanboy, Madden video gamer and fantasy football generation driven audience.
 

Serious or core football fans are a captive audience, they're pandering to the casual, ADHD fanboy, Madden video gamer and fantasy football generation driven audience.


MLR, you summed it up very well right there. Yes, the NFLN is a huge disappointment to me, but the bottom line is ... their bottom line.

It should also be noted that nearly all the top level executives are former espn employees. No point in hoping or expecting something drastically different from what espn offers (Around the Horn, Pardon the Interruption, etc.); they were probably hired based on their commercial success in Bristol, with the understanding they would attempt to duplicate the formula on NFLN.
 
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What would be the point of watching NFLN regularly during the offseason?

The channel is worthwhile because of their televised live events, documentaries, and replays.

I can't fathom why anyone with the internet would go there for news.
 
Like Bill says, it is what it is and in this case it's all about wide appeal and ratings and they are competing with Entertainment Tonight...

Serious or core football fans are a captive audience, they're pandering to the casual, ADHD fanboy, Madden video gamer and fantasy football generation driven audience.

Definitely pandering to the casual viewer. Does anything point to their target audience more than that Cam Newton commercial, (for Under Armour, I think)? It's wrong on every level.
 
What would be the point of watching NFLN regularly during the offseason?

The channel is worthwhile because of their televised live events, documentaries, and replays.

I can't fathom why anyone with the internet would go there for news.

Don't go for news, more like background noise working out of the home office. With free agency and the draft, it could be a lot better if they were aware there were more than two players in the NFL.
 
What would be the point of watching NFLN regularly during the offseason?

The channel is worthwhile because of their televised live events, documentaries, and replays.

I can't fathom why anyone with the internet would go there for news.

I can see what you are saying in regards to news; that makes perfect sense.

I think the missing piece is informative detailed analysis, commentary and opinion. While the internet can provide that as well, what it doesn't provide very well are dialogues with differing opinions between 'expert analysts'.

Message boards like this fill that void, but wouldn't it be nice to have a couple of former coaches or general managers debating some of the things that get debated here, for example? Two people discussing the pros and cons of the Patriots signing Mario Williams, Mike Wallace, or signing neither one and spreading the money over multiple players, for instance. That's probably too provincial, but you could open it up to fifteen minutes per division with various analysts, and there's a pretty good two-hour show.


However, as Mo mentioned above, there is a certain number of people that are only interested in whatever today's number one story is, so it is doubtful this will ever occur.
 
Are they still showing the 'top 5 plays' commercial 8x an hour? I really couldn't take that one anymore.
 
Tebow, Manning, Tebow, Tebow, Tebow

Michael Irvin apparently back on Crack.... once again.


Tebow, Tebow, Tebow

Manning, Manning, Tebow

Tebow, Tebow, Tebow

Tebow, Tebow, Tebow

Station has become like Entertainment Tonight, it's a gossipy, feminized sports channel. I don't care what the reasons are, that they're doing it to get a wider audience. I haven't watched ESPN in years and am very close to doing the same with NFLN. I know I don't have to watch - just venting.


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However, as Mo mentioned above, there is a certain number of people that are only interested in whatever today's number one story is, so it is doubtful this will ever occur.

I think media companies are notorious for the tactic of using research data to steer programming, especially when they aren't given a large budget for content production.

I'm sure they've found out that "75% of viewers watch for 15-30 minutes" or whatever and want to make sure information is recycled at about that rate. You can also tell by the advertising (much of it for NFLN itself) that there is not a lot of money coming from that direction, especially in the offseason, leading to low production values in general.

They are trying to offset that by asking the cable companies for high rights fees (a la ESPN, the most expensive and richest cable channel), which some of them refuse to pay, leading to the large number of customers with no access to NFLN.

It's fun to watch during the draft, though.
 
I can see what you are saying in regards to news; that makes perfect sense.

I think the missing piece is informative detailed analysis, commentary and opinion. While the internet can provide that as well, what it doesn't provide very well are dialogues with differing opinions between 'expert analysts'.

Message boards like this fill that void, but wouldn't it be nice to have a couple of former coaches or general managers debating some of the things that get debated here, for example? Two people discussing the pros and cons of the Patriots signing Mario Williams, Mike Wallace, or signing neither one and spreading the money over multiple players, for instance. That's probably too provincial, but you could open it up to fifteen minutes per division with various analysts, and there's a pretty good two-hour show.


