My mind was changed today…

[cmasspatsfan]

I know one thing, next year's draft is going to be must watch. Things are going to be really interesting this offseason, I wouldn't be surprised if Bill is back .

 

[signbabybrady]

I'm all for bringing in that Vet but who is it? It's slim pickings.

If we can't find one in FA or trade I think you have no choice but to take a swing for QB. It's why we went Mac and you can't let one mistake make you gun shy and lead to another so keep swinging.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

I'm all for bringing in that Vet but who is it? It's slim pickings.

If we can't find one in FA or trade I think you have no choice but to take a swing for QB. It's why we went Mac and you can't let one mistake make you gun shy and lead to another so keep swinging.

WE can also trade for an OL as rare as that may be.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

nah we should draft a kicker with the top 3 pick

 

[PatsfanTN]

Pats fans are obsessed with a QB. « Can’t win without a QB ». Pfft.

SF is the best team in the league with Purdy - who is good, but hardly a first overall.

Allen is supposedly good : teams with better records going into this week - Indy with Minshew / Cleveland with Flacco / Cindy with a newb…

Hurts is a second rounder, Dak (who is horse crap today) was drafted in the fourth. Brady was a 6th rounder and Russell Wilson wasn’t taken early either. List goes on.

Who are the first rounders ? Mahomes. Awesome player. Herbert, overrated. Mac, Zach, Fields, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones….

Allen and Burrows and Lawrence are VG but each has flaws, none are likely SB winners any time soon.

QB is the most important position on the field. So, yeah.

 

[JohnJH]

Get your QB
Maye or Williams whoever it may be if you like them draft him
Then fill out your pieces accordingly
QB is the biggest need

The Bengals got THE QB, then added weapons. Their O-Line isn't special, but Burrow works around them (while they can build-up the O-Line until it's much better). Brady has had some good O-Lines, but even when he had ones that weren't as good, he still got the job done. If you can get THE GUY at QB, then you do it!!! You're right. We have holes to fill, but having a Franchise QB who can survive a decent, but not great O-Line because of his talent and some weapons, will do while you continually build a better O-Line.

 

[NFL Mystique]

I don't think that is a good idea at all. If a stud QB is there you take him. It's alot easier to find functional OL than QB's.

 

[palialka]

I'm all for bringing in that Vet but who is it? It's slim pickings.

If we can't find one in FA or trade I think you have no choice but to take a swing for QB. It's why we went Mac and you can't let one mistake make you gun shy and lead to another so keep swinging.

This is why our most important signing this off season is a competent GM who can make these difficult personnel decisions work.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Pats fans are obsessed with a QB. « Can’t win without a QB ». Pfft.

SF is the best team in the league with Purdy - who is good, but hardly a first overall.

Allen is supposedly good : teams with better records going into this week - Indy with Minshew / Cleveland with Flacco / Cindy with a newb…

Hurts is a second rounder, Dak (who is horse crap today) was drafted in the fourth. Brady was a 6th rounder and Russell Wilson wasn’t taken early either. List goes on.

Who are the first rounders ? Mahomes. Awesome player. Herbert, overrated. Mac, Zach, Fields, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones….

Allen and Burrows and Lawrence are VG but each has flaws, none are likely SB winners any time soon.

So...just draft a top three TE, draft/trade for a likely HOF RB, draft/trade for a HOF lineman. To finish up, draft two #1 receivers. On D, draft a HOF pass rusher & borderline HOF linebacker.

To finish up, find an elite GM. Pair said GM with one of the top offensive minds/HC's in the game.

Looks like the team is set after that

 

[BHPatriot]

As others have mentioned, it's easier to find a good tackle late in the first or early second (i.e. Light and Solder). Trent Brown helped the Patriots win the sixth SB and he was drafted in the 7th round. If they can't get Williams, get one of the other ones. The guy might suck, but drafting a Tackle would just delay things even longer as we wait to find the franchise QB. They missed on Mac so swing again. That's where we're at. In addition to drafting a QB in the first, try to draft the next Brady in the 6th or Purdy in the 7th. Better than drafting guards, kickers, and punters.

 

[palialka]

I don't think that is a good idea at all. If a stud QB is there you take him. It's alot easier to find functional OL than QB's.

If we do draft a QB, we can’t leave him hanging with what we have now as an OL otherwise we’ll have another Mac/Zappe situation which no one wants.

 

[Pape]

If the opportunity is there, you take it. You Get the Quarterback, no question.

As for calling out McDermott, going to quibble here - As a starter, he's not what we want - however, he's only starting at LT because Trent Brown is injured, again. McDermott is fine as a depth piece, a spot starter, who's better suited to the right side. I'd jettison Brown, but i'd hang onto McDermott until you find a better depth piece.

 

[farn]

So...just draft a top three TE, get a HOF lineman, get two #1caliber receivers. Oh, and one of the top offensive minds/HC's in the game.

Yeah. That seems plausible....

