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Jacoby Brissett Appreciation Station

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Brisset has a long way to go if he wants to be a starting qb. But you cannot deny that he did well, especially considering that he got very limited snaps through training camp and practice.

He missed some throws andheld the ball too long, but he also showed poise and most importantly did not turn the ball over.
 
I suppose we can forgive Bill for wasting his third draft pick on the guy.
 
Agree with the pump-the-breakers. That always seems a little Debbie-Downerish after a great night like last night, and he absolutely showed poise and moxie in a tough situation. But the "yep, he's Brady's successor" posts seem more than a little premature.
 
While I think JB deserves praise for stepping up in a difficult situation this early on, I don't see what a lot of you guys seem to see in him.

He might become a really good QB, but last night didn't provide any real evidence of that in my opinion. Coaching, defense, OL+running game won that game. JB obviously did his part, but he wasn't asked to do a lot.

He can move. no doubt, and he has a strong arm, but I think it was also clear that precision and touch on his passes are not that great. These things will surely get better with time, but his strength is clearly is ability to run. And maybe that is where I'm a bit biased, since I prefer pocket passers. Which again might be why I a lot higher on Jimmy than JB.


Maybe I'm missing something?

I did not expect "precision" from this kid after a few months on the team and getting minimal time to build continuity with his receivers. But what we did get to see was his composer and his ability to make plays when things break down.

He had a couple of days to prepare, went out on a relatively big stage and played a solid game. I don't know what his upside is yet but I'm sure we'll see a lot more after being in the system for a few years. We'll see, I guess, but I like the guy.

@zydecochris posted an interesting post in which he states that he has been watching Jacoby since High School and that the way he plays QB has continued to improve year after year.

Football Outsiders' take on Garoppolo and Brissett
 
Great game for the kid... watched the game with my 25-year-old son... he said at one point, "Jacoby's younger than I am..." ...paused... and then said, "And so's Jimmy." LOL Man, I feel old.

Final review... when dining at Patriot Place...




...you can't go wrong with the Brisket.
 
You are being biased. You make it sound like Brissett is the second coming of Turner Gill and hes not.

You can be a pocket passer and have excellent mobility. Look at John Elway, Russell Wilson, etc.

As you say Brissett has the physical tools and we'll see if he develops but based on his ability to manage the game, to me he has a great chance of being a decent Qb in this league.

Again, JB did as well as anybody could expect. You act as if I'm saying he was horrible. I'm not. All I'm saying is, that when people start calling him special based on last nights performance, I must have missed something.

And sure you can be both a good passer and a good runner. I just think JB showed a lot more promise as a runner last night than he did as a passer. He'll get better, no doubt. He's a rookie. I'm not blind to that fact, I'm just not seeing the same potential as others seems to do. And again, I might be wrong...
 
One thing I've noticed when Jimmy was in, and it was reinforced even more last night with Jacoby, was the belief. This team believes in the process, they believe in each other, and they believe in themselves. Jacoby came out on a short week against a good defense in prime time and didn't look rattled. Always kept his head in the right place. You can have the 40 times, I'll take intangibles.
 
Again, JB did as well as anybody could expect. You act as if I'm saying he was horrible. I'm not. All I'm saying is, that when people start calling him special based on last nights performance, I must have missed something.

And sure you can be both a good passer and a good runner. I just think JB showed a lot more promise as a runner last night than he did as a passer. He'll get better, no doubt. He's a rookie. I'm not blind to that fact, I'm just not seeing the same potential as others seems to do. And again, I might be wrong...
I think what you missed is how far Brisset has come in such a short time. He came from a simplistic offense in college and looked pretty bad at the beginning of TC. His improvement has been dramatic, and his intangibles are off the charts. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
 
While I think JB deserves praise for stepping up in a difficult situation this early on, I don't see what a lot of you guys seem to see in him.

He might become a really good QB, but last night didn't provide any real evidence of that in my opinion. Coaching, defense, OL+running game won that game. JB obviously did his part, but he wasn't asked to do a lot.

He can move. no doubt, and he has a strong arm, but I think it was also clear that precision and touch on his passes are not that great. These things will surely get better with time, but his strength is clearly is ability to run. And maybe that is where I'm a bit biased, since I prefer pocket passers. Which again might be why I a lot higher on Jimmy than JB.