However, as Mo mentioned above, there is a certain number of people that are only interested in whatever today's number one story is, so it is doubtful this will ever occur.

I'd like to see Mayock and maybe Charles Davis do an hour long draft show once a week, not because they're the greatest evaluators of talent but because they can discuss football without all the other nonsense. 6 hour long shows before the draft, how hard would that be?
 
Don't go for news, more like background noise working out of the home office. With free agency and the draft, it could be a lot better if they were aware there were more than two players in the NFL.

Yeah, exactly. I like to have a "FootBally" background when I'm working on Yon Site, as I am, this morn, but it took Irvin's mouth about 20-30 SECONDS to send me FLEEING.

As you say: that degenerate is clearly back AT it.

I'd bet cold hard CASH on it, based on watching him.
 
It's certainly got its moments ~ Top 100, Top 10 Stuff, The Draft, Old Super Bowls, et cetera ~ but when considering that it's a station allegedly dedicated to FOOTBALL, it's pretty disgusting that their content is so VAPID that I often go days or even WEEKS without tuning in.

I'd almost be better off listening to Feltcher and his contemptible ilk.

It's pretty sad when an Uma Thurman movie does a better job of enhancing and elevating my FootBall Game Face than the so-called FOOTBALL channel!!

Of course, we're talking Kill Bill, here!!
 
It's still better than ESPN but that said you have to pick what you watch. Path to the draft is mostly good especially when Mayock is on. Total Access it depends on who the in studio talent is. Sapp and Irvin are idiots. Faulk is actually pretty good when talking about game film but is so biased that they should never let him talk about players or teams.

They do need to show more of Michelle Beisner's legs.
 
Tebow, Manning, Tebow, Tebow, Tebow

Michael Irvin apparently back on Crack.... once again.

Dr Phil?????????????????????????????WTF???????????????????

Kara Henderson close up on my 55' hdtv is a very, verrrrrrry bad thing, scary.

I'm waiting for Sicilaino's ears to start flapping and see him fly away. Him and Henderson paired up are so annoying.

Tebow, Tebow, Tebow

Manning, Manning, Tebow

Tebow, Tebow, Tebow

Tebow, Tebow, Tebow

Station has become like Entertainment Tonight, it's a gossipy, feminized sports channel. I don't care what the reasons are, that they're doing it to get a wider audience. I haven't watched ESPN in years and am very close to doing the same with NFLN. I know I don't have to watch - just venting.

Daily News, NY Post, Twitter????

Tebow

Again, Dr Phil?????????????????????????????WTF

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the sports media in this country is absolutely putrid. has been for a long long time. the way spysh!t was covered and the way it is still being framed by the media idiots is a abomination and a insult to ones intelligence.
 
It's mostly background noise for me now. Except when Irvin, Faulk, and Sanders are on together then the noise gets to be too much. Glad I have MLBN.
 
I think media companies are notorious for the tactic of using research data to steer programming, especially when they aren't given a large budget for content production.

I know and have known this for decades, and yet,I STILL get all bent way out of shape when I put that station on and expect anything other than what you describe.It's like I'm this giant rat addicted to sports information crack.

Andrew Siciliano has a face made for radio.
 
It's still better than ESPN but that said you have to pick what you watch. Path to the draft is mostly good especially when Mayock is on. Total Access it depends on who the in studio talent is. Sapp and Irvin are idiots. Faulk is actually pretty good when talking about game film but is so biased that they should never let him talk about players or teams.

They do need to show more of Michelle Beisner's legs.

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Andrew Siciliano has a face made for radio.

I've wondered how that guy was able to rise through the ranks of broadcasters to land such a prestigious job. I think there's a novelty factor at work here. Maybe something like Equal Opportunity Hiring for glib, overconfident midgets with ears bigger than their face. "Hey! This Andrew kid looks like a Mouseketeers escapee and has never actually touched a football, but he can deliver the goods in spite of himself! Let's put him on prime time!"

On the other hand, I lust after Kara Henderson. Love her voice, too.

They do need to show more of Michelle Beisner's legs.

She tries waaay too hard to be Miss Glamor Gal. Nothing natural about her.
 
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