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Here are Edelman's plays, according to NFL.com, including ones wiped out by penalties.


  • First Quarter
    [*] 1-10-NYJ 17 (8:36) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 11-J.Edelman to NYJ 7 for 10 yards (36-J.Leonhard). PENALTY on NE-61-S.Neal, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at NYJ 17 - No Play.
  • 1-20-NYJ 27 (8:07) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short middle to 11-J.Edelman.
  • 2-30-NYJ 37 (7:39) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 11-J.Edelman to NYJ 27 for 10 yards (57-B.Scott).
  • 1-10-NE 18 (5:16) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 11-J.Edelman to NE 20 for 2 yards (99-B.Thomas, 27-D.Strickland).

    Second Quarter
  • 1-10-NE 40 (15:00) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short left to 11-J.Edelman. PENALTY on NYJ-57-B.Scott, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at NE 40.
  • 2-15-NYJ 41 (13:42) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 11-J.Edelman to NYJ 12 for 29 yards (36-J.Leonhard).
  • 3-5-NYJ 7 (11:39) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short left to 11-J.Edelman.
  • 1-10-NE 49 (2:00) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 11-J.Edelman pushed ob at NYJ 32 for 19 yards (25-K.Rhodes).
  • 2-3-NYJ 11 33) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short left to 11-J.Edelman (21-D.Lowery).

    Third Quarter
  • 3-J.Feely kicks 67 yards from NYJ 30 to NE 3. 11-J.Edelman to NE 25 for 22 yards (94-M.Murrell, 15-W.Wright).
  • 2-6-NE 29 (13:16) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 11-J.Edelman to NE 25 for -4 yards (27-D.Strickland).
  • 1-10-NYJ 36 (5:10) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short right to 11-J.Edelman.

    Fourth Quarter
  • 3-J.Feely kicks 72 yards from NYJ 30 to NE -2. 11-J.Edelman to NE 15 for 17 yards (15-W.Wright, 55-J.Westerman).
  • 2-10-NE 29 (8:33) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 11-J.Edelman to NE 38 for 9 yards (25-K.Rhodes, 30-D.Coleman) [52-D.Harris]. NYJ-77-K.Jenkins was injured during the play.
  • 1-10-NE 20 (5:01) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short middle to 11-J.Edelman.
  • 2-10-NE 20 (4:57) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short left to 11-J.Edelman.
  • 3-10-NE 20 (4:50) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 11-J.Edelman to NE 35 for 15 yards (30-D.Coleman). Penalty on NYJ-33-E.Smith, Illegal Contact, declined.
  • 4-12-NYJ 40 (2:00) 9-S.Weatherford punts 42 yards to NE 18, Center-85-J.Dearth. 11-J.Edelman to NE 20 for 2 yards (15-W.Wright, 96-J.Trusnik). PENALTY on NE-42-B.Green-Ellis, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards, enforced at NE 20.
  • 1-10-NE 10 (1:48) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 11-J.Edelman to NE 28 for 18 yards (30-D.Coleman).
  • 2-10-NE 28 (1:18) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short right to 11-J.Edelman.

He's not Wes Welker yet. But NFL.com has Brady throwing to him 15(!) times—17 times, counting penalties (one of which was a completion for 10, one an incomplete)—which says to me that Edelman's at least made significant strides.
 
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Re: Julian Edelman...not Wes Welker yet, but a strong debut

yup, we have two very good slot wr's......now we need to find another one to complement moss on the other side....
 
Re: Julian Edelman...not Wes Welker yet, but a strong debut

yup, we have two very good slot wr's......now we need to find another one to complement moss on the other side....

Brandon Tate, maybe?
 
Decent game, but he needs to learn how to line up properly... Moss had to save him repeatedly, telling him to get on/off the line. He's definitely a project, though, and he does have a high ceiling...
 
Decent game, but he needs to learn how to line up properly... Moss had to save him repeatedly, telling him to get on/off the line. He's definitely a project, though, and he does have a high ceiling...

haha, i saw that too. edelman's fun to watch tho, good cuts, but sometimes the jitters showed
 
Is it time to activate Nunn from the practice squad? Edelman did great and i think Nunn would be great on the otherside of moss when welker is out!
 
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The drop close to the goalline in the second quarter when he turned upfield too quickly was a killer... looked like a TD. Other than that, for my first time actually watching him play, I think he will have a major impact on this team - even when Welker is in the lineup.
 
Is it time to activate Nunn from the practice squad? Edelman did great and i think Nunn would be great on the otherside of moss when welker is out!

Forgot about Nunn. At the rate Galloway's going, that's not an impossibility. . . . even if Tate can be activated later this year.
 
Forgot about Nunn. At the rate Galloway's going, that's not an impossibility. . . . even if Tate can be activated later this year.

BTW, apparently this pass:

2-15-NYJ 41 (13:42) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 11-J.Edelman to NYJ 12 for 29 yards (36-J.Leonhard).

put Brady into second place in pass yardage among all Pats QBs.
 
B+

I'm not ready to put him in Canton yet. But for a 7th rounder who was playing QB last year I'm very, very happy.
 
id rather have nunn

edelman was ok but hes no welker, not even close

nunn is a better instinctive receiver and probably has the best hands ive seen
 
id rather have nunn

edelman was ok but hes no welker, not even close

nunn is a better instinctive receiver and probably has the best hands ive seen

For a guy who was a QB last year, it's still darn good.

I suspect Nunn will get his chance, but it won't be at Edelman's expense.
 
For being a rookie QB turned WR? A-/B+

Overall? B/B-
 
id rather have nunn

edelman was ok but hes no welker, not even close

you guys glorify Welker way too much.

put a #83 on Edelman's chest, and you wouldn't know the difference. ya, he dropped a few, but so did Welker on MNF.
 
you guys glorify Welker way too much.

put a #83 on Edelman's chest, and you wouldn't know the difference. ya, he dropped a few, but so did Welker on MNF.

Welker: 12 of 16 (and, in general, WW catches >70% of the throws on which he's the target)
Edelman: 8 of 16 (as SMY points out the Scott penalty was after the fact, so it still counts as a throw)

Welker is also an outstanding blocker in the run/YAC game.
 
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His ability to make plays in a small area is key. If he can work the slot and incorporate a wrinkle or 2 being a ex QB he will provide a much needed backup to Welker. Welker takes alot of big hits and he is a small guy, that wont last long. But if he can come back and can take some snaps in Galloway's role that could cause fits for the D. Seeing Kelly Washington get about 60 yards and a TD today makes me wonder if Aiken shouldnt get some time there as well.
 
His ability to make plays in a small area is key. If he can work the slot and incorporate a wrinkle or 2 being a ex QB he will provide a much needed backup to Welker. Welker takes alot of big hits and he is a small guy, that wont last long. But if he can come back and can take some snaps in Galloway's role that could cause fits for the D. Seeing Kelly Washington get about 60 yards and a TD today makes me wonder if Aiken shouldnt get some time there as well.

But that's the thing: if you go back and look, WW doesn't take nearly as many big hits as it looks like he does. Not none, but certainly not on every play.
 
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