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Crash, welcome. I guess you must be tired just reading trash talk, cheating and whining threads at JI. I hope I can help fill your need to just talk football
Thanks I didn't know about all those kids you mentioned and it would be foolish of me to dismiss them given what our rookies and 2nd year guys have had to do this year.
I didn't know that DL was a strength of this draft. I was going under the assumption that the this draft was as thin in top quality players as its been in while. A thought that makes me even more happy that we have so many picks at the top of the draft.
I agree that Harris will stay, but Scott and Pace, who are now vastly under performing their contracts aren't going to suddenly get better. That also goes for Thomas, Ellis (vastly underrated), and Taylor. Lots of hole and lots of question, especially if you think Cro won't be back. What about Poole? Do they want him back?
I disagree on this one - Yes you are right that Sanchez has to continue to grow, but do you really think you will sign BOTH Holmes and Edwards. Lets say you sign one. Your WR corps is still basically 2 deep
Then there's the RB - LT has been better than I expected, but the LT you got the last half of the season is really who he is now, and like the others I mentioned he will only get worse as time goes on. Greene is solid, but still unproven as a bell cow RB, and McKnight has more questions than answers.
Of course finally we are seen a few holes in that great OL. An Achilles is going to be very hard for Woody to overcome at his age, and his productiveness was slowing down. Slauson has proven to be a mixed bag and Ducasse has been almost Gholstonesque in his first year.
No Crash your offense is a lot less settled than you think.....I think
Hey Ken.
I'm not sure that the Jets are in as dire straits as you suggest, Ken. With respect to the Dline, they have:
Pouha (who's 30 but doesn't have the wear and tear), Devito (the blue collar lunch pail guy) and Ellis, who probably has at least one more year left - They'll probably give him a deal at a year or two at $2 - 3 million/yr. He's still been solid - hardly spectacular, but can certainly hold the POA and somehow, always plays his best games against the Pats. If nothing else, its good to have a long term guy like that on your team who knows what its like to hate your rival.
Then, you have a whole slew of young guys. They were very big on Pitoitua (sp?) before the season - he put on weight and is just a mountain man at End. His achillies injury ended his season before it began, but he'll be back to compete. And then they have young guys who will have time to develop in Gilbert, Dixon and Taveseau. Of those guys, Dixon seems to be the one that has the best chance to develop into a contributor.
Thanks I didn't know about all those kids you mentioned and it would be foolish of me to dismiss them given what our rookies and 2nd year guys have had to do this year.
Considering the upcoming draft and how potentially stocked it is with guys who can make the conversion to 3-4 DE, its certainly an option to go that way. They will almost certainly put their attention to the defensive side of the ball in the draft. I'm not convinced that Cro will be here next year, which is OK - he's been very hot and cold, and its not like he's the greatest team player and leader. Harris will be back, IMO, which basically leaves DE/OLB as big needs.
I didn't know that DL was a strength of this draft. I was going under the assumption that the this draft was as thin in top quality players as its been in while. A thought that makes me even more happy that we have so many picks at the top of the draft.
I agree that Harris will stay, but Scott and Pace, who are now vastly under performing their contracts aren't going to suddenly get better. That also goes for Thomas, Ellis (vastly underrated), and Taylor. Lots of hole and lots of question, especially if you think Cro won't be back. What about Poole? Do they want him back?
The Offense has no real needs, player-wise. All that is really needed is for Sanchez to grow. And he's making strides, but still has a way to go. But, I'm cautiously optimistic that he will continue to improve. He doesn't need to become Manning/Brady for the Jets to succeed in the long run, but he does need to start completing passes at over 60% clip and be able to challenge the defense down the field in addition to hitting his slants.
I disagree on this one - Yes you are right that Sanchez has to continue to grow, but do you really think you will sign BOTH Holmes and Edwards. Lets say you sign one. Your WR corps is still basically 2 deep
Then there's the RB - LT has been better than I expected, but the LT you got the last half of the season is really who he is now, and like the others I mentioned he will only get worse as time goes on. Greene is solid, but still unproven as a bell cow RB, and McKnight has more questions than answers.
Of course finally we are seen a few holes in that great OL. An Achilles is going to be very hard for Woody to overcome at his age, and his productiveness was slowing down. Slauson has proven to be a mixed bag and Ducasse has been almost Gholstonesque in his first year.
No Crash your offense is a lot less settled than you think.....I think
Pittsburgh let him go for a reason. They guy is a talent, not a team player. I agree, Edwards would be the better signing. But I'm surprised with your assessment on Cotch. He's been one of my favorite Jet players. His play after he pulled his groin in the Cleveland game would be right up there with Lynch's TD run as gutsiest play of the year.I don't know if they can keep both Holmes and Edwards and I'm not sure if its the biggest deal if they don't. I was very Pro-Holmes until somewhat recently, but I can't keep closing my eyes to Holmes' inconsistent play and Edwards' clutchness. But, one thing I noticed, the Jets move the ball quite well with only one of them in the game and if one of them leaves, it will allow the remaining guy to become the true #1 WR - with Cotch being the clear #2. Neither of Holmes/Edwards has really been able to get into a true rhythm and Cotch has had a disappointing season, probably on account of those other guys. The Jets might be better off with a solid but unspectacular #3 WR to complement either Holmes or edwards and Cotch.
No, not dismantled but with a lot of changes, and the loss of pure talent. You lips to god's ear on Sanchez.But, the Jets won't be dismantled. They may not be able to keep everyone, but the core will be in tact for quite a while with a QB who got them to the AFCG and at least the Divisional Round, who will only improve.