It isn’t. But OL is usually a surer thing than QB. WR has recently (not by NE) been easier to gauge as well. There is also FA that can be an avenue to acquire talent.

Shanny isn’t the reason. The players are. I could have beaten the Cards today as HC. Let’s keep it real.

 

[palialka]

As others have mentioned, it's easier to find a good tackle late in the first or early second (i.e. Light and Solder). Trent Brown helped the Patriots win the sixth SB and he was drafted in the 7th round. If they can't get Williams, get one of the other ones. The guy might suck, but drafting a Tackle would just delay things even longer as we wait to find the franchise QB. They missed on Mac so swing again. That's where we're at. In addition to drafting a QB in the first, try to draft the next Brady in the 6th or Purdy in the 7th. Better than drafting guards, kickers, and punters.

This offensive rebuild is going to take a couple of years at least so I don’t see an issue with rebuilding the line first and then going after the franchise QB in the following draft.

This rebuild isn’t a quick fix, we have to do it the right way to get back to where we want to be.

Now, if the Pats organization thinks one of these 3 QBs is a can’t miss guy, then by all means grab him…but I don’t think we should force a QB pick for the sake of drafting one because we don’t have a viable QB on the current roster.

This debate just illustrates how badly we need to hire a competent GM this off season…that’s the most important signing actually.

 

[NFL Mystique]

If we do draft a QB, we can’t leave him hanging with what we have now as an OL otherwise we’ll have another Mac/Zappe situation which no one wants.

You don't have too.

At worst, sit the QB for a year and improve the line as you go with Mayfield or Zappe as the starter.

 

[jimnance]

There is speculation about Chargers trading for Belichick with their 1st rounder, currently #5.
It's a longshot imo and I think Bolts would be nuts to do this, but.....
It does raise daydreams of Pats snagging Maye and Harrison. Holy ****!!
Humor me for a minute.. then you sign a vet qb, pay him well in the short term, let Maye learn rhe offense and the nfl.
Then in 2024 draft you get your stud lt with your 1st rounder. So Maye takes over in 2024 ready to go and Harrison has a,year of exp. under his belt plus Douglas
one more year of experience.
****, I can dream can't I

 

[Patriot Missile]

If OLs the plan we need to trade down and accumulate maybe a 2nd rounder this year and a 25 first.

I would still take my shot on a qb if there’s a guy on the board you think is special.

No, tough ****, if the Dolphins can get two firsts and 2nd for Tunsil and 3 1st rounders for the 3rd pick from the 49ers than thats what needs to be done. No more settling, the markets been set. They want a franchise qb or a generational wr? than they need to fork up.

 

[Patriot Missile]

So...just draft a top three TE, draft/trade for a likely HOF RB, draft/trade for a HOF lineman. To finish up, draft two #1 receivers. On D, draft a HOF pass rusher & borderline HOF linebacker.

To finish up, find an elite GM. Pair said GM with one of the top offensive minds/HC's in the game.

Looks like the team is set after that

That was funny. Yeah, I mean, peanuts for CMC, why the Chiefs or Bills were unwilling to do that was beyond me. Deebo, Kittle, Aiyuk, best blocking fb Juszczyk, solid oline, top 5 defense. I mean, how are those guys winning?

 

[BHPatriot]

This offensive rebuild is going to take a couple of years at least so I don’t see an issue with rebuilding the line first and then going after the franchise QB in the following draft.

This rebuild isn’t a quick fix, we have to do it the right way to get back to where we want to be.

Now, if the Pats organization thinks one of these 3 QBs is a can’t miss guy, then by all means grab him…but I don’t think we should force a QB pick for the sake of drafting one because we don’t have a viable QB on the current roster.

This debate just illustrates how badly we need to hire a competent GM this off season…that’s the most important signing actually.

I was exaggerating a bit about drafting just any QB, but I think it's tough to predict even for good GMs. Your odds of picking the right guy are higher if you pick the 1st, 2nd or 3rd best guy in the draft. Lynch is viewed as a good GM and he struck out badly with Lance and was fortunate to get Purdy.

 

[Hyped]

OL isn't as bad as it is right now, IMO.

1.) Resign Onwenu. He is an all pro RG, IMO...but he can play RT and fill in at LT if needed.

2.) Give Strange another year. Results are mixed on him, IMO.

3.) Mafi/Sow can compete for interior OL-men jobs or start if we kick Onwenu out for good.

4.) McDermott is a decent swing tackle..starting experience at both spots.

5.) How is Jake Andrews doing? Is it possible that be could take over for Dave Andrews when Dave hangs them up?

6.) We just need a Trent Brown replacement at LT. That is the issue, IMO.

7.) We need a blocking TE too. We have no TE's under contact next year. It is one of the reasons we have so much cap space....

8.) But I say if we have a top 2 pick...have to take the damn QB if the brass believes the QB can be elite at this level. WR can be somewhat inproved in free agency (Tee Higgins, Jerry Jeudy, and etc..) and we can find a tackle in the later rounds...