My new Patriots mock

[ctpatsfan77]

I have the Pats trading #7 to the Falcons for the Falcons #34, #37 in round 2 and #103 in round 4.The rating numbers are almost a perfect match.

I'm sorry, but I have to say I find the idea of trading out of the first round altogether, well, meh.

How often does a team that makes the Super Bowl have a top-10 draft pick the next year? I'm not saying that the Pats should stick with the #7 pick; that said, though, even if they trade down, they should be able to get a top-16 talent signed for six years, and still get an extra second and/or third.

On top of this, your math doesn't work out. #7 = 1500. #34 + #37 + #103 = 560 + 530 + ~88 < 1200. So unless you have them throwing in at least their second in 2009, I don't see this happening.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I'm sorry, but I have to say I find the idea of trading out of the first round altogether, well, meh.

How often does a team that makes the Super Bowl have a top-10 draft pick the next year? I'm not saying that the Pats should stick with the #7 pick; that said, though, even if they trade down, they should be able to get a top-16 talent signed for six years, and still get an extra second and/or third.

I agree with you 100%. I like the idea of staying in the first round in the teens, if we can find a dance partner. And even though there is not a big drop off from a player in the 20's to a player in the 30's in terms of talent, I believe there is a material drop off after the first 6 players and again a slightly less material drop off after #18.

 

[Metaphors]

I agree with you 100%. I like the idea of staying in the first round in the teens, if we can find a dance partner. And even though there is not a big drop off from a player in the 20's to a player in the 30's in terms of talent, I believe there is a material drop off after the first 6 players and again a slightly less material drop off after #18.

Having McFadden drop to #7 is the best chance IMO to get what you are looking for. Detroit might part with #15 and #45 to get McFadden since they have an extra 3rd from the Browns trade...especially if they think Mendenhall won't make it to #15.

The math works out, Detroit gets their version of AP (they hope) and the Pats get a solid player on defense (Harvey, Rivers, McKelvin, Jenkins) signed for 6 years. The Pats then have the ammo (#45 + #62 + #69 = 980 pts) to move back up and grab a Groves/Cason/Lofton. Sounds good to me.

 

[DaBruinz]

Having McFadden drop to #7 is the best chance IMO to get what you are looking for. Detroit might part with #15 and #45 to get McFadden since they have an extra 3rd from the Browns trade...especially if they think Mendenhall won't make it to #15.

The math works out, Detroit gets their version of AP (they hope) and the Pats get a solid player on defense (Harvey, Rivers, McKelvin, Jenkins) signed for 6 years. The Pats then have the ammo (#45 + #62 + #69 = 980 pts) to move back up and grab a Groves/Cason/Lofton. Sounds good to me.

When have the Pats ever traded 3 picks to move up in a round under Belichick? Never to my knowledge.

There just isn't the value there to do that.

 

[Metaphors]

When have the Pats ever traded 3 picks to move up in a round under Belichick? Never to my knowledge.

There just isn't the value there to do that.

Don't believe I ever said they would trade 3 picks or even that they would trade back into the first round:

The Pats then have the ammo (#45 + #62 + #69 = 980 pts) to move back up and grab a Groves/Cason/Lofton.

This means that they would have 980 value points to use to move up. You can throw in pick #94 (124 points) for a total of about 1100 points of meaningful draft capital to put in play.

They could package #45 and #69 and move back into the 1st round. They could package #62 and #69 for a reasonably high 2nd round pick (keeping #45). They could package #45 and #94 to get close to the top of round 2.

My point was that the Pats would have plenty of options for getting who they want. I'm not down with the idea that the Pats keep trading down and collect a legion of rookies to integrate into the 2008 team.

 

[DW Toys]

I'm sorry, but I have to say I find the idea of trading out of the first round altogether, well, meh.

How often does a team that makes the Super Bowl have a top-10 draft pick the next year? I'm not saying that the Pats should stick with the #7 pick; that said, though, even if they trade down, they should be able to get a top-16 talent signed for six years, and still get an extra second and/or third.

On top of this, your math doesn't work out. #7 = 1500. #34 + #37 + #103 = 560 + 530 + ~88 < 1200. So unless you have them throwing in at least their second in 2009, I don't see this happening.

I have 640 and 680 on my numbers . Seems like there is more than one set.
DW Toys