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onegameatatime said:
Namath was a way over-rated QB. He did win a big game, but mostly he was a media star. He is in the top 10 on proof that there is a huge NYC bias in the media.

FROM ESPN'S TOP 10 MOST OVERRATED LIST:

Namath declared the Jets would win Super Bowl III, but we declare him overrated.

1. Joe Namath
I'm a Joe Namath fan from way back, so it pains me to say this, but Namath was a great quarterback for only a few seasons. He's been properly credited for leading the Jets to a Super Bowl III win (and a few bonus points for being cool enough to know he didn't have to pass to beat the Colts). Namath was an icon, a product of his times, and he played the New York tune in perfect key, fur coat and all. But as a player ... there have been dozens of better QBs in modern times. Some surprisingly lousy career stats to consider: 173 TD passes, 220 INTs, completion percentage of 50.1.

I'm curious. Did you see Namath play?

The guy had two bad knees most of his career. But I really would like to know.
 
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onegameatatime said:
Namath was a way over-rated QB. He did win a big game, but mostly he was a media star. He is in the top 10 on proof that there is a huge NYC bias in the media.

FROM ESPN'S TOP 10 MOST OVERRATED LIST:

Namath declared the Jets would win Super Bowl III, but we declare him overrated.

1. Joe Namath
I'm a Joe Namath fan from way back, so it pains me to say this, but Namath was a great quarterback for only a few seasons. He's been properly credited for leading the Jets to a Super Bowl III win (and a few bonus points for being cool enough to know he didn't have to pass to beat the Colts). Namath was an icon, a product of his times, and he played the New York tune in perfect key, fur coat and all. But as a player ... there have been dozens of better QBs in modern times. Some surprisingly lousy career stats to consider: 173 TD passes, 220 INTs, completion percentage of 50.1.

Did you ever watch him play? My guess is no and you just Googled his name and called yourself an expert. Go look at John Stallworth's numbers. They're not that great but if he played today for the Colts, he would catch 100 balls a year. Just another case of someone getting their opinions on football from Google. Hey, how many sacks does Seymour get a year? Oh wait, when it's a Patriot stats are deceiving. He does other things to help his team win. Go Google Jack Youngblood and let us know what your search tells you to think about him.
 
Born_a_Patriot said:
Wishing luck to the Patriots against the Jets is like telling Dolly Parton she needs a boob job.

I know. It would be like barely beating the Bills at home on opening day. The Patriots looked so good, they should be a lock to win every game this year with Tom Brady getting planted into the ground on every other play. After that performance, we have reason to look beyond the Jets on the road. Great point.
 
RayClay said:
I'm curious. Did you see Namath play?

The guy had two bad knees most of his career. But I really would like to know.

No, it's called a search engine. The Internet allows anyone to be an expert as long as they know to cut and paste.
 
RayClay said:
I'm curious. Did you see Namath play?

The guy had two bad knees most of his career. But I really would like to know.
Did you know you responded to a post from 12/05?
 
This is the best Jet board.

http://forums.theganggreen.com/

It doesn't get nearly as many visits as PatsFans.com but considering the state of their team (a nice way to say they suck), I guess it's somewhat busy.
 
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I'm Ron Borges? said:
No, it's called a search engine. The Internet allows anyone to be an expert as long as they know to cut and paste.


Gee kinda like Borges' "reporting".....
 
Smizzy said:
Hey guys,Jets fan here from JetNation.com Just wanted to shoot over and extend the invite to the PatsFans.com to stop over this week to JetNation.com to talk about the game. Let's pray for a good healthy game with no more injuries...Good luck guys.

http://www.jetnation.com/forums/index.php

Hope to talk to you guys this week. You can post the same day you sign up,No wait. Im a Mod there...No worries...This is a personal invite.

This guy just creeps me out.......I mean, he is being WAY too nice! I just feel like if I go over to that site, I will be surrounded by a bunch of smiling, friendly Jets Fans who will try to trick me into drinking slime-green Kool-aid.

I'd feel more comfortable if he just acted like the idiots from Miami.
 
