Horrendous late hit call on Allen (sideline)

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Bingo and BINGO.

**** Patd!ck Mahomeys, Tyreeks Hill & Travis Kielce to Hell; and that Right Soon…

I ****ing DESPISE ****ing gutless, dishonorable ****ing jumpy-punk QBs who ****ing disgrace the “safety” rules for QBs.

The league, if it had even one drop of dignity remaining, would issue a formal AND PUBLIC apology to the NEP & Myles Bryant in particular for that ****ing horrible, evil, effeminate and Dangerous call by that ****ing criminally ****ing incompetent zebra…

But chicks (& fantasy jerk-offs) dig the long ball, so I expect Nothing Whatsoever to come from this.

Wilson is much worse.

 

[aluminum seats]

Should be a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty to start slowing into a slide and then juking out of it. Only time I root for injuries is when I see those two pulling that bs.

Don’t see why it isn’t. It’s like calling a fair catch and trying to return the punt anyway

 

[Fubby]

The officiating fest continues! Pats could send the league clips on at least 5 helmet to helmets not called.

 

[signbabybrady]

The officiating fest continues! Pats could send the league clips on at least 5 helmet to helmets not called.

Tell me how that Harry play wasn't both PI and defenseless reciever. Call one of them and we might get a chance at an onsider.

 

[Koma]

The officiating fest continues! Pats could send the league clips on at least 5 helmet to helmets not called.

I can’t say that I watch every game every week, but having 2 receivers knocked out of the game and neither play be penalized has got to be very rare.

There was a game several years ago where Cam Newton was on the receiving end of multiple helmet to helmet hits and didn’t draw a RTP penalty, so it happens. That doesn’t make it acceptable/excusable, though.

 

[captain stone]

The ****ing disgraceful Indy ****ing Clots have a well-established history of helmet-to-helmet head-hunting, going back to the daze of their over-rated, despicable scumbag Bob Sanders. **** that entire ****ing organization to Hell.

 

[signbabybrady]

I guess, per the rules, the officials are supposed to make the call even when it's questionable. The onus is on the defender avoiding the contact.

The NFL's official rulebook, however, explains that the referees called unnecessary roughness because that's what they're supposed to do when in doubt. In the rulebook section about "forcibly contacting a runner when he is out of bounds," the rulebook states that "defensive players must make an effort to avoid contact. Players on defense are responsible for knowing when a runner has crossed the boundary line, except in doubtful cases where he might step on a boundary line and continue parallel with it."

An additional note on this rule states, "When in question about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactics, the covering official(s) should always call unnecessary roughness."

I'm still pissed about how soft a call this was on Allen then they can honestly just pick up the flags on Mac's. And this BS explanation certainly didn't get applied equally. What say you NFL? Or Hurley you think he remembers his own BS tweet on the subject?

 

[archstanton543]

I'm still pissed about how soft a call this was on Allen then they can honestly just pick up the flags on Mac's. And this BS explanation certainly didn't get applied equally. What say you NFL? Or Hurley you think he remembers his own BS tweet on the subject?

How is it BS? He's posted the rule that the refs used to justify their call with no personal commentary.

 

[signbabybrady]

How is it BS? He's posted the rule that the refs used to justify their call with no personal commentary.

Because I'm pissed.

 

[Brotherblues]

How is it BS? He's posted the rule that the refs used to justify their call with no personal commentary.

Still, the refs are full of it and the rule is BS. Especially when you look at how wildly different it can be called (Allen) or not (Mac).

 

[signbabybrady]

Right. He means that the refs are full of it and the rule is BS. Especially when you look at how wildly different it can be called (Allen) or not (Mac).

Precisely. Hurley gets caught in the wash. But he can repost and look into it further thanks.

 

[ivanvamp]

It was a different game, different situation, and different officiating crew. So it's hard to compare. But what's hard as a Pats fan to deal with is that these were just a couple of games apart, against the same opponent. The Allen play....he was in the air, still moving forward, reaching for the first down marker, when the Pats' defender (forget who) BARELY nudged him. Allen had not yet even established himself as being out of bounds, as he could have, even in that moment, lateraled the ball backward to a teammate and the play would have been still live. So the Pats' defender actually had the right to light him up at that moment. Not only didn't he do that, he barely touched him. 15 yard personal foul penalty.

