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Leon Washington Cut per SMY Boston Globe

I wonder how Bill feels about cutting Tate in retrospect, given our troubles at KR.

It still wasn't worse than trading ellis hobbs. Despite the hate he received he could actually play as long as it wasn't against the monster wrs out there. That year we lost our best kick returner maybe of all time and was left with deltha oneal and scrub rookie cb all because we wanted the useless rich orhnberger.
 
Really would hate to see Dmac return kicks again. He might be our 3rd most valuable player after Brady and big vince. Hopefully Boyce handles kickoffs. On a slightly unrelated note, anyone else remember this in Slater's first game of his career? "and the chiefs kick off to Slater, Slater the rookie out of UCLA, Belichick loves this kid" *Slater muffs kickoff* "Well did love this kid..." haha no hate on Slater just thought that moment was kinda funny. Shame dude can't hang on to the ball because he has great speed.

Agree and disagree . I agree about DMac not playing on any of the K or P teams. He's too valuable to the secondary. However, he is arguably not the second or third or fourth most important players on the team. As much as Vince is key to the Patriots, he isn't #2 either. TB is so important to the success of the team that by default the #2 is the LT and #3 is the RT. While this may be too narrow and too technical a view, IMHO the guy(s) critically important to keeping our #1 healthy is more important than our top D Lineman or leader of the secondary.
 
It still wasn't worse than trading ellis hobbs. Despite the hate he received he could actually play as long as it wasn't against the monster wrs out there. That year we lost our best kick returner maybe of all time and was left with deltha oneal and scrub rookie cb all because we wanted the useless rich orhnberger.
Even Leon Washington fell victim to the curse of Ellis Hobbs.
 
It still wasn't worse than trading ellis hobbs. Despite the hate he received he could actually play as long as it wasn't against the monster wrs out there. That year we lost our best kick returner maybe of all time and was left with deltha oneal and scrub rookie cb all because we wanted the useless rich orhnberger.
I don't know which is worse, the inaccurate timeline or the revisionist history.

2008: Hobbs starts 16 games, O'Neal starts 10 and plays in 16.
2009 offseason: O'Neal's contract expires, Pats sign Leigh Bodden and Shawn Springs, draft Darius Butler, and trade Hobbs
2009: Bodden starts 16 games, Springs 8, Wilhite 8, and Butler 5; Hobbs plays in 8 games with 0 starts, 0 PD or INT, 11 tackles, and returns 20 kicks which tie his career low in KR average
2010 offseason: Hobbs is a free agent, re-signs with the Eagles
2010: Hobbs averages a new career low (by two and a half yards) on his kick returns and starts 7 games at CB before suffering a career ending neck injury.

It's also worth noting that Hobbs was in the final year of his contract and that trading him saved about $2M against the cap. So essentially, they traded one year of Hobbs (in which he played 8 games, returned 20 kicks far below 2006-2008 Hobbs standards, and had 11 tackles) for Ohrnberger and $2M in cap room.

In 2009, The Pats averaged 22.7 yards per kick return and Hobbs averaged 24.1 over his 20 returns, making the net difference by trading Hobbs very roughly 28 yards over 8 games. So yeah, I'm going to say that Hobbs would not have been anywhere near the answer, and that they didn't really lose anything by trading him.
 
I wonder how Bill feels about cutting Tate in retrospect, given our troubles at KR.

Considering Tate is a worse PR than Edelman, a non-factor at WR and has a KR avg that is virtually identical to McCourty's, I'd say Bill feels fine about that decision.

As for Leon, I suspect we haven't seen the last of him in 2013.
 
What a bummer, I was looking forward to an improved KR game. Field position uber alles.

For pure Bennie Hill comedic value nothing beats Slater fielding the kickoff, racing straight up the middle executing his own version of the butt tackle.
 
For pure Bennie Hill comedic value nothing beats Slater fielding the kickoff, racing straight up the middle executing his own version of the butt tackle.

We fixed that with McCourty, who would always slow down as soon as he ran up to the first tackler. Now let's see if Boyce can run to daylight.
 
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