Matthew Golden

[bakes781]

Ok let's talk....

Matthew Golden who just ran a 4.29 officially.

He was not on anyone's radar until the CFP. That's when he climbed into the 1st round discussion.

After today a case could be made that we have a new name to consider at the top of the draft.

 

[manxman2601]

I think he'll jump Tet as no 1 for sure. The idea of trading back into the first for him has gone.

 

[bakes781]

I think he'll jump Tet as no 1 for sure. The idea of trading back into the first for him has gone.

So would you take him at 4?

 

[manxman2601]

So would you take him at 4?

No, although I need to study him.

 

[turkeyneck]

Having watched a fair number of TX games I have to say Golden is a bit of an enigma. He'll flash some plays here and there but then have stretches where he can't be found. He teases that he's really good but TX didn't feature him as a weapon.

 

[AQPE]

Very high knucklehead potential. Ipso facto, have fun in Pittsburgh Matthew!

 

[WaterfallJumper]

He's got a bit of Chase to him. All the tools are there (wins at the line, smooth and agile routes, blazing speed), but his production was really up and down. I'm split. If we trade down within the top ten and take him, I wouldn't complain. At four I start to feel uncomfortable with the value proposition. But he does look a bit like Deion Branch or even Tyreek Hill. Is that worth the 4th overall pick? I'd almost say yes if it elevates Maye.

 

[bakes781]

He's got a bit of Chase to him. All the tools are there (wins at the line, smooth and agile routes, blazing speed), but his production was really up and down. I'm split. If we trade down within the top ten and take him, I wouldn't complain. At four I start to feel uncomfortable with the value proposition. But he does look a bit like Deion Branch or even Tyreek Hill. Is that worth the 4th overall pick? I'd almost say yes if it elevates Maye.

A lot of Santonio Holmes comps are being made.

 

[manxman2601]

He only had two games with over 100 yards receiving. There's more production than Shemar Stewart, but there's still a bit of a production deficit.

 

[bakes781]

He only had two games with over 100 yards receiving. There's more production than Shemar Stewart, but there's still a bit of a production deficit.

He only caught on during the CFP and I'd prefer a guy that hasn't been over used at the skill position.

 

[manxman2601]

He only caught on during the CFP and I'd prefer a guy that hasn't been over used at the skill position.

I prefer a guy who's consistent. I'm not picking a guy at 4 that "only caught on" for two games.

 

[JohnJH]

Ok let's talk....

Matthew Golden who just ran a 4.29 officially.

He was not on anyone's radar until the CFP. That's when he climbed into the 1st round discussion.

After today a case could be made that we have a new name to consider at the top of the draft.

And like last year when they wanted to trade back into the 1st Round to get Xavier Leggette, they won't offer enough to a team to get them to let them move up to take him. So they'll spend those draft picks from Rounds 5 through 7 to take guys that'll be PS Players at best like last year. Although I hope Vrabel doesn't allow that to happen.

 

[bakes781]

And like last year when they wanted to trade back into the 1st Round to get Xavier Leggette, they won't offer enough to a team to get them to let them move up to take him. So they'll spend those draft picks from Rounds 5 through 7 to take guys that'll be PS Players at best like last year. Although I hope Vrabel doesn't allow that to happen.

He seems focused on the trenches and TEs. But it's BS season. If Golden interviews well he's on my radar. I know for sure who's off it completely and that's Tet.

 

[JohnJH]

He seems focused on the trenches and TEs. But it's BS season. If Golden interviews well he's on my radar. I know for sure who's off it completely and that's Tet.

I admit I'm intrigued by Golden. He's the same weight as Justin Jefferson, but only an inch shorter and he's much faster I believe.

 

[Rdforty2]

I admit I'm intrigued by Golden. He's the same weight as Justin Jefferson, but only an inch shorter and he's much faster I believe.

Jefferson was 6'1 1/4 202 at the combine. Golden 5'11 191. 2+ inches and 11lbs.

Golden definitely faster but there really aren't any other comparisons to Jefferson.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Ok let's talk....

Matthew Golden who just ran a 4.29 officially.

He was not on anyone's radar until the CFP. That's when he climbed into the 1st round discussion.

After today a case could be made that we have a new name to consider at the top of the draft.

I was already high on Golden for his route running. He was described to me as a Deion Branch type who can quickly win separation with his route running. But the fact that he also packs 4.29 speed? Well sign me up, I'll take a faster Deion Branch any day!

As far as when to take him. I'm comfortable with him anywhere in the 10-20 range. We'd have to trade back but it shouldn't be hard to find takers for the #4 spot, just a matter of how much extra pick capital we can gain on a trade down.

 

[JohnJH]

Jefferson was 6'1 1/4 202 at the combine. Golden 5'11 191. 2+ inches and 11lbs.

Golden definitely faster but there really aren't any other comparisons to Jefferson.

When I made that post, his combine height had not yet come out. His scouting height was all that I had to go on. Also, when he was drafted, Justin Jefferson wasn't Justin Jefferson.

 

[Steve102]

So would you take him at 4?

I have read that between the ears is a thing with him. Not sure if that's talk to push him down in value or not. I watched a fair amount of Longhorn games this year, Bond was the guy until late, he was supposedly nicked up. Golden came on when Bond's production dropped. I think both will go R1 this year. If either were there at 38, I'd have a hard time not sending in the card for one of them.

 

[Rdforty2]

When I made that post, his combine height had not yet come out. His scouting height was all that I had to go on. Also, when he was drafted, Justin Jefferson wasn't Justin Jefferson.

No problem with that. I was just pointing out that the height, weight, speed really aren't the same.

And I agree Jefferson wasn't Jefferson coming out. But i do think he was a much better prospect than Golden coming out still.

It's going to be interesting how the WR class shakes out. Disappointed in McMillan for not working out. I dont think Golden is going in the top half of the 1st. He had a little hype before the draft but you can't draft a kid top half of round 1 because of his combine performance at 5'11 191. I still think TMac is the 1st WR off the board but I dont see top 8 as of now. If he comes to his senses and works out well at Pro Day maybe. But there may not be a WR at all in the top 12 picks or so.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I was already high on Golden for his route running. He was described to me as a Deion Branch type who can quickly win separation with his route running. But the fact that he also packs 4.29 speed? Well sign me up, I'll take a faster Deion Branch any day!

As far as when to take him. I'm comfortable with him anywhere in the 10-20 range. We'd have to trade back but it shouldn't be hard to find takers for the #4 spot, just a matter of how much extra pick capital we can gain on a trade down.

Vrabel is not going to take a WR with our 1st round pick.