Then Mac is clearly hit WELL out of bounds, and then dragged down. Maybe you can say the defender was trying to hold him up. It's too hard to judge intent there. Clearly he hit him, and the only reason he would have had to hold him up would be because he hit him in the first place. Not only is that penalty taken away after a flag had been thrown, the Pats, in frustration, are issued a 15 yard penalty themselves.

So it would have been for the New England offense, first down at the Buffalo 38 with 1:22 left (and a timeout remaining). Plenty of time to try for a touchdown or at least kick a field goal that would have given the Pats some momentum going into the half. Instead, that entire sequence pushed the Patriots back to their own 32.

So on a play where the Bills' defender committed a penalty, it was the Patriots who lost *30* yards of field position. I mean....what on earth?

Not to mention (yet here I go mentioning it) the ridiculous play in the fourth quarter when Mac is lit up after sliding, and David Andrews gets in the guy's face - not a single push or punch or shove delivered...just got in the guy's face to stand up for his QB who was given a total cheap shot - and the refs flag ANDREWS for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. The Pats scored anyway so maybe it doesn't matter, but come on.

 

[archstanton543]

It was a different game, different situation, and different officiating crew. So it's hard to compare. But what's hard as a Pats fan to deal with is that these were just a couple of games apart, against the same opponent. The Allen play....he was in the air, still moving forward, reaching for the first down marker, when the Pats' defender (forget who) BARELY nudged him. Allen had not yet even established himself as being out of bounds, as he could have, even in that moment, lateraled the ball backward to a teammate and the play would have been still live. So the Pats' defender actually had the right to light him up at that moment. Not only didn't he do that, he barely touched him. 15 yard personal foul penalty.

The problem is that the defender was out of bounds when he hit the QB.

 

[signbabybrady]

The problem is that the defender was out of bounds when he hit the QB.

Where was the defender yesterday?

 

[ivanvamp]

The problem is that the defender was out of bounds when he hit the QB.

But he barely grazed the QB. I mean, it was hardly even a touch. They let that kind of stuff go ALL THE TIME.

 

[archstanton543]

Where was the defender yesterday?

Look, I don't write or enforce the rules. Like BB would say, you'll have to ask the refs about why they called it like they did.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The irony on this one is that, by attempting to “mitigate the damage,” the defender actually turned it into the most dangerous play possible. He grabbed the back of Mac’s jersey in an attempt to prevent Mac from falling, but this could have resulted in a knee injury.

So now you have a defender who initiated the contact, made an effort to reverse the damage, and yet accidentally turned a late hit into a high risk play. But on top of all that, he did attempt to display sportsmanship, and usually when a defender attempts to undo the late hit like that by quickly wrapping up the player, the refs don’t throw a flag.

The rule should simply be based on whether the player was OOB and not a subjective call about intent. And it should be a 5 yard penalty and not 15 (a really dirty hit should be an ejection.) 15 yard penalties for procedural penalties are ruining the game.

 

[Midship]

It was a different game, different situation, and different officiating crew. So it's hard to compare. But what's hard as a Pats fan to deal with is that these were just a couple of games apart, against the same opponent. The Allen play....he was in the air, still moving forward, reaching for the first down marker, when the Pats' defender (forget who) BARELY nudged him. Allen had not yet even established himself as being out of bounds, as he could have, even in that moment, lateraled the ball backward to a teammate and the play would have been still live. So the Pats' defender actually had the right to light him up at that moment. Not only didn't he do that, he barely touched him. 15 yard personal foul penalty.

Then Mac is clearly hit WELL out of bounds, and then dragged down. Maybe you can say the defender was trying to hold him up. It's too hard to judge intent there. Clearly he hit him, and the only reason he would have had to hold him up would be because he hit him in the first place. Not only is that penalty taken away after a flag had been thrown, the Pats, in frustration, are issued a 15 yard penalty themselves.

So it would have been for the New England offense, first down at the Buffalo 38 with 1:22 left (and a timeout remaining). Plenty of time to try for a touchdown or at least kick a field goal that would have given the Pats some momentum going into the half. Instead, that entire sequence pushed the Patriots back to their own 32.

So on a play where the Bills' defender committed a penalty, it was the Patriots who lost *30* yards of field position. I mean....what on earth?

