How will the Patriots get that third round pick?

[FredFromDartmouth]

I have to believe that BB does not want to enter the third round first thing on Sat. morning without a pick. He must be plotting and scheming to get a third. Maybe he will will trade down from 22 a number of picks to get it (maybe this was why he was showing off Tebow so Jax would be tempted to trade up from their second (with a third as trade bait?))

 

[TriplecHamp]

because having 4 picks in the first two rounds just isnt enough...

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

If a good trade comes along we'll make it; if not we'll live without it and pay the price for the bad trade. The fascination with this missing pick is out of control.

 

[20HindSight20]

I don't understand the obsession over the missing 3rd rounder. The Pats have 4 comp picks which they have to make and 12 picks overall. I would prefer that they trade up and increase the likelihood of drafting quality players that will substantially contribute to the team over trading back just so you don't miss out on a player who'd been passed up the first 2 rounds.

4 picks in the first 2 days or a trade up work for me

 

[upstater1]

If Graham and Kindle are gone, he trades down.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

If a good trade comes along we'll make it; if not we'll live without it and pay the price for the bad trade. The fascination with this missing pick is out of control.

I agree. Having a 3rd rounder would be nice. If we get good value in a trade then do it. But it almost feels like half the board will be pissed if we pick anyone at #22.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

I agree. Having a 3rd rounder would be nice. If we get good value in a trade then do it. But it almost feels like half the board will be pissed if we pick anyone at #22.

I am starting to believe that if we traded our #2 for anyone else's #3 there would be celebration around here. We have two extra #2s and yet people can't get over not having a #3 ?

 

[jmt57]

The way I see it, the Pats have their first round pick at 1.22, their second round pick at 2.44, their third round pick at 2.48, their fourth round pick at 2.53, their fifth round pick at 4.119, their sixth round pick at 6.190 and their seventh round pick at 6.205. After that they get first dibs on whatever undrafted free agents they desire with five picks in the seventh round.

It's not like the Pats or any other NFL team has ever gone a round without a draft pick. To me the Pats aren't missing a third; they just get to make that third selection earlier than anyone else other than Tampa Bay this year - as of this moment.

 

[bbell31]

If Graham and Kindle are gone, he trades down.

yup, completely agree. Unless, Anthony Davis still hasn't been selected.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

The Patriots are apparently very high on this years talent. They currently have no 3rd or 5th round pick. There will be 66 spots between the 53rd and 119th and 71 spots between the 119th and 190th. With all the ammo they have to move up or down (mostly down) and with a talented pool of prospects, I'm certain that they will make some moves in the middle rounds.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Allow me to explain this obsession with the third-round pick: It is not my obsession but the Patriots. Either BB or Pioli (don't remember which) has noted in the past that they hate having big gaps in the draft. They even hate missing a fifth. Why? Because it makes them less flexible and makes it harder to move around for the guy they want. It might be even more important this year when the drafts starts are round three on Saturday.

I predict that they will finagle a third this year in some fashion....

 

[jmt57]

The Patriots are apparently very high on this years talent. They currently have no 3rd or 5th round pick. There will be 66 spots between the 53rd and 119th and 71 spots between the 119th and 190th. With all the ammo they have to move up or down (mostly down) and with a talented pool of prospects, I'm certain that they will make some moves in the middle rounds.

While that is true, I still don't see the need to trade into the third round. From all I have read the consensus is that their are fifty or more players that are worthy of a first round pick this year. That make second round picks the best value; you're getting first round talent at a second round price. Granted it will all depend on who is available at each slot, but if all else is equal it seems to me a second round pick represents a much better value than a third round pick right now.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Screw trading down, I'm in favor of trading #44 and #47 for #21 to get Jared Odrick AND Brandon Graham. Defense set.

 

[upstater1]

I tend to agree with many that the sweet spot for WRs is the third round. Golden Tate and Demaryious Thomas will be gone by the time they pick in the second round, and the others probably don't deserve a second round grade. Third round you can close your eyes and throw a dart at a WR, and you'll hit a good one.

LaFell, Gilyard, Roberts, etc. in the third round.

It's the WR position that makes me think they need a 3rd, and otherwise I probably wouldn't feel this way.

 

[MaineMan]

Well, setting aside for a moment the questions of necessity and wisdom . . .

The Eagles might offer their #24 and their 5th for the #22. Some more horse trading for the #24 could net us a 3rd and another 2nd.

The Cards might offer their #26, #58 and #89 for our #22 and #53.

The Vikings could offer their #30, #93 and #199 for our #22.

The Bucs could offer their #42, #67 and #172 for our #22.

It all depends on who wants to jump whom.

We might yet also get something for Maroney or Thomas.

As to the inevitable question about how many of the approximately one gazillion resulting draft picks might realistically make the team . . .

First of all, you have to figure that some of those picks would eventually get traded into next year and traded to someone else to move us up for a guy we want. Also, it's not like we don't have a whole bunch of guys who could be upgraded.