Maybe I'm missing something?
I think it's too early to judge. Garoppolo always had a quick release, which I don't see in JB. But IIRC Garoppolo also lacked an NFL pocket sense and was quick to tuck and run -- it took at least a year for him to calm down in the pocket. Now he's at ease, reading the defense, knowing the option routes, audibling to good plays, all of that. So MUCH has to pass through their minds in a few seconds. We sometimes think we know how a QB will perform on other teams, but I believe with this team, running an offense built around Brady, it's very, very difficult for a rookie, which is why Bill never (rarely?) puts a rookie in the position of being the next man up to Brady.

So we've never seen someone as raw as JB having to win a football game with his arm and to Josh's credit, we didn't really see that last night. JB has a long way to go and we don't know what he'll be like, but that was true of Garoppolo in his rookie year as well. Perhaps even more so.

What we did see was an element of calm, a willingness to stay within the game plan, to do his job and not try to be someone he isn't. That means he has some elements predictive of future success. Already, by this time, it seemed that Mallet did not have those elements. And others that have passed through here as well. We'll just have to see if JB can develop the rapid thinking, the mastery of the game plan, the reading of defenses, and the accuracy that he'll need. But there's no reason to think he won't. He appears to have the mental and physical talents, the Bradyesque poise and the willingness to work hard. That's one heluva good start.
 
While I think JB deserves praise for stepping up in a difficult situation this early on, I don't see what a lot of you guys seem to see in him.

He might become a really good QB, but last night didn't provide any real evidence of that in my opinion. Coaching, defense, OL+running game won that game. JB obviously did his part, but he wasn't asked to do a lot.

He can move. no doubt, and he has a strong arm, but I think it was also clear that precision and touch on his passes are not that great. These things will surely get better with time, but his strength is clearly is ability to run. And maybe that is where I'm a bit biased, since I prefer pocket passers. Which again might be why I a lot higher on Jimmy than JB.


Maybe I'm missing something?

JB as a rookie QB handles pressure extremely well. This is not sth you can coach.
 
JB as a rookie QB handles pressure extremely well. This is not sth you can coach.

- He only had 19 pass attempts (completing 11) mostly manageable throws
- He enjoyed good protection
- He often had good field position thanks to special teams
- The pats were in the lead all game, so he was never trailing

He played a mistake free game, and kudos for that. He definitely has some potential. I'm not denying that. But can you really say from last nights game that his ability to handle pressure is something special?
 
Again, JB did as well as anybody could expect. You act as if I'm saying he was horrible. I'm not. All I'm saying is, that when people start calling him special based on last nights performance, I must have missed something.

When you say, "I don't know what people see in him", what do expect people to think? If you left that out, I would think something different.

And sure you can be both a good passer and a good runner. I just think JB showed a lot more promise as a runner last night than he did as a passer. He'll get better, no doubt. He's a rookie. I'm not blind to that fact, I'm just not seeing the same potential as others seems to do. And again, I might be wrong...

More promise as a runner? Like a running back?
 
I said I didn't what other People saw, not that I didn't see anything.

No, as a running qb
 
Brissett came in on a short week, as a rookie and executed the game plan. He showed poise and confidence. He played as well as I could have hoped for.

Anyone who expected more from him is stupid. No one in their right minds believed he'd light the world on fire (though the stats would have been nicely inflated if he managed to hit Hogan on that deep pass), but he did what he was supposed to.

There is reason to feel good about Jacoby after this game. Hopefully he heads back to the bench with a nice game under his belt to help his confidence, learns underneath Brady & JG and he'll continue to grow as a player. I'm optimistic about him.
 
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Brisset has a long way to go if he wants to be a starting qb. But you cannot deny that he did well, especially considering that he got very limited snaps through training camp and practice.

He missed some throws andheld the ball too long, but he also showed poise and most importantly did not turn the ball over.

Most of his missed throws were away from the defender. I don't think those were errant passes, but him playing safe and smart and doing what the coaching staff wanted from him.
 
Yikes. "Very special"? After a single game? Sorry, but that's incorrect. He did a good job of taking what was there and not making any back breaking mistakes so the defense and the running game could seal it, but I didn't see anything that would indicate "very special". The Pats simplified the offense a lot for him and the Texans didn't do a whole lot on defense to make them pay for that. I'll give credit where credit is due that he played a mistake-free game, but he also wasn't asked to do a whole lot for good reason.


I noticed this guy's attitude and smarts in the preseason games. Sorry I have watched football for 60 years and just have a feeling about this guy due to character and smarts.
 
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