I'm Ron Borges? said:
Did you ever watch him play? My guess is no and you just Googled his name and called yourself an expert. Go look at John Stallworth's numbers. They're not that great but if he played today for the Colts, he would catch 100 balls a year. Just another case of someone getting their opinions on football from Google. Hey, how many sacks does Seymour get a year? Oh wait, when it's a Patriot stats are deceiving. He does other things to help his team win. Go Google Jack Youngblood and let us know what your search tells you to think about him.
Question: who was better Bob Griese or Joe Namath. You always hear that Namath was overated, but never Hall of Famer Griese.
 
PromisedLand said:
Why so negative, Alk? Did they ban you there?
Nope, just busting chops. There are some cool guys over there but don't dare say anything negative about the Jets, they have a posse over there for such matters.
 
I may be a huge Pats fan, but there is NO DOUBT in my mind that Joe Namath was a great QB. The Jets upset over the Colts may have been the biggest upset in the history of professional football (Pats over Rams is in my opinion the second biggest), the Colts were something like 18 point favorites, 20 in Baltimore (My Dad won $300 betting on the Jets in both cities). I think Baltimore was 13-1, and just obliterated teams in the playoffs on the way to the Super Bowl. I believe prior to Brady, Namath was the youngest SB winning QB ever. Talent wise, he probably had the quickest release ever (people in the beginning of Marino's career said he had a Namath-like quick release), and basically just had to flick his wrist, and the ball went a mile. Watch the old highlites, it's amazing. He had a great arm.

I grew up in a Jets household in Queens NY, and didn't become a Pats fan until 1975 (I was 13). Prior to that, though WR Don Maynard was my idol, I was a huge Namath fan. I was lucky enough in 1972,to go to Jets training camp and meet a lot of the Jets players. My Mom and I waited for Namath by his Rolls Royce (yes he drove his own Rolls Royce), and when he came to his car, I had my football with me (a kids football), and said, "Do you think you can throw me a pass ?", he replied, "Do you think you can catch it ?". After probably throwing 200 passes during practice with a professional ball, he winged my football way over my head after telling me to do a down and in pattern. He tells me to do it again, and the next pass hits me right between the 1 and 3 of my Maynard jersey, I couldn't have dropped it if I wanted to, perfect pass.

Of course to this day, My Mom who was madly in love with Namath, tells the story like this, "Of course Scott drops the first pass", hell I always joked Kareem Abdul Jabbar couldn't have caught that first pass. Besides being a great QB, he was a very nice person. After throwing passes all day, he's nice enough to throw passes to some snot nosed kid. I'm sure most of you won't believe this story, but as long as my mom is still alive, I have a witness, lol. Though she will never say Namath overthrew that first pass, lol.
 
scott99 said:
I may be a huge Pats fan, but there is NO DOUBT in my mind that Joe Namath was a great QB. The Jets upset over the Colts may have been the biggest upset in the history of professional football (Pats over Rams is in my opinion the second biggest), the Colts were something like 18 point favorites, 20 in Baltimore (My Dad won $300 betting on the Jets in both cities). I think Baltimore was 13-1, and just obliterated teams in the playoffs on the way to the Super Bowl. I believe prior to Brady, Namath was the youngest SB winning QB ever. Talent wise, he probably had the quickest release ever (people in the beginning of Marino's career said he had a Namath-like quick release), and basically just had to flick his wrist, and the ball went a mile. Watch the old highlites, it's amazing. He had a great arm.

I grew up in a Jets household in Queens NY, and didn't become a Pats fan until 1975 (I was 13). Prior to that, though WR Don Maynard was my idol, I was a huge Namath fan. I was lucky enough in 1972,to go to Jets training camp and meet a lot of the Jets players. My Mom and I waited for Namath by his Rolls Royce (yes he drove his own Rolls Royce), and when he came to his car, I had my football with me (a kids football), and said, "Do you think you can throw me a pass ?", he replied, "Do you think you can catch it ?". After probably throwing 200 passes during practice with a professional ball, he winged my football way over my head after telling me to do a down and in pattern. He tells me to do it again, and the next pass hits me right between the 1 and 3 of my Maynard jersey, I couldn't have dropped it if I wanted to, perfect pass.