Not to mention (yet here I go mentioning it) the ridiculous play in the fourth quarter when Mac is lit up after sliding, and David Andrews gets in the guy's face - not a single push or punch or shove delivered...just got in the guy's face to stand up for his QB who was given a total cheap shot - and the refs flag ANDREWS for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. The Pats scored anyway so maybe it doesn't matter, but come on.

The league is rigged, it's really that simple. The more PC term is "game management".

 

[p8ryts]

It was a different game, different situation, and different officiating crew. So it's hard to compare. But what's hard as a Pats fan to deal with is that these were just a couple of games apart, against the same opponent. The Allen play....he was in the air, still moving forward, reaching for the first down marker, when the Pats' defender (forget who) BARELY nudged him. Allen had not yet even established himself as being out of bounds, as he could have, even in that moment, lateraled the ball backward to a teammate and the play would have been still live. So the Pats' defender actually had the right to light him up at that moment. Not only didn't he do that, he barely touched him. 15 yard personal foul penalty.

Then Mac is clearly hit WELL out of bounds, and then dragged down. Maybe you can say the defender was trying to hold him up. It's too hard to judge intent there. Clearly he hit him, and the only reason he would have had to hold him up would be because he hit him in the first place. Not only is that penalty taken away after a flag had been thrown, the Pats, in frustration, are issued a 15 yard penalty themselves.

So it would have been for the New England offense, first down at the Buffalo 38 with 1:22 left (and a timeout remaining). Plenty of time to try for a touchdown or at least kick a field goal that would have given the Pats some momentum going into the half. Instead, that entire sequence pushed the Patriots back to their own 32.

So on a play where the Bills' defender committed a penalty, it was the Patriots who lost *30* yards of field position. I mean....what on earth?

Not to mention (yet here I go mentioning it) the ridiculous play in the fourth quarter when Mac is lit up after sliding, and David Andrews gets in the guy's face - not a single push or punch or shove delivered...just got in the guy's face to stand up for his QB who was given a total cheap shot - and the refs flag ANDREWS for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. The Pats scored anyway so maybe it doesn't matter, but come on.

I know the reason we lost the game is the defense did not do their job. BUT, after they changed the out of bounds hit, I said the fix is in. The difference between the Allen and Jones call has already been discussed. This call was like the officials ignored what happened and said he didn't really mean it so it was okay. This upsets me more than the loss because it's a major indictment of the integrity of the game. AND, this stupid taunting emphasis. We don't want the players hurting another players feelings during the game. Next they will be monitoring and reading lips on coaches and players on the sideline and call penalties when they make an insensitive remark. This sport is turning into the wrestling game. Fake!!!

 

[Lavictoire]

It was a different game, different situation, and different officiating crew. So it's hard to compare. But what's hard as a Pats fan to deal with is that these were just a couple of games apart, against the same opponent. The Allen play....he was in the air, still moving forward, reaching for the first down marker, when the Pats' defender (forget who) BARELY nudged him. Allen had not yet even established himself as being out of bounds, as he could have, even in that moment, lateraled the ball backward to a teammate and the play would have been still live. So the Pats' defender actually had the right to light him up at that moment. Not only didn't he do that, he barely touched him. 15 yard personal foul penalty.

Then Mac is clearly hit WELL out of bounds, and then dragged down. Maybe you can say the defender was trying to hold him up. It's too hard to judge intent there. Clearly he hit him, and the only reason he would have had to hold him up would be because he hit him in the first place. Not only is that penalty taken away after a flag had been thrown, the Pats, in frustration, are issued a 15 yard penalty themselves.

So it would have been for the New England offense, first down at the Buffalo 38 with 1:22 left (and a timeout remaining). Plenty of time to try for a touchdown or at least kick a field goal that would have given the Pats some momentum going into the half. Instead, that entire sequence pushed the Patriots back to their own 32.

So on a play where the Bills' defender committed a penalty, it was the Patriots who lost *30* yards of field position. I mean....what on earth?

Not to mention (yet here I go mentioning it) the ridiculous play in the fourth quarter when Mac is lit up after sliding, and David Andrews gets in the guy's face - not a single push or punch or shove delivered...just got in the guy's face to stand up for his QB who was given a total cheap shot - and the refs flag ANDREWS for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. The Pats scored anyway so maybe it doesn't matter, but come on.

Its times like this I think the NFL uses the refs to play favorites. Nobody except us wants to see the Pats on top again.