Mac Not Happy With the Groceries

[RIpats88]

It's just crazy to me that there are people who truly believe this roster is destined for greatness with just another QB.

Name me 5 people.on this roster on offense you could see here in 3 years. Or want to build around..there are none. It's a roster devoid of talent.

But it protects Bill. So the Bill bobos can insulate him from criticism in how he built the roster. Even though it ignores that Bill himself is whom picked Mac and continues to start him..

And I honestly think Mac has been garbage. I just think the issues run deeper than one guy.

 

[Trolltolls]

Mac leads the entire NFL in turnovers.... he's #1.

Mac is the problem.

Everything else you wrote is just a lot of words.

Its not black and white. There are multiple problems. We get a decent QB like Goff in here you think we are winning late in the post season? That would be ultimate delusion.

 

[amfootball]

Mac leads the entire NFL in turnovers.... he's #1.

Mac is the problem.

Everything else you wrote is just a lot of words.

Bill said that yesterday when he was asked what the main problem was. He didn't hesitate. Turnovers. Andrews said the same thing.

 

[amfootball]

Its not black and white. There are multiple problems. We get a decent QB like Goff in here you think we are winning late in the post season? That would be ultimate delusion.

This isn't about winning in the postseason. This is about a complete dumpster fire. The arrow is pointing at 6:00 o'clock right now with no hope of it turning up ...

 

[Trolltolls]

This isn't about winning in the postseason. This is about a complete dumpster fire. The arrow is pointing at 6:00 o'clock right now with no hope of it turning up ...

Thats what I mean. The complete team is a dumpster fire right now. People don't want to believe the hard truth.

 

[lancerman]

Mac leads the entire NFL in turnovers.... he's #1.

Mac is the problem.

Everything else you wrote is just a lot of words.

The special team is the worst in DVOA in the NFL.

The offensive line is 31 or 32 in pure rankings and the worst in pass protection in the NFL.

The running game is worse than the passing game.

The receivers are consistently ranked at the bottom of the league in getting separation.

Sorry that's objective measurements of what's happening... not just words. The team was poorly constructed, you were too much of a fanboy to believe it, now the only way you can save now is to act like there's one big bad guy that if we replaced him would fix everything.

Sorry, it's pretty validating to see what I said all offseason when we talked come to fruition and the game results and actual statistics back this up. Nobody objective thinks this is purely a QB problem.

 

[RIpats88]

This isn't about winning in the postseason. This is about a complete dumpster fire. The arrow is pointing at 6:00 o'clock right now with no hope of it turning up ...

Yes and the dumpster fire is the whole roster from top to bottom. Not just Mac Jones. It's everyone

That's all this argument is. No one truly believes Mac has been good. Hes been horrible.

It's just there are those claiming the roster is really good. And replacing Mac Jones = good team.

 

[denverpatsfan]

I sincerely hope this is total BS. Mac can't throw his teammates under the bus like that. Not good.

 

[Wozzy]

Its not black and white. There are multiple problems. We get a decent QB like Goff in here you think we are winning late in the post season? That would be ultimate delusion.

Goff is barely decent, but sure, give me Goff or Carr with a healthy shoulder and this offense would improve immensely.

Just stop turning the ball over…

 

[Wozzy]

Bill said that yesterday when he was asked what the main problem was. He didn't hesitate. Turnovers. Andrews said the same thing.

It’s this ^ 100%

 

[lancerman]

It’s this ^ 100%

Okay since you want to listen to Bill's take, what did he say when asked about Mac?

Spoiler: he said exactly what I've been saying

 

[Wozzy]

The special team is the worst in DVOA in the NFL.

The offensive line is 31 or 32 in pure rankings and the worst in pass protection in the NFL.

The running game is worse than the passing game.

The receivers are consistently ranked at the bottom of the league in getting separation.

Sorry that's objective measurements of what's happening... not just words. The team was poorly constructed, you were too much of a fanboy to believe it, now the only way you can save now is to act like there's one big bad guy that if we replaced him would fix everything.

Sorry, it's pretty validating to see what I said all offseason when we talked come to fruition and the game results and actual statistics back this up. Nobody objective thinks this is purely a QB problem.

Analytics is dumb. Moreover a 4 game sample size is no sample at all. The first two games the line had rookies and jags playing, the last two had mostly starters… and you’re telling us there was no difference?

Mac got sacked 6 times in the first two games… once in the next two. Analytics that lump this all together to say “ bad” is idiotic.

Mac has sucked… it’s that simple.

 

[Wozzy]

Okay since you want to listen to Bill's take, what did he say when asked about Mac?

Spoiler: he said exactly what I've been saying

He has to consider Mac’s state of mind and his locker room. BB will be praising Mac the same time he is benching him.

He needs to bench Mac, he’s playing horribly.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

I'm sure this will go well in the locker room.

Excuses and whining are not good leader traits

 

[lancerman]

Analytics is dumb. Moreover a 4 game sample size is no sample at all. The first two games the line had rookies and jags playing, the last two had mostly starters… and you’re telling us there was no difference?

Mac got sacked 6 times in the first two games… once in the next two. Analytics that lump this all together to say “ bad” is idiotic.

Mac has sucked… it’s that simple.

Analytics is literally taking data on what is happening. It's literally intelligence, not dumb lol. A 4 game sample size used to be 25% of the season. That's not small.

 

[lancerman]

He has to consider Mac’s state of mind and his locker room. BB will be praising Mac the same time he is benching him.

He needs to bench Mac, he’s playing horribly.

Ohhh okay, so he's telling the truth when he says what you want to hear but is playing mindgames when it's not. Glad you can read his mind for us

 

[Wozzy]

Ohhh okay, so he's telling the truth when he says what you want to hear but is playing mindgames when it's not. Glad you can read his mind for us

BB has benched Mac twice in the last two games.

Even BB will have to admit he’s a problem sooner than later.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

It’s this ^ 100%

Issue is Andrews might still be from an era that respects Bill and experienced the dynasty on some level. I am more curious what the newer players say and think.

 

[upstater1]

Brown isn't playing good, so you saying he has been part of good lines in the past doesn't count for anything. You can objectively watch him get beat immediately on plays that have nothing to do with the QB. The line is bad.

He got beat yesterday badly on one play. He's been playing really well otherwise. Everyone gets beat badly. We're taking 9 step drops out there because our guy can't stay in the pocket without cowering. So Brown cheats to the outside and then wiffs on an inside move. If you don't see that Brown is having a good year, I can't help you.

 

[lancerman]

BB has benched Mac twice in the last two games.

Even BB will have to admit he’s a problem sooner than later.

He's benched Brady lol