Joe Milton at WR?

[Keep Up With The Joneses]

That’s the whole point: he’s said he’d rather COMPETE & hold a clipboard if he has to then change positions. But a laundry list of posters here seem to think they know what is best for him. He has faith in himself; so let him try. Stop trying to re-live Edelman.


Thanks. Couple surprises in there.

How is re-living Edelman any different than trying to re-live Brady?

No one is saying they know what's best for Milton. Only he knows that. The people who disagree with you aren't saying the guy has zero shot of being a QB. We are merely saying that any fringe player has a better shot at sticking if he is willing to open his mind up to different ways to stay on the roster.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

I became a Patriots Fan when Plunkett was drafted. It's my first recollection of the team. And there are other QB's who were true Franchise QB's who were ruined (David Carr, Andrew Luck), even Matthew Stafford was almost done in by the Lions until he was traded. Maye is more than young enough in age and demonstrated talent to be a Franchise QB. There's no need to rush him.

Add Grogan to that list
I use to sit there cringing “yelling throw the ball, throw the ball”

 

[Real fan 02]

I’m pulling for Milton.

He is too intriguing to make it to the Pats’ practice squad.

I'd absolutely love us to develop him, and retain him on the roster somewhere.

 

[Zuma]

Stop it! Tee Higgins is still out there and has till July to decide. Let's keep talking to him. You talk about Patriots being relevant this year....That would make me pumped for this draft class to add him. Let's GO!

He’s going to be only 25 yrs old this year.

 

[Wozzy]

What are you talking about? Not good in Canada? In 2022, he ended the season leading the league in passer efficiency, completion percentage and yards per game. His mark of 78.7% set a new CFL record for the highest completion percentage in a single season in league history. He went to Jacksonville and was outstanding in preseason. Rourke completed 23 of 35 passes (65.7 percent) for 348 yards during the preseason.



Mayo said "At the end of the day, our philosophy is, the best players will play".

Let's see what Rourke can do and if Rourke plays well, let's see what Mayo does.

Mac Jones is still the NCAA all time leader in completion percentage... saying Rourke was okay for a season in Canada is like saying he's the best looking girl in a small Kansas town.

He was a 61% passer at Ohio... and I mean Miami of Ohio... not Ohio State. He also threw almost one interception for every TD he threw in Canada. He wasn't that good.

 

[Bruins_Fanatic]

Mac Jones is still the NCAA all time leader in completion percentage... saying Rourke was okay for a season in Canada is like saying he's the best looking girl in a small Kansas town.

He was a 61% passer at Ohio... and I mean Miami of Ohio... not Ohio State. He also threw almost one interception for every TD he threw in Canada. He wasn't that good.

Get your facts straight. Rourke was a QB at the University of Ohio as a Bobcat. Not Miami of Ohio.

Also - he played one full season as a starter in the CFL in 2022. 248-of-313 passes for 3,281 yards with 25 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. That is not one interception for each touchdown.

 

[Wozzy]

Get your facts straight. Rourke was a QB at the University of Ohio as a Bobcat. Not Miami of Ohio.

Also - he played one full season as a starter in the CFL in 2022. 248-of-313 passes for 3,281 yards with 25 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. That is not one interception for each touchdown.

Hahahaha... you mean who play in the MAC, one of the smallest D1 divisions in college football and where his stats were thoroughly average?

And ten interceptions on 313 attempts is not good in the modern age... especially not in Canada.

Maybe he can become a backup somewhere, but he's not better than Brissett and you're not keeping him over the two rookies. Zappe's college stats blow his out of the water... get a grip.

 

[Water Boy]

I wonder if part of the reason for drafting Milton was to send a psychological message to Maye that he needs to continually earn the job.

Milton is an opposing dude.

 

[captain stone]

In a draft with so few picks to waste, this was a wasted pick.

 

[Gumby]

How is re-living Edelman any different than trying to re-live Brady?

No one is saying they know what's best for Milton. Only he knows that. The people who disagree with you aren't saying the guy has zero shot of being a QB. We are merely saying that any fringe player has a better shot at sticking if he is willing to open his mind up to different ways to stay on the roster.

1..The title of this thread is NOT:
— „suggesting „
- - or „open mind“

2. I have made no claim he is Brady 2.0. I only used TB as example to point out the fallacy of saying he can’t be a QB because he’s a 6th rnd pick.
- - others, not necessarily you; have said he categorically NEEDS to be Edelman 2.0 or Taysom Hill 2.0 (or i assume cut from the roster).
- that is the point I disagree with. Let him be him.

 

[turkeyneck]

I wonder if part of the reason for drafting Milton was to send a psychological message to Maye that he needs to continually earn the job.

Milton is an opposing dude.

??imposing??

 

[The Gr8est]

In a draft with so few picks to waste, this was a wasted pick.

I disagree.

Joe Milton has the physical talent of a 1st round pick with great size and speed and a bazooka arm.

The upside is enormous.

At QB, and potentially as a wildcard for gadget plays.

Who would have been better?

 

[Keep Up With The Joneses]

1..The title of this thread is NOT:
— „suggesting „
- - or „open mind“

2. I have made no claim he is Brady 2.0. I only used TB as example to point out the fallacy of saying he can’t be a QB because he’s a 6th rnd pick.
- - others, not necessarily you; have said he categorically NEEDS to be Edelman 2.0 or Taysom Hill 2.0 (or i assume cut from the roster).
- that is the point I disagree with. Let him be him.

