Kraft wants to bring the Super Bowl to New England

[MoLewisrocks]

Furthermore, you're contradicting your own logic. You're trying to say there is no big impact to a Super Bowl, but you're also saying tht Dallas was "devastated" by the bad weather. Well which is it? If there no great economic boom to a Super Bowl, why would bad weather be so "devastating"?

Reading some of your stuff you're either incredibly naive or totally self absorbed or still in college... Restaurants, retail outlets, bars, clubs, hotels, municipalities went ahead and ordered exponentially more food, clothing, booze, entertainment, help, renovations and facelifts in anticipation of a massive influx of fans looking to spend like drunken fools for the better part of a week. Nobody reimburses them or the tax payers when mother nature throws a monkey wrench in the plans.

I saw a report where one restaurant owner expected to make $85K this week, and now he will be lucky to make $8500, which is probably less than what he makes on a normal week in Dallas in February. Everything businesses and even governments do in anticipation of hosting a boom event still has to be paid for in the event of a bust.

Somewhere between your simplistic vision of what football should be for fans and Bob Kraft's expansive vision of what it should accomplish for participants and investors lies the truth...

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Look guys; we are all football geeks here and into the little nuisances of the game but the vast majority of fans want to have a good time when they lay out all that dough. The game itself is almost less important than the pomp associated with it. If I laid out all that money I would want to play some golf and lay out in the sun and wear a Hawaiian shirt and cruise around in a convertible.

Think about a game right now in the freezing rain. Is that fun? Not unless you are a serious X's and O's geek. We are but most fans are not.

The Super Bowl has a long tradition of fun and sun. New England or New Jersey is grim and gray right now; it doesn't work for me.

 

[Wolfpack]

Reading some of your stuff you're either incredibly naive or totally self absorbed or still in college... Restaurants, retail outlets, bars, clubs, hotels, municipalities went ahead and ordered exponentially more food, clothing, booze, entertainment, help, renovations and facelifts in anticipation of a massive influx of fans looking to spend like drunken fools for the better part of a week. Nobody reimburses them or the tax payers when mother nature throws a monkey wrench in the plans.

I saw a report where one restaurant owner expected to make $85K this week, and now he will be lucky to make $8500, which is probably less than what he makes on a normal week in Dallas in February. Everything businesses and even governments do in anticipation of hosting a boom event still has to be paid for in the event of a bust.

Somewhere between your simplistic vision of what football should be for fans and Bob Kraft's expansive vision of what it should accomplish for participants and investors lies the truth...

I don't think you understand the point I am making. I agree that restaurants, bars, hotels, etc, make big plans (which costs big money) in anticipation of a big event. Your statement that one guy expected to make $85k supports the point I am making.

I was responding to the fact that Ron Sellers was making 2 points which contradict each other. On the one hand he was saying that the economic impact of a Super Bowl is very small. Then on the other hand, he was saying that Dallas businesses were "devastated" by this year's bad weather. Well if the economic impact is so small, then why would they be "devastated" by bad weather?

The answer is that some Dallas businesses are devasted because the economic impact of a Super Bowl is pretty darn big. And yeah, the weather messed it up. But so long as the Super Bowl is being held in February, bad weather (or other catastrophes) can happen pretty much anywhere in the country. I don't think you can be endlessly paranoid about the worst case scenario because every city can have a disaster. San Diego had huge flooding last month. Miami could have a hurricane in September damage the stadium. Ice in Dallas. Snow in Indianapolis. Etc, etc.

 

[patsfan-1982]

i know Kraft would love to bring the SB to new england he would make a lot of money but i cant ever see the SB being played out doors in cold weather

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

i know Kraft would love to bring the SB to new england he would make a lot of money but i cant ever see the SB being played out doors in cold weather

So...you're gonna put your hands over your eyes when the SB is played in NY?

WTF?

and no, it's not Winning The Future

 

[PatsFan24]

It would upset the media people who cover the game, they would spend two weeks crying about the cold weather. They should play the Super Bowl in Las Vegas some year.

 

[patsfan-1982]

So...you're gonna put your hands over your eyes when the SB is played in NY?