Of course to this day, My Mom who was madly in love with Namath, tells the story like this, "Of course Scott drops the first pass", hell I always joked Kareem Abdul Jabbar couldn't have caught that first pass. Besides being a great QB, he was a very nice person. After throwing passes all day, he's nice enough to throw passes to some snot nosed kid. I'm sure most of you won't believe this story, but as long as my mom is still alive, I have a witness, lol. Though she will never say Namath overthrew that first pass, lol.
Damn dude, you're old.
 
Alk said:
Damn dude, you're old.

Yup.....I was 13 when I became a Pats fan, I was 39 when they finally won it all. Old as dirt.
 
I'm Ron Borges? said:
I know. It would be like barely beating the Bills at home on opening day. The Patriots looked so good, they should be a lock to win every game this year with Tom Brady getting planted into the ground on every other play. After that performance, we have reason to look beyond the Jets on the road. Great point.
Ron, are you ever nice to ANYBODY?
Just asking. Seriously, you're pretty mean to just about everyone.
It's a drag, to be honest.
 
I'm Ron Borges? said:
I know. It would be like barely beating the Bills at home on opening day. The Patriots looked so good, they should be a lock to win every game this year with Tom Brady getting planted into the ground on every other play. After that performance, we have reason to look beyond the Jets on the road. Great point.

This is such bang-on analysis, I almost believe you *are* Wrongo himself. Answer these questions honestly, and we'll see.

1. Have you taken a swing at a cripple in the past 16 months?

2. Do you spew vile innuendo and libel over the airwaves and internet about Bill Belichick hoping that some of it will stick and that he will be "exposed" for the loser he really is, even after his team's three recent superbowl wins?

3. Are you a lazy reporter who regularly writes puff pieces for players on behalf of agents (sometimes these agents are also your own)?

4. Did you publicly castigate BB for a) drafting Seymour over David Terrell and Kenyatta Walker; b) trading Drew Bledsoe; c) cutting Lawyer Milloy. Have you never backed down from any of these columns/remarks?

5. Do you hate Belichick because he is at the peak of his profession, respected and admired by his peers and by all of the media (except a few lazy, lying, cripple-punching pukes like yourself), while you are universally thought of as a joke, a lightweight, a liitle p*ick with some unknown and delusional agenda?

6. Are you a Will McDonough wannabe? A little guy who would love to get the inside story, but can't because you are both a terrible journalist and a grade A as*hole (remember when Al Davis hung up on you when you tried to weasel into Will Mc's rolodex?)

7. Do you still believe you will be working in this town when BB leaves the Patriots Ronnie?

8. And lastly, just to sum you up, Ron Borges, if that is your real name, do you remember when you wrote a story taking shots at BB the day after his father passed away?

If you answered 'yes' to every question here, then yes, you are Ron Borges, the reason I no longer read the globe, and the "writer" I point to when when I'm asked for examples of shoddy, amateurish, and, lets not forget, frequently unsourced and often flat out incorrect reporting.

If not, then you are nevertheless a contrarian blowhard who likes the sound of his own chirping. I dare you, no I beg you, not to post again until you can find one positive thing to write about the three time SB champ patriots. Until then, here's an idea: hows about you STFU? Sound good?
 
CrazyDave said:
Ron, are you ever nice to ANYBODY?
Just asking. Seriously, you're pretty mean to just about everyone.
It's a drag, to be honest.

'I'm Ron Borges?' is only here to be negative. He is not a realistic Pats Fan who spouts rational points of view as he pretends to do. No he has an anti-Pats agenda much like his nom de plume.

I don't find him mean just redundant and petulant.
 
5 Rings for Brady!! said:
This guy just creeps me out.......I mean, he is being WAY too nice! I just feel like if I go over to that site, I will be surrounded by a bunch of smiling, friendly Jets Fans who will try to trick me into drinking slime-green Kool-aid.

I'd feel more comfortable if he just acted like the idiots from Miami.


Didn't mean to throw you off your game. Would it help if I told you Tom Brady wears a manbag and the Pats Dynasty is over??
 
Smizzy is trying a new approach: Be freindly and inviting. Make me gag.
 
Garbanza said:
Smizzy is trying a new approach: Be freindly and inviting. Make me gag.
Until they get there, then they get blasted by the Florida Posse.
 
Hey Garb, who in the hell is that in your avatar?
 
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