The title of the thread has a question mark at the end of it. That is the definition of a suggestion or a possibility, not a declaration.

You started engaging with me by stating (paraphrase) that Brady was the argument against the notion that a QB drafted late likely wouldn't amount to much. Your next post was about Brock Purdy.

You aren't doing anything different than anyone else. Both sides are citing rare and unlikely examples to support their argument.

I stand by my statement. Could he become an NFL QB? Possibly. But his draft position suggests most teams (really all) don't think that will be happening anytime soon. If he wants to stick he might need to consider all the ways as a very gifted athlete that he can do that.

Honestly I would love to be wrong on this. If he somehow becomes a starting QB in this league he'll be the steal of the draft. I just don't see a path for him to get there.

 

[PatsFan2]

I disagree.

Joe Milton has the physical talent of a 1st round pick with great size and speed and a bazooka arm.

The upside is enormous.

At QB, and potentially as a wildcard for gadget plays.

Who would have been better?

Thanks you like if Teams knew Purdy would be as good he wouldn't be Mr Irrelevant. The Scouting report say give Milton some time and hope he develops it's not far fetched but as of now we don't know. So the Nostradamus's on Patsfans.com needs to zip it regarding Milton. He was a good selection where we picked him.

 

[mgteich]

I disagree.

Joe Milton has the physical talent of a 1st round pick with great size and speed and a bazooka arm.

The upside is enormous.

At QB, and potentially as a wildcard for gadget plays.

Who would have been better?

He isn't going to be good for gadget plays unless he is the active #2 QB, which mean he needs to be able to play every and run the team if the #1 is injured. There are a lot of backup QB's in the league who can run a team if necessary.

Let us say that we are playing Game 10 and Maye is starting. Brissette would be the backup. Sure we'd have an emergency #3, but he doesn't get to play unless both QB's ae interested.

I do NOT think that we would have Milton active for a play or two and sit our #4 WR say we have Douglas, Polk, Baker and we are choosing between having Bourne or Osborne active. I don't think that Milton is a better option.

To put it another way, I'm all for extending Brissette in next year's off-season. if we can't find another better #2 that can step in at any time.
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Who was better. I don't know. I probably would have taken a shot at a RB, who might make the Practice Squad or even the 53. Or if Dial or Bell are really needed, then we might have double dipped at their positions. The 6th and 7th rounds are fine places for special teamers who have some potential at being OK as the last roster player at their position. Last year, we took a shot on Douglas and on Bolden (KR). They had potential value at positions where we needed a player.

Unless Milton is potential backup later this year and potentially next, I don't see his value. As I have said before, he might have value on the Practice Squad.

 

[The Gr8est]

He isn't going to be good for gadget plays unless he is the active #2 QB, which mean he needs to be able to play every and run the team if the #1 is injured. There are a lot of backup QB's in the league who can run a team if necessary.

Let us say that we are playing Game 10 and Maye is starting. Brissette would be the backup. Sure we'd have an emergency #3, but he doesn't get to play unless both QB's ae interested.

I do NOT think that we would have Milton active for a play or two and sit our #4 WR say we have Douglas, Polk, Baker and we are choosing between having Bourne or Osborne active. I don't think that Milton is a better option.

To put it another way, I'm all for extending Brissette in next year's off-season. if we can't find another better #2 that can step in at any time.
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Who was better. I don't know. I probably would have taken a shot at a RB, who might make the Practice Squad or even the 53. Or if Dial or Bell are really needed, then we might have double dipped at their positions. The 6th and 7th rounds are fine places for special teamers who have some potential at being OK as the last roster player at their position. Last year, we took a shot on Douglas and on Bolden (KR). They had potential value at positions where we needed a player.

Unless Milton is potential backup later this year and potentially next, I don't see his value. As I have said before, he might have value on the Practice Squad.

OK, you make some good points.

We know what we have with Brisset though, so once we can turn the team ever to Maye, not sure I want to spend the money to sign Brissett for another year.

We need to see how Milton does with his opportunities this year, and then see how things look.

As a backup QB, he is physically similar to Maye, and should be able to run the same offense.

 

[patfanken]

In a draft with so few picks to waste, this was a wasted pick.

Not if Milton turns out to be a better QB than most think and becomes a quality back up to Maye and can be a guy you can run plays for. Also if he can get a chance (and you got to think that a QB will miss a few games in a 17 game season (what was it? 23 QB missed games last season.) If he shows promise during preseason games and in season opportunities, he will be worth a LOT more than a 6th rounder to some QB hungry team. So if we keep 3 QB's, a QB room of Brissett, Maye and Milton will be fine with me

 

[moosekill]

Or we keep 4 like when Brady was the 4th.

 

[PatsFan2]

Right now, Jacoby Brissett is the best QB on this roster. Maye is an exciting prospect but he was literally just drafted. This is even more true for Milton.

We'll we be picking #2 or 3 again if that's the case let's get this clear Biscuit doesn't move the needle for me.

 

[Salsalife]

Wow. TB12 Junior?


Full disclosure. I was a Penix fan big time.