Logan Mankins: "I'm Back and Ready To Go"

[PatsWickedPissah]

I know he's just like that other guy who pulled this crap on the Patriots, John Hannah.

So now its revealed.
Mankins strategized that if he did this then like Hannah, he too would be inducted into the HOF. Clever move, Logan!

 

[Haley]

Mankins said. “I'm not looking at it as if I'm early. I'm eight weeks late.”

You're damn right you are! You better play your freaking heart out or else i'm gonna... I'm gonna... I'M GONNA .... oh ummm, he's a lot bigger than me. Well I still could post some really mean stuff and hurt your feelings (if you read it)!!!

 

[Kontradiction]

$7 million per year better?

Mankins is a top five guard who is still in his prime. I put this up before, but I'll do it again. 3 out of the 5 starters on the O-Line right now are on the wrong side of 30. One is an aging LT who, while still dependable, probably won't get another contract offer from the team after the season. One is a center who has been getting bullied far too often this year by bigger DT's (like the ones we see twice a year). And one is a RG who has been oft-injured and contemplated retirement after last season. With Mankins having stayed absolutely healthy through his time here, and being in the prime of his career on top of being a top five guard in the league, it makes sense to get him in here longterm and move Vollmer over to LT where they will usher in the new look Patriots offensive line. ON TOP of all of that, we just made a $100M investment behind all of these guys whose kryptonite is pressure up the middle.

So yes, in short, it makes a TON of sense to give him $7M per year while they still can. I would do it in a heartbeat... especially considering all of the money they just freed up by getting rid of Moss and all of the money they will free up when said contracts expire after the season.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Mankins is a top five guard who is still in his prime. I put this up before, but I'll do it again. 3 out of the 5 starters on the O-Line right now are on the wrong side of 30. One is an aging LT who, while still dependable, probably won't get another contract offer from the team after the season. One is a center who has been getting bullied far too often this year by bigger DT's (like the ones we see twice a year). And one is a RG who has been oft-injured and contemplated retirement after last season. With Mankins having stayed absolutely healthy through his time here, and being in the prime of his career on top of being a top five guard in the league, it makes sense to get him in here longterm and move Vollmer over to LT where they will usher in the new look Patriots offensive line. ON TOP of all of that, we just made a $100M investment behind all of these guys whose kryptonite is pressure up the middle.

So yes, in short, it makes a TON of sense to give him $7M per year while they still can. I would do it in a heartbeat... especially considering all of the money they just freed up by getting rid of Moss and all of the money they will free up when said contracts expire after the season.

As a thrifty Scott even with other people's money, for the reasons you cite above I'm willing now than before to pay Mankins. Kraft may also be willing and just giving things time to settle, Logan to return to play etc.

There is a contract deadline isn't there?

 

[Deus Irae]

$7 million per year better?

Either Kraft is a liar, or the Patriots offered Mankins a contract in the Mangold neighborhood (7 years, $55 million). So, if Kraft is not lying, the answer to your question, at least from the Patriots' perspective, would appear to be yes.

 

[TruthSeeker]

I know he's just like that other guy who pulled this crap on the Patriots, John Hannah.

Different times. Hannah couldn't leave after pulling that stunt, Mankins can, and will.

 

[RayClay]

I know he's just like that other guy who pulled this crap on the Patriots, John Hannah.

Yeah, I bought some stocks, I guess that makes me just like Warren Buffet.

 

[RayClay]

For the record, Hannah holding out was all you could do in those days, and he was well worth it.

What was out of bounds was his negotiating with Leon Gray as a team, meaning a team that valued him would need to pour a huge amount of their total payroll on just the left side of the line.

 

[TheComeback]

First of all, thanks and respect to your father for his service. My dad was in WWII and I come from a family whose military service dates back to Gettysburg and Fredericksburg.

I disagree, although respectfully, with your view on using military analogies in everyday speech.

I think that using analogies from one field of endeavor to communicate something about another field is appropriate and that one can do so without diminishing the more noble field or blurring the very real lines that exist.

For example, business people often use football analogies to describe what they are doing ("OK, everybody, it's important that we move the ball down the field with this client today.") No one is suggesting that sitting at a meeting in a comfortable chair in a heated conference room is anything at all like getting sacked into the mud by a 350 pound lineman on a cold, rainy December evening, but the analogy just helps people talk and communicate about what they are doing.

So, too, with military analogies. I think we can use them without suggesting that playing football is really anything like facing live fire.

Thanks for listening to my opinion.

I see what you're saying, and maybe I'm being too sensitive. But sometimes it seems to me that these guys really believe the crap they say. Most of them have been very sheltered since leaving high school, and they get a lot more glory than the kids who signed up for the military, even though they contribute far less to society IMO.

So they buy into this notion that they're part of the "warrior class" even though they've never risked their life for anyone else. And they do it because other people have been heaping praise on them for their toughness ever since they were a little kid. It's great that they work hard and play a fun, violent sport, but I wish people had a bit more perspective here. Unfortunately, they just buy into whatever the entertainment industry is promoting.

The guys in the NFL who have actually served (like Ahmard Hall) seem to be more grounded.

 

[jmt57]

It Is What It Is | Bill Belichick on Logan Mankins: Still ‘a ways to go’

“[Mankins] looks alight,” Belichick said. “I think he has a ways to go, as you would expect, but he looks like he’s in pretty good condition. Logan is a smart guy and he works hard so that’s never really an issue. He just has to get better at things he hasn’t done in a while.”

Putting on my Belichick decoder (always a dangerous, and often incorrect proposition) I'd say that sounds like Mankins playing against Pittsburgh is maybe 50-50, if that.

“Let’s take it day-to-day here,” Belichick said. “We had a good day [Thursday] in terms of contact, padded and all that, and [we’ll] see how things are today and take a look at it tomorrow. A lot of times it is the day after or two days after with players who are coming back, whether it’s with injuries or, in this case, he wasn’t here or whatever it happens to be, where the more days or the more time you have, I think the better you feel about the situation – one way or the other, whichever way it goes.

“To bring him onto the roster, we’d have to make a move, so that’s a decision. So I think you take that as long as you can until you make the decision or until you know what the decision is and then make it. But I think you want to make the right one. You don’t want to make a mistake on that, so we’ll see how it goes here.”

Certainly does not sound like Mankins is going to play against Cleveland - though anybody, including myself that has ever tried to interpret what BB is saying, will often be incorrect.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Bet Online

(Don't feed the spambots)

Yeah, it's still a confusing situation.

 

[ausbacker]

Re: Bet Online

Yeah, it's still a confusing situation.

I wonder what the over/under is for Mankins staying .

 

[PATSNUTme]

I guess Mankins is using the Pats so he can become an UFA. That's the ONLY reason he came back now. Let's use him like he used the Pats, make him work his ass off to help the team, and Connolly replaces his ass next year. Let Mankins blow his knee out on the last play of the year, when Brady takes a knee the last minute of a SB victory. F*ck Mankins. And I don't care who gets mad at that comment, I hate Mankins.

I'm not mad at your comment. I think it's one of the all time dumbest comments made on this board. Certainly in the top 5.