 

[MaineMan]

I tend to agree with many that the sweet spot for WRs is the third round. Golden Tate and Demaryious Thomas will be gone by the time they pick in the second round, and the others probably don't deserve a second round grade. Third round you can close your eyes and throw a dart at a WR, and you'll hit a good one.

LaFell, Gilyard, Roberts, etc. in the third round.

It's the WR position that makes me think they need a 3rd, and otherwise I probably wouldn't feel this way.

Decker and Blair White probably go in the 3rd,too.

Joe Webb, Jeremy Williams, Emmanuel Sanders and Marcus Easley probably go in the 5th.


But then, it's not like there aren't a few guys we could pick up in the 6th or 7th who should easily knock Stanback off the roster, maybe even Aiken (in spite of his special teams abilities). Trindon Holliday might even be a FA (as KR/PR) - and at 5'5"/166 he'd probably only count as half a roster spot.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Allow me to explain this obsession with the third-round pick: It is not my obsession but the Patriots. Either BB or Pioli (don't remember which) has noted in the past that they hate having big gaps in the draft. They even hate missing a fifth. Why? Because it makes them less flexible and makes it harder to move around for the guy they want. It might be even more important this year when the drafts starts are round three on Saturday.

I predict that they will finagle a third this year in some fashion....

I understand and I too have heard of the Patriots preference to not have draft gaps. That's totally understandable. However, I just don't want it to be critical to their draft strategy.

If it's Thursday, they're on the clock, and a stud player they love is sitting there on the board, I truly hope they aren't worried about who's there on Saturday.

If they want to listen to teams and they get offered a great deal, I'm all for it. Again, I just hope their focus isn't "3rd round or bust."

 

[mgteich]

Belichick will indeed enter Saturday morning without a 3rd round pick. It is the 4th round that begins on Saturday morning.

As of now there will be a long Friday evening for the patriots in which we now have three picks in the mid-second round, one more than what is the norm for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. As is his usual practice, I expect Belichick to consider trading down and picking up an additional pick. For example, we might trade our 44 for 60, 92, and 156 (trading a 2nd for a 2nd, 3rd and 5th).

As far as Saturday, we have 8 picks, compared to the normal four.
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Full round-by-round order for 2010 NFL Draft
By National Football League

Following is the updated selection order for the 2010 NFL Draft, which includes the 32 compensatory draft choices awarded to 19 teams.

The first round will start on Thursday, April 22 at 7:30 p.m. ET, with the second and third rounds on Friday, April 23 at 6 p.m. ET, followed by rounds 4-7 on Saturday, April 24 at 10 a.m. ET.

I have to believe that BB does not want to enter the third round first thing on Sat. morning without a pick. .

 

[captain stone]

Well, setting aside for a moment the questions of necessity and wisdom . . .

The Eagles might offer their #24 and their 5th for the #22. Some more horse trading for the #24 could net us a 3rd and another 2nd.

The Cards might offer their #26, #58 and #89 for our #22 and #53.

The Vikings could offer their #30, #93 and #199 for our #22.

The Bucs could offer their #42, #67 and #172 for our #22.

It all depends on who wants to jump whom.

We might yet also get something for Maroney or Thomas.

As to the inevitable question about how many of the approximately one gazillion resulting draft picks might realistically make the team . . .

First of all, you have to figure that some of those picks would eventually get traded into next year and traded to someone else to move us up for a guy we want. Also, it's not like we don't have a whole bunch of guys who could be upgraded.

I completely agree, esp. with the bolded line.

We need a 3rd-rounder (+ a 5th); we MUST have a 3rd-rounder (+ a 5th). Trading down from 22, yet staying late in the 1st round, should net us the 3rd (remember 2002, when Bill swapped 1sts, plus his 3rd, with the Skins for Grahambo). A slight trade-down with one of our 2nds should net us the 5th.

This draft is too deep not to take advantage of it. We need fresh blood at multiple positions, and having several picks in the 2nd - 5th rounds is a great way to begin the transfusion.

 

[jmt57]

We need a 3rd-rounder (+ a 5th); we MUST have a 3rd-rounder (+ a 5th). Trading down from 22, yet staying late in the 1st round, should net us the 3rd (remember 2002, when Bill swapped 1sts, plus his 3rd, with the Skins for Grahambo). A slight trade-down with one of our 2nds should net us the 5th.

This draft is too deep not to take advantage of it. We need fresh blood at multiple positions, and having several picks in the 2nd - 5th rounds is a great way to begin the transfusion.

I'm still not following the logic of why the Pats must have a third (and a fifth.)

I don't see how one pick in each of rounds one through five is superior to what the Pats have right now.

1.22 = 1.22
2.44 = to 2.44; 2.44 > 2.whatever trading down nets
2.48 > 3.any third round pick
2.53 > 4.any fourth round pick
4.119 > 5.any fifth round pick

Yes there are two large gaps, but so what?
At that point the Pats will have already drafted what is the equivalent to those two missing picks.

Unless your concern is future salary cap implications or budget concerns, I just don't see the need to obtain a third round pick.