WTF?

and no, it's not Winning The Future

just looked it up i did not know the 2014 SB will be played in NJ i guess if NJ can get a SB why not boston

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

There is .023% chance of a SB coming here

 

[Tunescribe]

I can't even imagine trying to get to a Super Bowl in Foxboro via Route 1 in mid-July; forget early February. Kraft would be crazy to spend as much as a penny on proposing such an outrageous pipe dream.

 

[part-timer]

Do not underestimate Kraft's ability to get what he wants haveing become one of the most powerfull men in the NFL.
Robert Kraft - Official New England Patriots Biography

 

[chicowalker]

Look guys; we are all football geeks here and into the little nuisances of the game but the vast majority of fans want to have a good time when they lay out all that dough. The game itself is almost less important than the pomp associated with it. If I laid out all that money I would want to play some golf and lay out in the sun and wear a Hawaiian shirt and cruise around in a convertible.

Think about a game right now in the freezing rain. Is that fun? Not unless you are a serious X's and O's geek. We are but most fans are not.

The Super Bowl has a long tradition of fun and sun. New England or New Jersey is grim and gray right now; it doesn't work for me.

I think the people who are spending moneye tend to be real fans, often thee hoping to see their team win.

I think most people aren't spending a ton of dough, because they're not going as fans. They want all the rest.

Don't get me wrong -- it's nice having other stuff around. However, if great weather and things to do are the criteria, Bill Simmons had it right: Miami, New Orleans, San Diego (and Vegas, but the NFL wouldn't permit it).

Right now, it's a weird mix of supposed warm weather cities that can't actually handle the event the game has become and other cities that get it for a variety of reasons.

Houston? Not much going on. JAX? Complete mess. Detroit? (No comment necessary) Indy? Not warm outside, little to do there. NYC? Plenty to do, but not a warm-weather location. Dallas? Beautiful weather this week...

 

[DarrylStingley]

Let's just concentrate on getting the Freaking Patriots back to the Freaking Super Bowl. I'm sick of seeing teams not as good as the Pats in or winning the big game.

2005 - make a zillion unforced errors and let an inferior Broncos team beat them

2006 - they blow a huge lead and hand f'ing Peyton Manning his first title

2007 - Totally don't show up against the Giants

2008 - Pass

2009 - Look comatose against Ravens

2010 - get outplayed and out coached by the clowns from NY

Bobby Kraft, I love you, but let's clean up this crap and then worry about who hosts the game.

 

[Patjew]

I don't even like going outside in NE in February, and I'm from there. No thanks. I'd rather go to the Pats home games and then fly somewhere warm to see them in the SB.

 

[Joker]

Yup...Miami,N.O., Arizona,LA..rotate cities..oh wait...it USED to be that way

how about this...FIRE this incompetent,blind rhino in a china shop Jerkdell

rescind EVERY rule change and decision this moron has ever made

convene a league wide meeting to discuss and then implement proper rule changes as they pertain to player safety

Keep the 16 game "if it ain't broke don't fix it" season

vote to use independent arbitrators to make punitive decisions and take this power away from agenda driven power morons like Notdell.

 

[Patjew]

That's so funny Joker... I realized I hadn't noticed a post from you for a while so I did a search for you to see if you're still amongst the living. Bingo-bango, there you are.

I took some time off after the last game, too, as I think many did. Hopefully everyone survived and is ready for an awesome 2011.

 

[upstater1]

Sorry Upstater1 for making fun of your religious faith

Huh? What does Free Love have to do with this?

 

[Joker]

yeah...I was offline from January 9th until the end of the month because of storm damage and slow response time by Cox...that being said, I needed a break...I went to that game, like last year against the Ravens...sat up close and got a real dose of disappointment again.

I'll say this...unless I see a dramatic shift in priorities, I won't pay for and sit through another playoff game(God willing if we get there again).If there is anyone reading this that has media credentials or access,let me make it clear...of course we want to win, but we DO NOT want some bigmouth fat slob jagoff running his freaking mouth 24/7 and us have to sit there and take it. That little puke Sancrap should have been hit and HIT HARD right from the start of that game...we never laid a glove on the jumpy little pederast. Smash him hard and that team wilts like daisies after a date with the corpulent Toey McSnifferguts.

 

[Patjew]

Joker, I love you because your posts always entertain and confuse the hell out of me.

 

[Joker]

I have to use somewhat arcane metaphors, PJ ,because if I posted what I really want, I'd probably,no, make that definitely, get arrested.

 

[Patjew]

I understood that!